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Post by Forum » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:31 pm

game guide is found by clicking "help/rules" on the top navigation.
done for main/quantum. chaos/ascended soon.
please use this thread for all comments/errors/missing info/info you want removed, etc etc...
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Post by Chris M » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:16 pm

nice guide, well done ;)

You can only raid down to 2x your rank plus 10

thats near the bottom of the guide, is that correct?
i thought it was ten times your rank, not two...
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Post by Forum » Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:41 pm

thanks - mixed it up w/ quantum. reversed and fixed.
Chris M wrote:nice guide, well done ;)

You can only raid down to 2x your rank plus 10

thats near the bottom of the guide, is that correct?
i thought it was ten times your rank, not two...

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Post by Grey Wolf » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:10 am

Also, on that very same line mentioned and fixed above the line is a little vague as to whether you add the 10 before or after multiplication. Technically shouldn't it say something like "You can only raid down to 10x (your rank plus 10)? The rules for math say Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Adding, then Subtracting, so the way it reads now makes you think multiply your rank by 10 and then add 10 to that. Or perhaps it could read something like "You can only raid those whose ranks are greater than your rank + 10, x 10." Just somthing to let noobs know the correct way to raid. Guess that's a difficult one to put into correct, yet easily understood, terms.

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Post by agapooka » Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:07 pm

10(rank+10)

At least, the old help file expressed it in a way that I saw no need for disambiguation.
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Post by deleted » Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:24 pm

Agapooka wrote:10(rank+10)

At least, the old help file expressed it in a way that I saw no need for disambiguation.

"disambiguation" is that even a word???? kind of ambiguous spelling lol. Anyway I understood it because of your previous help folder, and the only people that might be confused are probably going to be noobies. Every old-hand at this will not have a problem understanding your intent. But I agree the correct mathematical equation is:

10(rank+10)=rank limit on raids

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Post by Verna » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:20 pm

(sqrt(2^spyLvl) x spies x %increase techs x %increse race x 10 ) + spies


"Covert Action: This is calculated by taking the square root of your spy level to the power of 2..."

I may just not understand English well enough, it's not my first language, but don't you end up with the same number you started with if you do that? (9's square would be 3, 3² you get 9?)
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Post by Phoenix of Skycon » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:22 pm

That's what I thought too, but doing the math I still can't get the right numbers. Can someone give us a clearly written out formula on this please?

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Post by Phoenix of Skycon » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:25 pm

I thought it might be 10 * (Agents+(Agents*Tech Upgrade*2^root spy level)) but that doesn't seem to be right.

Of course I'm not including race bonuses, but I'm asgard and not sure how that factors in for replicators and the ascended.

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Post by Hensenshi » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:10 pm

While I'm not sure, think the entire equation is under the radical, and not just your spy level. So it's more like:

square root(((Covert TechnologyUpgrade)(times race bonus if applicable)(covert agents))+ Covert agents)

But I haven't tried it yet. Can't seem to find my TI-83

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Post by Phoenix of Skycon » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:15 pm

The whole equation can't be under the radical because my results were too small as it is.

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Post by Forum » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:46 pm

( (sqrt(2^spyLvl) x spies x %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10

Verna wrote:
"Covert Action: This is calculated by taking the square root of your spy level to the power of 2..."

I may just not understand English well enough, it's not my first language, but don't you end up with the same number you started with if you do that? (9's square would be 3, 3² you get 9?)

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Post by Jean Gregoire Gabriel » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:07 pm

Forum wrote:( (sqrt(2^spyLvl) x spies x %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10

Verna wrote:
"Covert Action: This is calculated by taking the square root of your spy level to the power of 2..."

I may just not understand English well enough, it's not my first language, but don't you end up with the same number you started with if you do that? (9's square would be 3, 3² you get 9?)


2 to the power of half of spy levels, multiplied by technology upgrades, multiplied by no. of spies, multiplied by race benefit. Add no. of spies. Multiply all by 10.

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Post by SGBlackOps1 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:11 pm

Jean Gregoire Gabriel wrote:
Forum wrote:( (sqrt(2^spyLvl) x spies x %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10

Verna wrote:
"Covert Action: This is calculated by taking the square root of your spy level to the power of 2..."

I may just not understand English well enough, it's not my first language, but don't you end up with the same number you started with if you do that? (9's square would be 3, 3² you get 9?)


2 to the power of half of spy levels, multiplied by technology upgrades, multiplied by no. of spies, multiplied by race benefit. Add no. of spies. Multiply all by 10.

?


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simplest way I can think of expressing in words (even assuming I've read it correctly)


no its the square root of 2 to the power of your spylvl then times the amount of spies then by %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10

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Post by Jean Gregoire Gabriel » Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:18 pm

SGBlackOps1 wrote:
Jean Gregoire Gabriel wrote:
Forum wrote:( (sqrt(2^spyLvl) x spies x %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10

Verna wrote:
"Covert Action: This is calculated by taking the square root of your spy level to the power of 2..."

I may just not understand English well enough, it's not my first language, but don't you end up with the same number you started with if you do that? (9's square would be 3, 3² you get 9?)


2 to the power of half of spy levels, multiplied by technology upgrades, multiplied by no. of spies, multiplied by race benefit. Add no. of spies. Multiply all by 10.

?


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simplest way I can think of expressing in words (even assuming I've read it correctly)


no its the square root of 2 to the power of your spylvl then times the amount of spies then by %increase techs x %increse race ) + spies ) * 10


The y root of n to x is the same as n to x/y, is it not?

eg. square root of 2^4 is the same as 2^2, square root of 2^8 is the same as 2^4, cube root of 2^6 is the same as 2^2...

It has been some time so forgive me if I'm wrong, but going over these things in my head...


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