G&R

[Indigogazer]

Well i don't usaully post much, to tell truth i don't usaully read much of the forums either, so i dont know weather this has been discussed or not.

There is a member in my alliance who is looking to ascend and he posted his stats. Well to my disbelief not one of his stats were ranked in the top 1000. He is earning G&R points with these stats and will soon be able to ascend.

What a joke ascension has become.
It was for the Elite was it not?
Most don't care what happens in ascension now just ascend to get the good weapons in main and the extra % bonus. Some even ascend just to get the ascended name in main.

Now before all you high and mighty people slam me for saying this, i in no way am having a go at anyone just stating my opinion.

Forum has done a great job with all the servers and i have had many months of enjoyment out of this game.

[MGZ]

not one of his stats were ranked in the top 1000. He is earning G&R points with these stats and will soon be able to ascend.

What a joke ascension has become.
It was for the Elite was it not?

originally it was. however the ranks to get G&R points are based on percents. w/ so many people a percent becomes more. I think we really should make the system based on actual ranks, though. it probably won't happen though, otherwise only the ascended or the uber-powerful not-ascending will ever get the option.

[chunkysoup]

i think it should be percent based - otherwise it'll be too closed of a group, especially as "elite" players will just ascend 6 times and hold top ranks, so noone else gets g&r (look at first page in main rankings)

however - i think the percent needs to be constantly lowered, with all the inactive accounts in main, which damn near double every month or so, pretty soon, some of my farms that never EVER log in will be gettin g&r... thats just sad

[Angelus Errare]

also, just because a stat isn't in the top 1000, the average of the rank could be in the top 1000. the closer the person's stats are to eachother (rank wise), the higher their rank could be. such as if someone has an attack and defense of rank, about 1,000, a covert rank of 800, and a mothership rank of 500, they could be averaged to be in the 800's.

[Thufir_Hawat]

The best way to solve a problem like that is changing the way Rank is calculated.

Like by total resources like how Accession is figured.

We all know how easy it is to move to the lower ranks to farm etc... even though your true power is much greater.

[chunkysoup]

i think the ranks 3000 to 3300 are as powerful as top 30... granted there are 300 players to 30, but in that 300 range... essentially its where you end up if you have two ridiculous stats and two empty stats, usually a sick covert and a huge defense, but they're also the players that have the capacity to build up a pretty dang fine attack/ms in no time...

[goldenh]

probably more powerful, honestly. I can get in the top 100 with a defense of 10 billion and a SA of 5 billion... many people in the 3k range are at least double that.

[Thufir_Hawat]

May be as simple as adding the Attack and Defence together as one Stat, like Mothership and Covert is figured.

Then all the people with 20Bil+ Defence etc.. will be brought up to a level where they belong. Then less people with 4bil combined A/D will be getting the G&R...

Still not a true representation of Rank but a closer one.

[Lord Thanatos]

ascention is still for the elite. if you look, the first two pages on main are almost entirely living gods. it would be impossible for lesser races to ascend if they had to get to like the top 500.

[Shooting Star]

I think that the percentages are just fine, for the reasons outlined. It should be possible for someone to ascend without having to try to achieve an impossibly high rank that are taken up by all ascended beings. However, I think that the requirements for gaining G&R points should be a little steeper for those that are already ascended than for those that aren't. I think that would level the playing field a bit. Just my two cents' worth!

[chunkysoup]

i think it should be percent based - otherwise it'll be too closed of a group, especially as "elite" players will just ascend 6 times and hold top ranks, so noone else gets g&r (look at first page in main rankings)

however - i think the percent needs to be constantly lowered, with all the inactive accounts in main, which damn near double every month or so, pretty soon, some of my farms that never EVER log in will be gettin g&r... thats just sad

Quoting myself from May - and yep, some of my farms, all the have is covert, a little ms, and an attack - haven't logged in for several weeks, are a few hundred ranks away from G&R range... If an account that has been abandoned for several weeks is almost in range of ELITE secret server, its just ridiculous.

[_Rube_Dragon_]

i think the percent needs to be constantly lowered, with all the inactive accounts in main, which damn near double every month or so, pretty soon, some of my farms that never EVER log in will be gettin g&r... thats just sad

i completle agree there are way to many dead accounts! and i think a movemet form admin shoudkl start pming them and wate say a couple weeks then delete the ones that havent responded.

[Tok`ra]

I think it should be based on rank alone.

You can get top 1k w/o ascending easy.

1000-101 get 1G&R turn
100-50 get 2 a turn
50-11 get 3 a turn
10-2 get 4 a turn
1 gets 5 a turn

[Spoon]

The G&R range being the top 1000 is insane, the current %s wouldnt be so bad if it were just made that as soon as an account has ben inactive for say a week or two it is no longer counted towards the number of active accounts that determine the G&R range.

[The Dalek Empire]

Don't worry about it though, if these things really bother you then we can all go on a Descending spree to clear out all the inactive accounts on Ascension (or at least force them into Vacation mode, halving their bonus in Main).