Planetary Bonuses - are they worth it?

Are planetary bonuses worth the naq spent on them?

Yes
20
14%
No
51
36%
Depends on the planet type
63
44%
Don't know
9
6%
 
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profitteroles wrote:In a couple of weeks after these planets have been stolen, had a couple of bill spent on them then lost and repeated every few days by each new owner these planets are going to be a very strong and valuable assets to your realm, don’t forget these planets are only a day old.


Marvellous - but has little to do with the topic title and poll.
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08:00 LordOfGhouls Attack defended 15 0 0 1,092,000,000 172,800,000

As with all battles, this one has been recorded for the official history of your realm. You, of course, are the first to know the results as they are reported directly to you first. This is the official report of the battle:
The fleets of LordOfGhouls invaded the planet ******* in the realm of *****

LordOfGhouls sent:
300 Nano-AI Cruiser Squadran
****** planet ****** resisted the aggressors with:
400 planet ground based defence facilities.

In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!

The forces of LordOfGhouls rush in full force, and inflict 172,800,000 damage on ********


The artillery of ******* fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict devastating damage on LordOfGhouls's forces! So much damage, in fact, that while fleeing LordOfGhouls's fleets could not accurately judge the extent of the beating...
It was confirmed that The defences of the planet held up under attack!
0 defence facilities were destroyed, though, in the course of the battle.

All this and it only cost him 60 Million to repair his MS! These planets are not even good at damaging a MS they are simply a status symbol.
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Wolf359 wrote:
profitteroles wrote:In a couple of weeks after these planets have been stolen, had a couple of bill spent on them then lost and repeated every few days by each new owner these planets are going to be a very strong and valuable assets to your realm, don’t forget these planets are only a day old.


Marvellous - but has little to do with the topic title and poll.


Thank you but i cant see how my reply has "little to do with the topic title and poll"

The question is 'Are planetary bonuses worth the naq spent on them?'
and my answer was not yet but they will be. Its the same with anything. updates take time to settle.
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profitteroles wrote:
Wolf359 wrote:
profitteroles wrote:In a couple of weeks after these planets have been stolen, had a couple of bill spent on them then lost and repeated every few days by each new owner these planets are going to be a very strong and valuable assets to your realm, don’t forget these planets are only a day old.


Marvellous - but has little to do with the topic title and poll.


Thank you but i cant see how my reply has "little to do with the topic title and poll"

The question is 'Are planetary bonuses worth the naq spent on them?'
and my answer was not yet but they will be. Its the same with anything. updates take time to settle.


No... they wont be.

Highest UP so far is like 70k raw, whats the highest planet UP? like 300?

It has a long wait :-D

The boost given by planet's needs to be increased by about 10times.. then it might actually be worth investing into.
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profitteroles wrote:
Wolf359 wrote:
profitteroles wrote:In a couple of weeks after these planets have been stolen, had a couple of bill spent on them then lost and repeated every few days by each new owner these planets are going to be a very strong and valuable assets to your realm, don’t forget these planets are only a day old.


Marvellous - but has little to do with the topic title and poll.


Thank you but i cant see how my reply has "little to do with the topic title and poll"

The question is 'Are planetary bonuses worth the naq spent on them?'
and my answer was not yet but they will be. Its the same with anything. updates take time to settle.


No... they wont be.

Highest UP so far is like 70k raw, whats the highest planet UP? like 300?

It has a long wait :-D

The boost given by planet's needs to be increased by about 10times.. then it might actually be worth investing into.



LOL you go ahead and think that, you'll be the one left behind. dont really think you have much of an idea if you think that 300 UP is the highest the plannets are at the moment. They have been out what 1-2 days i know there are higher.
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4,083,391,665,000 Naquadah needed to get from 0-70k up
Spend 4 trillion naq on 10 unit production planets you will get hell of a lot more than 70k UP, especially if you can steal them after someone has put it up to 2,000 or 3,000 k for you
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profitteroles wrote:4,083,391,665,000 Naquadah needed to get from 0-70k up
Spend 4 trillion naq on 10 unit production planets you will get hell of a lot more than 70k UP, especially if you can steal them after someone has put it up to 2,000 or 3,000 k for you


Then someone steals it from you after you've got it up to 5000...

EDIT: And on another note UP that high is an extreme waste!!!! No matter how many units you have.

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean its the best way to go.
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and you have just proved my point no mater how big somones defence is there will always be someone to attack them therefore if player A builds a 1k UP on his planet player B steals it adds another 1k and so on and so on in 3 or 4 weeks there is gonna be planets with unit productions of well over 10k
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profitteroles wrote:4,083,391,665,000 Naquadah needed to get from 0-70k up
Spend 4 trillion naq on 10 unit production planets you will get hell of a lot more than 70k UP, especially if you can steal them after someone has put it up to 2,000 or 3,000 k for you


Then someone steals it from you after you've got it up to 5000...

EDIT: And on another note UP that high is an extreme waste!!!! No matter how many units you have.

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean its the best way to go.



So you dont think a 100k UP is worth it, or a good thing to have?
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A couple of things:

1. Income Planets: The biggest one I've seen so far is 2mill/day. I don't know where anyone is getting their numbers from. In addition, at this level, it costs a couple of mill/upgrade, which only increases daily income by about 4000 a pop. At that rate, you'd be lucky to see any return on it ever. I'm not quite sure how this compares to miners/lifers, but the point there is that you can always reliably sell miners for at least what you bought them for; there isn't any naq lost in the investment.

2. UP Planets: These seem fairly useful. But, crunching the numbers, I imagine you'll have to put at least 10bill into the defence, in order to have any chance of holding onto it. The biggest UP bonus I've heard about so far is 600/day - which at my level is just above half the UP I can get with 10bill. Overall, I'd much rather take the normal UP, because it's cheaper, and guaranteed.

3. They're not defendable: When fleets first came out, like many others I dropped 10bill+ on them, and for an unascended player, that doesn't net much power. However, once I started equiping my planets, it took about 5bill to get the defence on level with my fleet power. To get any reasonable defence, it would take 10bill+, and I know there are plenty of ppl out there (ascended or otherwise) that could easily beat that defence too. The simple fact is that it probably costs way more to defend than to steal, so putting any more investment to actually up the stats is never going to happen. For the same argument that the first generation of defences aren't good enough, neither are the second generation.

4. M/S's getting stripped if they lose: This flat out doesn't happen. From a 4bill defence someone had put on their planet, I attacked 5 times before I got it, and suffered a total of 400mill dmg. The cost ratio is just ridiculous.

5. Spying Planets: Yup, it's virtually impossible, and for me, that's a problem. I'm sure ppl with disagree, but of the 15 or so I've stolen so far, I probably only want 3. That's a sad story, but if I had been able to spy them, to see what they did, I wouldn't have taken them at all.
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mate,you can spy them ;)
just spy the account and in the report the planets are mentioned :D
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Yeah, lol - but it takes me (well within top 100 covert) 5 tries to get any information on a planet owned by a guy with lvl 20, 10k spies. I can see every single other stat, but no info on planet.

As I said, it's virtually impossible.
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Triple ]-[ wrote:
profitteroles wrote:4,083,391,665,000 Naquadah needed to get from 0-70k up
Spend 4 trillion naq on 10 unit production planets you will get hell of a lot more than 70k UP, especially if you can steal them after someone has put it up to 2,000 or 3,000 k for you


Then someone steals it from you after you've got it up to 5000...

EDIT: And on another note UP that high is an extreme waste!!!! No matter how many units you have.

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean its the best way to go.
lol regreting getting a 70k raw up now gala??? :lol:
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blackadder wrote:I almost want someone to have a go at mine just to check out how much damage it would do to a MS.
Defences 1.2 Billion at present still rising this is almost for fun now because I want to see what their response will be when they see their MS return in pieces. I will let forum know what happens when my trap is sprung. P.S my ingame name is nothing like my forum name....

I have more than one planet at this point in time, I will be like watching for the player to take the poison chalice. Do we not get an attack log for these attacks? I always enjoy the humour involved.

Maybe the income planets are useful after all purely as MS destroyers pick the wrong planet and wave bye bye to your MS weapons

:lol:


SAY u ingame name, i will destroy mu MS in u planets, u can handle 2 bill att right?
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If you see my other posting the planetary defences don't even scratch the MS my 1.2 Billion in defence made only 60 million in damage to 2 of my attackers hardly worth the investment!

I am too weak at present to put my in game name here yet just in case I offend...... Give it another few weeks
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