Market rates gone crazy

[Mukasa]

Current Exchange rates:
3,040,000,000 Naquadah for 690 Turns for 15,400 Miners/Lifers for 10USD.


come on...is this normal? now it's really out of control. big players will be able to afford to exchange resources,but what about those smaller players?

i mean..over 3b for 690 turns? it sounds really crazy.


Isn't there another way to make market work normal that those smaller ones will be able to trade too? I know when i started market was way better.

[-M-]

yes they keep going up and i keep going broke

[urogard]

that is completely fine i don't see your point.
We finally got something that will prevent the market from drying up. I seriously don't see why you are angry. finally small players will be able to do good deals with their at's and big players will not be able to expand that fast.

equilibrium achieved. Supply and demand is finally in place. Thank you admin.

[Antec]

Supply and Demand....Yeah right. There are more turns than ever in the market if anything the price should be down to around 2 billion and we should be buying at least somewhere around 1000 turns.

If anything halamala its doing the exact opposite of Supply and Demand.

If the prices dont go down then the middle players like me cant buy the MT's at a multiple of 5. Its hard to make the transition of buying a multiple of 3 or 2. Cause I have always bought at 5 so going down a multiple or 2 seems like im wasting the MT's.

At the moment i am wondering should i buy turns now or wait. For all i know the turns at the end of the week will be around 3.5 billion for 500 turns.

[Mukasa]

that is completely fine i don't see your point.
We finally got something that will prevent the market from drying up. I seriously don't see why you are angry. finally small players will be able to do good deals with their at's and big players will not be able to expand that fast.

equilibrium achieved. Supply and demand is finally in place. Thank you admin.

wrong...big player won't expand any slower than before,but small players will expand even slower. in other words. looks like your afraid for your own ass but you don't think of others.

ok let it stay like this, i can do x5 whenever i want to. but my point is that with this rates big players will gain even more against small ones.

[Antec]

Because the big players can keep buying no problem while the small players would make more prophit selling there MT's for 3 billion a piece.

[Munchy]

When we discussed at's being too cheap about a month or two ago about half of the people believed they were far to cheap, and the other half said they were fine. Apparently Forum was on the too cheap side so he made the market more 'realistic'. I think it sucks, but it was a choice done partially by the players.

Lets look at some crap first though.
Current Exchange rates:
3,040,000,000 Naquadah for 690 Turns for 15,400 MineSlave/Lifers for 10USD.
In stock: 31,793,302,846,840 naq, 38,535,529 lifers/miners, 582,894 turns

So with that in mind, if the market was to actually be 'realistic':
Turns would be 54,543,884 naq apiece(37,635,280,109 for 690 at's)
Miners would be 825,038 naq apiece (12,705,596,018 for 15,400)
Turns would be 66 uu's apiece (45,616 uu's for 690 at's)

Just some food for thought


edit: It should also be noted that this week prices will get much worse. With the def con change there is going to be a surge of raiding. Enjoy

[Presario]

Does people buying turns mean it'll cost more for less miners?

[Munchy]

Does people buying turns mean it'll cost more for less miners?

Most likely.

[Presario]

Thats my plan buggered then, u think there will be a reset on the market?

[Antec]

No, basically in bout another week the turns will = 0. There will be none to buy. Last few weeks it has been building up to about 1 million turns in the market. Now its down to 500,000. Problem is the GameMod does not put enough turns in the market. We go through about 1 million a week.

So I think it will crash, and next week will be hell.

Then the game mod will put another million in it, and it will last a week or so.

Then it starts all over again.

[Presario]

Hmmm... thats annoying, I wonder why no-one thinks of adding more, maybe lowering % of turns to naq!

[grimgor]

the market is fine

3,040,000,000 Naquadah for 690 Turns for 15,400 MineSlave/Lifers

let see how much you need to make a profit

ok if i buy 690 turn for 3,040,000,000 Naquadah

3,040,000,000 / 690 = 4,405,797 per turn

so as long as you are stealing more then 66,000,000 after reapairs you made a profit


690 Turns for 15,400 UU

15,400 / 690 = 22.31 per turn

for 15 turns you need to make 334UU


Naquadah for UU / UU for Naquadah is allmost the same ratio it was few months ago only real change is turns went down

[Antec]

But that small prophit is not nearly large enough to even start ketching the large players.

The large players can afford to make a small prophit cause they have enough billions to throw where they want.

What happens when average player spends 46 billion for all the MT's and makes prophit of of 36 billion prophit?

He cant buy as many turns the next week. With not as many turns you cant make that 36 billion prophit. Causing you to maybe make 25 or 20 billion prophit. Then the next week you make even less. Eventually after about 5 or 6 weeks you come to a grinding halt.

But not the big players they just keep on buying MT's left and right. Soon your saying to yourself, "I cant sell all my UU just to get turns i dont have enough, I guess I will just sell my MT's for 3 billion a piece."

The big players get what they want, while the small players live pay check to paycheck.

[*~Starry~*]

I think that the market is unfair right now

I remember the good old days where 1bil naq for 500AT for 20kUU or something like that...

I don't mind if the market keeps the same ratio, I just don't like the fact that everytime I buy something, I have to buy in 1/10 or something like that...>< while the bigger player profit with 5x...

Also, it keeps the price of MTs higher...



~starry