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Ripsaw wrote:I've used Vacation Mode once, to cover myself when I wouldn't be able to log into my acct over a weekend. I don't have the cash (real or ingame resources) to go on PPT whenever I want, and even on Critical Alert, I would have come back to find a realm that had been blasted into the stone age.

I will need to use 2-day vacations in the future for the same type of occasion.

I have to strongly disagree with this idea.

<self-edited for accuracy, see Wolf359's post below>


but if you dont have the reasorses to go on ppt then this wouldn't effect you atal, because it is only to stop the people who use ppt,ppt, vac,pptppt. this idea doesn't limit your ability to go on vc mode it would simply make it so that after a vacation you couldn't imediatly go on ppt
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im going to bump this cause its a good idea :-D
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People should not be penalised because they have managed to build up their account to the point where they can use in-game resources to do the 2 PPTs per week back to back - but I like the idea that there should be a mandatory break between PPTs and vacation - and actually force people to manage their account - if only for 24 hours!

The reason I suggested making the minimum vacation longer is because I do believe it is being abused, to a degree, if only being used for a couple of days, as opposed to actually going on vacation. I don't use vacation mode simply for the fact that I will lose UU if I do - and I would rather reduce my naq production to a minimum (by untraining miners and transferring UU to somebody else, if necessary) for a couple of days, and risk perhaps 1 or 2 attacks for naq, than lose any generated UU. But that's just me. :-D
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Wolf359 wrote:People should not be penalised because they have managed to build up their account to the point where they can use in-game resources to do the 2 PPTs per week back to back


im sorry, my intention was not to penialize people from being able to go back to back. and im sorry if i posted in such a way as to give anyone this idea.


let me be clear

this idea stops people from going on ppt immideatly after a vac mode so as to stop people from being able to continuesly be protected by using the ppt/ppt/vac/ppt/ppt/vac method
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To argue that vacation mode is not abused would be to ignore the facts. But everytime a loophole is closed there are things consequences that go with it.

Here is an example:

A person goes on PPT. They are planning to be around when the PPT runs out, so there is no intention of going on another PPT or into vacation mode. They receive a phone call and a close family member is on their death bed, which requires them to possibly be away from a computer for days or weeks. Because of this new update they not only have to deal with this RL situation they also are going to come back to a damaged account.

Vacation mode was created because Forum had the good sense to see RL is more important then this game.

The very nature of this game scales up at a very rapid rate. I look at accounts who were scary a few months ago and they are not anything like they used to be. You cannot turn the game off for 3 out of 7 days and keep up. The accounts doing this are the last dieing gasps of accounts that are dead, the owners just do not know it yet.
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I agree... during summer and busy school time... I either bank once a day... and get farmed enough... or I just chill out in PPT or vacation mode...

and sometimes... I might have a stressful week and then have a vacation... and that would be bad to worry over my account during my relaxation time...


also... some player while under mass attack ... go under PPt and vacation mode... it's a stategy that some player employ.. like all other statagies... it should be honored... so...

I think that I'm a little against this idea :-D
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yah but if you come off of vac mode, why do you need to immideatly go on ppt?

if you go on another vacation then fine atleast you cant always be protected and playing the game
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i would prefer to lose rank but in the long run get uu. if u get raided owell this is a game. y get pst.

but that ida about vacation mode then using ppt is a great ida to cheet. its not in the rules so ppl that do it is loop holing around the rules. i wouldnt bother cus i prefer to play a fair game then cheet myself up to a high rank legally. i never thot of that ida.

i dont c wats bad wit doing that as long as its not in the rules. cus its perfectly legal. its just a big loop hole in the game that sum1's gonna hav to patch up. so ppl can play an even more fairer game.
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amen
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well... you guys have a huge range of what's fair... :?


I believe that having vacation mode after PPT and then PPT again is not wrong...


Many good players have done that after a huge massing or the like... I won't want to cheat them out of that. It's a huge part of the game... not cheating... :x

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well then why not extend your vac mode?? you know two days is the min, not the max right?
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Mango wrote:something definately needs to be done to make sure people actually 'play' the game and not just ppt, ppt, vac, ppt, ppt, vac etc etc

yea that gets really gay when people do stuff like that.
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be nice now,


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no this threat wont die, i dont care if i have to bump it all the way to page 293 i want this to be noticed (mabey then itl get implemented)
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In light of some of the things that I see going on I would like to revive this thread.

I do not like the original concept because of the emergencies that can happen in real life that screw things up. But there clearly is a use of PPT's combined with vacation mode that is going beyond what the intent was for gameplay.

So could there be a maximum number of times you can use vacation mode per month, just like the one we have on PPT's now? If we did that I would suggest two times a month be the limit to the number of times you go on vacation. That gives room if some real life crisis comes up and you need to leave the game the second time for the month you can. But it prevents this stuff we see with four vacations taking place per month.

It is not a perfect solution to what clearly is a system being abused. But I believe it is a fair solution to those who need to use vacations, and it cuts down on the abuse even though it does not totally solve it :(
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