hmmm...not so crazy about new spy thingy

[KibaWolf]

Wolf359 don’t be a bastard.
Attacking people is no way to go about things.
Certainly not for a mod.
I do know and understand this and yes I have read all the posts related to this topic.
The point I was making earlier was that the admin could avoid all this horrible confusion and anger if he just told us beforehand.
This is a valid point as it happens every time.
If he warned people it would cut back a massive amount of emails he would have to answer and lower the amount of work on the forums.
After every update like this it causes weeks worth of confusion and would add massive amounts to his workload.
It would make it easier for people to post informed statements of their opinions and thoughts on the updates thus resulting in smoother and faster movement allowing easier organisation.

I did not specify my reasons for being against this update I know.
I will mention my main point now:
This update has ruined all hope for smaller alliances.
There I have said it.
This update has crushed most of the hopes and dreams of smaller alliances.
No longer can we see the flickering chance of glory in the future.
We are now forced further into the shadows where we face nothing but pain, disappointment and constant harassment from the top ranking alliances.

[Wolf359]

Wolf359 don’t be a bastard.
Attacking people is no way to go about things.
Certainly not for a mod.
I do know and understand this and yes I have read all the posts related to this topic.
The point I was making earlier was that the admin could avoid all this horrible confusion and anger if he just told us beforehand.
This is a valid point as it happens every time.
If he warned people it would cut back a massive amount of emails he would have to answer and lower the amount of work on the forums.
After every update like this it causes weeks worth of confusion and would add massive amounts to his workload.
It would make it easier for people to post informed statements of their opinions and thoughts on the updates thus resulting in smoother and faster movement allowing easier organisation.

I did not specify my reasons for being against this update I know.
I will mention my main point now:
This update has ruined all hope for smaller alliances.
There I have said it.
This update has crushed most of the hopes and dreams of smaller alliances.
No longer can we see the flickering chance of glory in the future.
We are now forced further into the shadows where we face nothing but pain, disappointment and constant harassment from the top ranking alliances.

Oh dear - calling a mod a bastard over a mod comment!! - consider yourself warned (at least).

If you thought that was an attack, you are sadly mistaken - it was a simple statement that Forum does not have to run things by the players before he makes changes. If anyone was making an attack - it was you - on the game creator!

But I'm not going to debate it - I am sick and tired of making the same points over and over again.

But, KibaWolf - if you have a problem with anything a mod says in the future, rather than calling him/her a bastard in a public forum - use the courteous method of contacting them via pm - you will find that we are much more receptive that way.

[EVIL_THOR_6_6_6]

to me it looks like a statement and it wasn't directly thrown at him, rather an indirect way to say the least but anyway my debate with the update has been stated, all it means is you will need a maths degree to play the game.
i liked the game b4 an to me this is just as bad as limiting the raiding to lower ranks an yes it would be nice to be able to go over forums ideas b4 they are implemented - it would save 2-3 weeks of emails building up.
(i just dont want the game to turn into somthing i dont like and end up resenting which would be a shame)
i will give the update a go but forum should take the poll into consideration

[KibaWolf]

I apoligize Wolf359.
It seems that I have been directing my anger of other things outside the game towards you.
Honestly though you were not very polite towards me to begin with.
My point still stands and you should not simply shrug it off.

Forum should inform us, thus removing the confusion and easing his personal workload.
Just a simple paragraph of text each time should really be all that’s needed and would save him weeks worth of extra worth.

[Wolf359]

Apology accepted - and if I was impoilte towards you I also apologise, it certainly was not intended.

Comments are never shrugged offf - but might I suggest to everyone that polite and objective criticsm is more often listened to than demands and comments such as 'this sucks'.

[DaDigi]

I dont like it at all.

I didnt loose any of my covert, but my covert rank went from 700-800 to nearly 1000.

[KibaWolf]

Yes the same thing happened to me.
I think that this attempt has made things in a way, too even.

[thunder]

No longer can we see the flickering chance of glory in the future.
We are now forced further into the shadows where we face nothing but pain, disappointment and constant harassment from the top ranking alliances.

how exactly is it now harder for smaller aliances, when the biggest alliances took the biggest hit??

[~not telling~]

thats what the biggest alliances relyed on. the sammaler ones rely on defence and attck. its something ive noticed being in a very strong alliance then a very weak one.

[RepliJake]

I understand the update, and am not bothered about the cosmetic affect, but that isn't all that happened, I now need to send MANY more spies to sab someone, which I don't like, by many I mean about 10 times as many

[KibaWolf]

yes now there is a problem with sabotage.
you need to now send many more covert units and now that your covert rank is based much higher on units, the loss of those units in a sabotage mission will cause you far more damage rank wise than it will your enemy.
Thus ruining the point of sabotage in the first place.

Back to my previous point, this severely damages the hopes of smaller alliances as now only those with enormous amounts of members stand a chance.
We have been weakened greatly.

[Wolf359]

I understand the update, and am not bothered about the cosmetic affect, but that isn't all that happened, I now need to send MANY more spies to sab someone, which I don't like, by many I mean about 10 times as many

That at least is true - I went to sab someone yesterday and went into preupdate mode of calculating the amount - I sent what wouldhave been more than enough to do the job - but they were all captured.

It's not too much of a pain in the backside though - once people get used to the new calculation it should be okay.

KibaWolf - when yuo say only alliances with lots of members stand a chance - stand a chance at what?

[SSG EnterTheLion]

personally I don't mind the drop in covert POWER, although I dislike the new covert calculations. for instance if ur on level 24 and you used to sab a level 20..now you'd have to send as many spies against a level 20 as you would have a level 22 in the past.

[Wolf359]

personally I don't mind the drop in covert POWER, although I dislike the new covert calculations. for instance if ur on level 24 and you used to sab a level 20..now you'd have to send as many spies against a level 20 as you would have a level 22 in the past.

I actually do not mind that so much as it is reducing the imprtance/effect of covert and will, hopefully, start to make attack more important/useful as a weapon.

[bryan]

covert is going to slow down again. it really is only important to put fear into people. people fear the unknown.


massing has been the most effective way of destroy people since the limits on sabbing. however, anti will have a higher purpose now, due to more spies.