The best way to fight organized criminality...

[Legendary Apophis]

He knows how things are with the increasing of assault weapons availability and all that stuff, no need for him to be told about that...
He's not politically correct and that's why I appreciate his theories as they are realistic and change from the usual "culture of the excuse"/"blame it all on the society".

[Lithium]

man I invite u to see the movie, its not the ordinary stuff. its free on u tube cuz many countries have banned it.
have a look

[[KMA]Avenger]

man I invite u to see the movie, its not the ordinary stuff. its free on u tube cuz many countries have banned it.
have a look

Is that the one that talks about plastic cities and super computers running everything?

I've seen the Zeitgeist films and i wouldn't touch them with a barge pole! they are full of half truths and outright BS.

[Lithium]

man I invite u to see the movie, its not the ordinary stuff. its free on u tube cuz many countries have banned it.
have a look

Is that the one that talks about plastic cities and super computers running everything?

I've seen the Zeitgeist films and i wouldn't touch them with a barge pole! they are full of half truths and outright BS.

I ve seen the long ver of the movie 2.5 hrs its starts with the issue of growing childs , education , economy system, and technology at the end. since u ar einterested in the criminality just check the first hour.

[[KMA]Avenger]

I watched it when it first came out and confess i cannot remember it, but by the time it was done i was disgusted at just how much globalism was in it and refuse to watch it.

If you REALLY want to fight crime (low level crime, meaning everyday criminality, not crimes of treason and fraud as committed by politicians and bankers) then you have to start with education and the reinstatement of morality within the education system. you also have to get Govt out of the education system. you also have to allow local authorities to deal with crimes within the community. Govt trying to fight crime on a national basis DOES NOT WORK as evidenced by the shear amount of criminality.
Drugs have to be decriminalised and Govt needs to also remove itself from the economy. the red tape agencies and bureaucratic taxed based system hell-bent on destroying small business also needs to shut down and allow true free enterprise to run the economy which will allow the creation of high paying jobs as in the past which will allow the young to once again find jobs that pay them what they are worth which in turns allows the young to save and buy properties with enough money to live an upper middle class life style.

What Jim fails to realise is you can't just create a system of rules and then enforce those rules with stiff punishment all in the name of tackling criminality without looking at why there are so many crimes being committed, such as burglary, thievery drug taking and so on. what are the causes of crimes and then move towards making things better so it doesn't pay to be a criminal because a straight life pays equally or more. that's how you fight crime!

If you want to tackle high profile crimes such as crooked politicians, corrupt police forces, bankers and so on...then go after the politicians and the Govt. simple as that!

[Lithium]

maybe y are confounding it with another one, Zeitgeist : Moving Forward is anti globalism and point to rebuild the society to its values and not grow up robots.


link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

[Z E R O]

While Zeitgeist may have a world government agenda.. I would hardly compare it in any way to the NWO's global takeover agenda. Just because someone wants to unite the world under common goals, does not mean those common goals are global enslavement and profits...

I have no qualms with the world coming together, I think each country (or perhaps even state) should have their own government, there should be something deeper tying us all together(Just not the **Filtered** UN). We're all bloody human, there's no god damn good reason we can't put antiquated and destructive things like religion and nationalism behind us and start all working together for the common good of mankind.

There is just so much more that could be accomplished if we stopped killing each other and started looking out for one another.

[[KMA]Avenger]

There is just so much more that could be accomplished if we stopped killing each other and started looking out for one another.

I 100% agree. what we need as a species are for people to start refusing to go off and fight wars, Govt to be put inside a box and kept there, for global and regional organisations such as the UN, the EU, the WHO, for all the global banks to be crushed, for people to look after their own countries and to have trade agreements. for all countries to outlaw the practice of usery (the charging of interest), money to be controlled by govt.

We can have a FANTASTIC future if we first take back our resources the resources of the planet belongs to the people and not to corporations. Tesla proved we could all have free electricity (so why we have excessive electricity bills i leave to the reader to decide), likewise, we should not be paying corporations for gas or other resources. the people should own the companies that are responsible for drilling and refining of which we the people pay the bills but not a single penny need be charged for profit making since the people own the companies and as long as the company breaks even everything is fine. use money paid to banks in bailouts and interest to go towards great public works and the rebuilding of all infrastructure with the goal to raise the whole world out of poverty and for all of us to help each other. there would be no stopping the human race such is the power of imagination coupled with ingenuity and entrepreneurship and truly free markets. the only thing that stands in the way is Govt and global corruption in places like the EU.

[Lithium]

The Zeitgeist Movement mentality is to fix our issues starting by the root of it not implant counter measurements. Their future view of world is to be based on the resources it offers rather then deplete the planet so some can live while the rest will starve to death.
We have the means we have the power we have the will but we are being educated to be dumbs , not to think differently not to be creative and spiritual. what we are then..... we are robots doing the same routine job for 40 years and live in lies.
everyday i see people in the market buying only the basics to survive, buying cheap food, and the days u could go in a restaurant for a dinner are gone, this dont happen to everyone however but we are a chain sooner or latter those who dont have nothing to lose anymore will knock your door.... guess what ....

why 80% of the planets is at poor standard??? why only US consumes around 50% of the total amount of energy produced by whole world why 4 billions ppl suffer the needs of clean water lets not talk about how many child's dies /day of famine .....

its our puppet government's owned by the banksters that use their tools like FMN , WB, USAID etc that makes the our gov's policies. Butchers ....... of god sheep ....and you ??? Do u want to be a sheep???? and whos this God ... a joke living among us ... a mean for control or the head conspirator .... its the human God the living joke to control you.....get the **Filtered** out of my world you God of riches , butchers and psycho-presidents/prime's/Kings and Queens.

i ve said no to it ...i buy with cash at local market, buy only when i ve the cash and avoidas much as i can banks.
my self like all you give that little contribution to the society by working but the system force all us to leave our $$ in banks so they can earn by just using it. and its them getting rich by using yr money, yr life.
have yr choice.

[Legendary Apophis]

Another thread turned into another NWO/conspiracy theory thread... *sigh*

[Lithium]

because its that that our generation is facing....be enslaved and give birth to slaves....what in 80's was sci-fi today is the actual life.
and btw NWO is not anymore a conspiracy , its been years US is yelling for it.

[Legendary Apophis]

These conspiracy theories date back to before the fall of Knights of Templar, there's nothing new with all this so called "satanist pagan imperialist cabal of secret society wealthy conspiring elites", it's been an efficient tool of fear mongering so far over the centuries...

[[KMA]Avenger]

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If you REALLY want to fight crime (low level crime, meaning everyday criminality, not crimes of treason and fraud as committed by politicians and bankers) then you have to start with education and the reinstatement of morality within the education system. you also have to get Govt out of the education system. you also have to allow local authorities to deal with crimes within the community. Govt trying to fight crime on a national basis DOES NOT WORK as evidenced by the shear amount of criminality.
Drugs have to be decriminalised and Govt needs to also remove itself from the economy. the red tape agencies and bureaucratic taxed based system hell-bent on destroying small business also needs to *be*shut down and allow true free enterprise to run the economy which will allow the creation of high paying jobs as in the past which will allow the young to once again find jobs that pay them what they are worth which in turns allows the young to save and buy properties with enough money to live an upper middle class life style.

What Jim fails to realise is you can't just create a system of rules and then enforce those rules with stiff punishment all in the name of tackling criminality without looking at why there are so many crimes being committed, such as burglary, thievery drug taking and so on. what are the causes of crimes and then move towards making things better so it doesn't pay to be a criminal because a straight life pays equally or more. that's how you fight crime!

If you want to tackle high profile crimes such as crooked politicians, corrupt police forces, bankers and so on...then go after the politicians and the Govt. simple as that!

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Forget the NWO stuff (no Jim, it's not a theory), i posted above and was interested to see what you had to say.

Simply steering this back on topic

[Juliette]

The NWO-concept was abused by people who are too cowardly to admit their own damned failure in life. An excuse, if you will, for everything that is wrong with this world; from joblessness to environmental clusterfraks.

NWO is the new Jews of the 1930's, witches of the 1500's; it is the same Medieval amygdala-thinking in the population which makes something that exists (in the case of NWO, a rather harmless movement for World Government; in the case of Jews, rather harmless rich upper class Jews and successful businessmen; in the case of witches, either feminist / beautiful or curious -to sciences- women) into something horrible (in the case of NWO, a monstrosity that eats our children and is birthed by Satan himself; in the case of Jews a Zionist World Government -hey?- and job-stealing inbreeders; and in the case of witches, Satan-worshipping crazy women who would devour man's virtue and soul). Ooh, scary. *shudders*

It really is nothing new. Anyone stupid enough to get stuck in that Dark Age thinking is not worth the light of day. What is next? Storming those you consider 'sinful' with pitchforks and fire? (Oh, right, Occupy already does that..) No wonder someone needs to intervene; the general population is increasingly under the spell of the Dark Ages (with every 'awakening' humanity dies a little).

No wonder Orwell included his 15 minutes of hate.




As for the topic on hand: identify (prove criminality), isolate (take property, possessions and ban all contact with outside world) and pacify (reeducate into citizen).

[Lithium]

criminality will be higher and higher if no proper education is given to people, no proper future life to live , the issue need to be fought in its roots while trying to isolate it. the problem of those called Elite is can we handle all this?????? does this mean they have to create a society where they dotn rule anymore .... yes and they wont do it .... when things will go wrong they ll just wait till we eat each-other.


do u remember Merlin movie... what he said to ppl : Forget about Morgana just ignore her and she ll disappear ..... can we...no ,...because they holds yr lifes....admit it we are already slaves.....
but theres hope ...remember 50 years ago ppl werent even discussing this stuff but now we more sensible all around the globe.