Who is the worst SL/Goauld?

[Lord Revan]

I was just standing a point, the post say "It took a few hundred to take Anubis's down..." now I point out that Anubis show up with more than just his supermothership, but rather a attack fleet to take him now they destoried not just his ship but his entire fleet.

[Cole]

Atm Tanith and Imhotep are winning

[Osi]

who voted Osiris

[Cole]

I noticed it was from 5-6 last voters

[Klorel]

I voted Camulus... he was obviously looked down upon by the other System Lords because he was sent with the Japanese girl and the senile old man to Earth. (Apologies to those who like Amaterasu and Yu)

Not to mention that he was getting his ass kicked the whole time by Baal

[-Ailm-]

SOKAR was the supreme system lord at one point, i slap whoever started this thread with a rubber glove!

-3rd

WRONG

Well depends on how you look at it. Ra was the only true Surpreme System Lord.
Sokar and Cronus were self declered and the others banished Sokar for doing it and for crimes.

After Ra died there was no surpreme system lord but Heru-Ur was the most feared and most powerful, Which makes sense, he was Ra's son and probably only faithfull and loyal family member how ever he was never declered surpreme system lord. Lord Yu was also a big part of the System Lord order, mostly because of how old and experience he was. He was also ready to die for things Ra wanted when he was alive.

If I go around and declere myself president without being powerful nor were I voted as one, what would I be?

WRONG

In episode Serpents Song Season 2

Teal'c clearly states that SOkar once ruled over ALL goa'uld until a co-ilition of all goa'uld rose up against him and banished him, even then he survived and had more advanced technology than every goa'uld to date, anubis does NOT count as he cannot be classes as a goa'uld as he is ascended ^_^ and no longer has an organic form ^_^

and it is the way of the goa'uld to declare themselves rulers of all, not to mention the fact that teal'c said it not sokar.

so i suggest you get your facts right

-3rd

[Kjarkur]

WRONG

In episode Serpents Song Season 2

Teal'c clearly states that SOkar once ruled over ALL goa'uld until a co-ilition of all goa'uld rose up against him and banished him, even then he survived and had more advanced technology than every goa'uld to date, anubis does NOT count as he cannot be classes as a goa'uld as he is ascended ^_^ and no longer has an organic form ^_^

and it is the way of the goa'uld to declare themselves rulers of all, not to mention the fact that teal'c said it not sokar.

so i suggest you get your facts right

-3rd

Ahh your right Sokar can also be spoken of as ex - SSL but he was not declered one like Ra. There is the difference, Ra was the greates of em all.

Please quote the episode or tell me what episode it is. Of course I'll have a look but I have my facts from the show and scripts and from the books etc.

Sokar was incredibly cruel and sadistic even by the standards of the Goa'uld, so eventually an alliance of other Goa'uld including Ra, Apophis, and Kronos banded together to overthrow him (these Goa'uld would form the modern incarnation of the System Lords that SG-1 confronted during the first several years of the series). Even in exile, Sokar remained the most powerful individual Goa'uld, although not as powerful as the combined might of the System Lords. However, he continued to expand his fleet, to the point where he had enough power to overthrow the System Lords and conquer the galaxy. Before Sokar could implement his plan, he was destroyed by the combined efforts of SG-1, the Tok'ra, and Apophis. While SG-1 and the Tok'ra destroyed Sokar in hopes of preventing the rise of a single all-powerful Goa'uld, they merely allowed Apophis to assume control of Sokar's fleet and implement his own plan for galactic domination.

That seams to have been before they used the System Lord order like we would put it today. Probably on times of the Unas.

Although Daniel Jackson describes Sokar as "the original Satan", in reality the mythological Sokar was a minor funeral god who wasn't particularly evil. In fact, Apophis/Apep, the ultimate evil in Egyptian mythology and the one who seeks the destruction of the world, is much closer to the character of Satan.

[-Ailm-]

read the message you just quoted it actually says serpent's song season 2

and quite frankly Ra was not the greatest, sokar has shown that he was technologically superior, just because the system lords apointed him ruler doesnt make him the greatest, Sokar ruled the goa'uld without any support, this shows greater power, in fact i dont recall an episode where a goa'uld/jaffa has actually called Ra the Supreme System Lord.


also please state where your quotes are from, why did you quote that bit of sokar from reality? lol, im talking abotu the show :S

-3rd

[Ra]

read the message you just quoted it actually says serpent's song season 2

and quite frankly Ra was not the greatest, sokar has shown that he was technologically superior, just because the system lords apointed him ruler doesnt make him the greatest, Sokar ruled the goa'uld without any support, this shows greater power, in fact i dont recall an episode where a goa'uld/jaffa has actually called Ra the Supreme System Lord.


also please state where your quotes are from, why did you quote that bit of sokar from reality? lol, im talking abotu the show :S

-3rd

he was called the SSL in the movie

[Apadizamek]

Although Daniel Jackson describes Sokar as "the original Satan", in reality the mythological Sokar was a minor funeral god who wasn't particularly evil. In fact, Apophis/Apep, the ultimate evil in Egyptian mythology and the one who seeks the destruction of the world, is much closer to the character of Satan.

actually, he was THE funeral god until osiris

[Osi]

no that was Anubis

[Apadizamek]

no that was Anubis

check in our fave book osi!

[Setesh]

Actually..Abydos was the funeral god..

[-Ailm-]

read the message you just quoted it actually says serpent's song season 2

and quite frankly Ra was not the greatest, sokar has shown that he was technologically superior, just because the system lords apointed him ruler doesnt make him the greatest, Sokar ruled the goa'uld without any support, this shows greater power, in fact i dont recall an episode where a goa'uld/jaffa has actually called Ra the Supreme System Lord.


also please state where your quotes are from, why did you quote that bit of sokar from reality? lol, im talking abotu the show :S

-3rd

he was called the SSL in the movie

he cant of been because in the movie there wernt system lords =/

-Neph

[Cole]

And Anubis was a jaffa prime