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its true that some would attack and hide...its also true that some people here dont have the luxury of controlling their time, why not put it this way, you cant go on vacation mode if you have just massed someone, lets say a certain number of attacks would prevent you from going to vacation mode...

this wil present some problems for some but will help those people who need to go at the moments notice to be aware of the the number of attacks they should do...

just a suggestion
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ONE major point...

Either way, vacation is being abused. And who judges if someone can go on vacation or not? Like (sorry Bill, taking you as an example) if Pianomutt attacks, but 6 hours after or so he hears that they will leave within 1 day. I can imagine that it would be necessary.
But what if shortly after that, an seek-and-hide player calls, and fakes the same situation? It is possible, since people are sending death threaths, it will also be easy enough to fake then such things for them.

And I guess they don't mind about that 'cannot attack for 2 days'.

I am quite neutral about the suggestion, but vacation will ALWAYS have a weak point.
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yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
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shuld not leave it out
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i would like to see an automatic on vac situation be in acted for ppl that havent logged in for say 3days.

there have been times i've gone away and havent set vac or ppt thinking i'd be back sooner than i end up being...or vac/ptt has ended before i get back to find i've been attacked and most weapons destroyed etc.

there should be some protection for unforseen circumstances.

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That is actually a great idea, because it would cut off all the farms and force players to only attack people that are playing the game.
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how about, your account goes into vac mode automatically ONLY if you have set it to do so,

(after creating the idea about not being able to go on vac after attacking x amount of times in x amount of days, to stop mass and hide'rs)

like, future vac mode, which will monitor your activity on your account and if you havent logged on for 3 days, (or however long you set it for) it will auto go in vac mode,

(but of course if everyone did this it would keep people from being farmed who have 400kUU and havent been on in 3 months :)

could use some more ideas.
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my friend is away at boarding school and they dont always get access to the internet...sometimes they might not be able to log on for up to a week so an automatic vac would be great for them. :D
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vac mode could be set for a limited min and max time, say 2days min as it is now and 7days max.

and if it didnt come in till three days after last log in, ppl wouldn't be able to go into hiding.

there are alot events that happen with out pre warning so setting vac mode yourself is not always possible.


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cleo_catra wrote:vac mode could be set for a limited min and max time, say 2days min as it is now and 7days max.


And what if someone has to go more than a week? :?
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not being able to go on vacation mode within two days of attacking someone evidently doesn't include sabbing someone.
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cleo_catra wrote:vac mode could be set for a limited min and max time, say 2days min as it is now and 7days max.

and if it didnt come in till three days after last log in, ppl wouldn't be able to go into hiding.

there are alot events that happen with out pre warning so setting vac mode yourself is not always possible.


c.c


:? I'd set it to two, preferable 3 months. Sometimes (I am 19, so don't be surprised by the following) I got with my parents and sis 6-8 weeks on holiday. With your 7 days, I'd a goner once I came back from holiday :?
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[TL] Renegadze zegt:
yeah definately makes more sense you hitting
and I have no DMU as you keep robbing it
MERC 1 zegt:
shuld not leave it out
any way you cant prove nothing
[TL] Michael/BenjaminMS zegt:
meh Rene, just find a few 0-def farms with 300+ tril DMU out...
MERC 1 zegt:
cool you two take it then i will hit you
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Didn't this come up before?

My idea (I know I've seen similar in another thread, but not in this one...), set up an "emergency" vac mode, separate from the regular vacation. To discourage people from abusing it, set it up so that:

1. MINIMUM duration is 5 days (not 2). Unlimited maximum duration.
-The long delay would be appropriate for true emergencies as someone tries to put their life back in order.

2. You are not able to take any offensive action (Sab, Spy, Attack) within 48 hours of returning from an "emergency" vac mode.
-Yes, your account is 'down' for a solid week, but if it really was an emergency, you shouldn't mind.

I think that this balances fairness to those with RL internet issues (Armed Forces) with avoiding the "mass-vac-mass-vac-mass..." issue.
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ripsaw wrote:1. MINIMUM duration is 5 days (not 2). Unlimited maximum duration.


2-3 days is good for me, 5 days is a tad too long. PPT is 2 days, so 2-3 days minimum is perfect. I agree with unlimited maximum duration, I'm about to go vac mode in a few days due to multiple things that's going to happen in the next few months (Volunteering, family coming over from overseas, going overseas for a month), dealing with the busiest time of the year for me (December) and following that, a probable relocation to a rural area in another country. I'd delete my account with a heavy heart, but I'd do it if I have to. However, some of my friends in the game wishes me to be back someday and I'd love to be able to come back and pick up where I left off once I'm not travelling so much.

What I wish to see is an exception for the 'No PPT for 1 day before going on vacation' rule for people going on vac mode for more than a month. Mainly because I'm on PPT now so that I can untrain troops peacefully without getting raided right in the middle of it and selling weapons and taking out naq without getting attacked, because I'm about to leave and giving all my transferrable resources to other people who can benefit from it. Wasn't aware about the PPT->Vac thing. You may think I worry too much, but I've known a player who lost 200+ billion naq in the few seconds between it taken out of the bank and it going to the broker and he wasn't even in the attacker's farm list.

ripsaw wrote:2. You are not able to take any offensive action (Sab, Spy, Attack) within 48 hours of returning from an "emergency" vac mode.


Not a bad idea, but can you be attacked? If so, essentially it's a PPT.
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i agree that the vaction mode thing should be re-thought, but its really hard to make it fair for everyone, and also prevent people from abusing it, but I think there is a solution. I dont know it tho lol...

Just by combining some of the ideas in this thread i think that it can be re-written in a fair manner...
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As a member of the US Military, I do understand your concern. I had 8 hours notice that I was going to Iraq in 2003. One the other hand, If they are going to allow us to PM when we are getting deployed, what's keeping everyone from saying that they are in the military...

I say just take the waiting period away
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