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[JUAN]

wolf you see the total worst way things can go then go past that and thats where your at with your glorious image you told

time changes and things change. what happened to the trade of uu on the market?
that was on there for a very long time then all of a sudden it was removed, so from going into factualy past events your wrong

ppt can be good but whats the point if everyone is always on it pulling it out of the market ss only means it not there when you buy ss with resources

[Thufir_Hawat]

Really the players Juan wants to attack with lots of Naq out have it there because they are on PPT. No PPT they would probably be on to bank or reduce the possible amounts.

I think by raising the price or eliminating it there will just be a bigger advantage for those at the top. Now it is a way for active beginers to get a little ahead.

Problem with untraining miners now is that everytime you retrain them you get more lifers. So best to just train what you can manage.

[Tauriman77]

what i think: samller players need to buy a PPT but if u raise the prices, they wont be able to afford one. also if u make it so $10 is the only way then players that are too young to have a credit card or that cant afford it wont be able to get one. i think there should be something that makes it so that a PPT costs 25% of what u make while ur on PPT. that way u still make a 75% profit and the smaller players will be able to afford one. and the higher ranked players that have tons of UU will have to pay more. bassically the more UU u have the higher the PPT costs.

[Psi Kiya Trist]

a differant method, would be to change the price, based on UP similiarly to the merc upgrades. cause UP would only be able to be increased, and not decreased, the top players who have up's in the 20k's would have more expensive ppt's than the newbies with up's in the 1-7k range.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

[JUAN]

i actually like the idea of it taking a certain % of your income each turn while your on ppt

[darkness5723]

Juan that sounds like a pretty good idea.. but it would have to be around 10-15%.. any less would be pointless and too much more would make the PPT really not worth it.. unless you've got a 50mil+ army size..

[12agnar0k]

perosnally i couldnt give a stuff if ppt is removed or not, but if forumn wants to decrease ppt use or atleast make it fairer, he should do this..

Make it so that whilst on ppt your account has a reduced income off say 25-50% , (NO initial cost to buy it - this way everyone can buy one) and its fair to all. Maybe even a higher % , but that might be a little harsh.
ATM you cant be attacked or sabbed or raided, and you cant attack , raid , sabotage , or recon, also you have to pay for it, but even with more disadvantages than advantages the fact that you cant be attacked/raided/sabotaged makes it worthwhile,
now if you were too put a % of lost incoem in aswell this would make a ppt, one of those last minute options you'd only use after being massed or similar circumstances, because when you get to a certain level of growth it would be more cost effective to not use ppts cos they will take too much naq.
Too high of a % may make vac mode seem a better choice - lol,

Naturally, if you are getting the ppt buy paying for a 10$ ppt, a $20 ss or a 50$ USS , your ppt should not have any decrease in income, maybe even a boost in income , a nice way for forumn to get people to spend more $$ and make his pocket fatter,
Also on that note if you buy a SS with G+r points (which is a free cash ss) you should also have a 0% income loss,
Same with ascension , you get a free cash ss thus you should get 0% income loss on your ppt, if an income boost is put onto cash ppts, then maybe on these two aswell , but maybe not again to encourage people to make forumn richer. Which is always a good thing , allows us to have a good bug free fast server game

[12agnar0k]

Juan that sounds like a pretty good idea.. but it would have to be around 10-15%.. any less would be pointless and too much more would make the PPT really not worth it.. unless you've got a 50mil+ army size..

10-15% is not enough , say i earn 10 bil a day , over a ppt that makes it 20 bil , i loose a whopping !!! 2-3 bil , thats what a ppt costs ATM, and most avergae players earn 10 bil a day . !!!

putting it up too 25% would mean from 20 bil you'd loose 5 bil which is a pretty large chunck , and would discourage you from using a ppt unless you had too , and 50% would mean that you wouldnt buy it unless you werent gonan be online much, or had been massed/sabbed so you are vunerable.

Maybe if it took from between 25-50% based on many different bases, er luck, defense, u.p , income, attack, rank, e.t.c, it can be mostly based on luck , but if you have really high stats maybe your chance will be as such
(25-30%) -10%
(30-35%) -25%
(35-40%) - 25%
(40-45%) - 25%
(45-50%) - 15%
a person with low stats may get the following chances
(25-30%) -20%
(30-35%) -30%
(35-40%) - 20%
(40-45%) - 20%
(45-50%) - 10%
no stats
(25-30%) -30%
(30-35%) -25%
(35-40%) - 20%
(40-45%) - 20%
(45-50%) - 5%
ultra stats - i.e Juan
(25-30%) -5%
(30-35%) -20%
(35-40%) - 20%
(40-45%) - 25%
(45-50%) -30%

the cost of reducing stats to get a higher chance of getting a better % would probbly be too high to bother expecially seemign as theres a chance itll be all for nothing , so i dont recon being based on stats would have it abused very much , it does mean however that the people who have no stats and just ppt, cos they cant play will contniue to do so and at lower rates but meh , they cant attack / raid e.t.c which gives good growth so who cares. That and even 25% is still gonna be a big loss to them , stop going on ppt's everyone play like normal people

[JUAN]

Juan that sounds like a pretty good idea.. but it would have to be around 10-15%.. any less would be pointless and too much more would make the PPT really not worth it.. unless you've got a 50mil+ army size..

if the market ppt was to take a % of your income it would take that same percent from everyone in the game. if you have 50+ mil uu it would take a ton higher amount of naq but the same % as the smaller people. so having a larger army size would not make your ppt any cheaper than if you were a noob

[Saber]

Forum could put in a code that takes your miner/lifer count over a period of say a month then that amount can be based on what a ppt would cost for you that way someone selling their miners just to lower the cost will basically do nothing for you. This would make the cost equivilent for everyone playing the game.

[[ZerO]]

the market ss should not come with a ppt, its way to easy for the top people to buy now and everyone is on ppt.

if ppt is needed to be bought by the market i suggest there be a second kind of ppt to buy in the marke that would cost way more naq to get the ppt. as now its kind of not even 1 turns worth of naq for the top players, or 2 turns worth for the middle people.

and many of you out there want it as is bc you like it easy. well change it and make some challenge in the game instead of living on the almost free ppt twice a week for 4 days

Though i havent taken PPT in quite a while..I think I speak for alot of ppl when I say that it is easy for you to request something like this when you are not a real target of anyones...therefore you dont need ppt. Some people rely on the "well-timed" ppt in order to attain the things they need, and in one ppt they make around what you make in 3 or 4 turn ( on average). This is like the rich asking for a tax break...lmao..come back when you have nothing bro, then request this

[JUAN]

the market ss should not come with a ppt, its way to easy for the top people to buy now and everyone is on ppt.

if ppt is needed to be bought by the market i suggest there be a second kind of ppt to buy in the marke that would cost way more naq to get the ppt. as now its kind of not even 1 turns worth of naq for the top players, or 2 turns worth for the middle people.

and many of you out there want it as is bc you like it easy. well change it and make some challenge in the game instead of living on the almost free ppt twice a week for 4 days

Though i havent taken PPT in quite a while..I think I speak for alot of ppl when I say that it is easy for you to request something like this when you are not a real target of anyones...therefore you dont need ppt. Some people rely on the "well-timed" ppt in order to attain the things they need, and in one ppt they make around what you make in 3 or 4 turn ( on average). This is like the rich asking for a tax break...lmao..come back when you have nothing bro, then request this

actually the idea has changed to making it take a certain % of your income away while your on ppt, this will make ppt even cheaper for the weak and more expensive for the strong ie having tons of uu while under ppt.

therefore this would help the ones with less uu and hurt those with more uu in a sence of total cost, but the % cost would be equal
so if you look at it this way its a better one

[Radium]

Though i havent taken PPT in quite a while..I think I speak for alot of ppl when I say that it is easy for you to request something like this when you are not a real target of anyones...therefore you dont need ppt. Some people rely on the "well-timed" ppt in order to attain the things they need, and in one ppt they make around what you make in 3 or 4 turn ( on average). This is like the rich asking for a tax break...lmao..come back when you have nothing bro, then request this

It is a bit odd that the people pushing this idea are not at risk of being farmed.

[Stricken]

...howabout you make it cost more for more powerful players...do it by like how big the army size is or how many miners a player has


example:

Little Noob pays 500 mil for PPT cuz he only has 100k miners

Big Vetren havs 10mil miners he pays 50bil for PPT

not exactly those numbers but it would make it more fair for everyone


lol and Wolf you should be the "The neverending post poster"

[Reeb]

FORUM, what are you thinking? Why did you do this?