descension

[Lord-RahL]

AHH thaks for clearing that up I must have missed that part




RahL

[TRA]

Actually all they would have to do is go on PPT starting on Wednesday night, get their 2nd one on Friday night, it would run out on Sunday night, the market resets sunday night/monday mourn Get a "NEW" PPT when market resets and then the 4th PPT in a row on Tuesday night which will run through till Thursday night. Which is basically an 8 day ppt. After the ppt is over all they will have to do is "vacation" till they can PPT again.

I only bring this up because I have run into it many times while trying to mass someone. If I take the time and use all the resources to decend someone I want to be able to hit them on main also.. Not stay on PPT and VAC all the time..



RahL

Will that help anyone? I mean... Though descention will effect main account hugely - descention must be done in ascentionaccount right? So a PPT won't help on that part?

Just wondering here...


GREAT WORK!!! And for what "The Dalek Empire" said:

Something should be done about the people hiding behind vacation mode if this is going to happen though - either link Main and Ascended, or remove the Ascended bonuses to Main accounts while the corresponding Ascended account is in vacation mode (harsh, but motivating).

I agree. It would encourage more play on the ascentionserver.

--T

EDIT: And extra /quote-mark got in here for some reason.

[Ston]

include ascension ppt and you got a long time protection- so if reascending is prohibited as well within the month its fine for me.

[Ston]

another issue:
1 on 1 -so kinda personal fight declare needed and noone else can do normal attack within this period of time?

and attackers damage while engaging will reduce his LF reserve first before hurting his army? and defender is other way round? So basically, the attacker loses nothing but his regenerable LF but the defenders physical militarty will be crushed by the attackers ascended power?

a 'one on one' attack can happen anytime, but any defensive army steps in to stop it....damage on the attack goes to ascended being first, then army.

the ascended being att/def is worth about 1mil times regular army, judged by 'action points'.

[Shooting Star]

I think it is a horrible plan. When it was first discussed, the main account would lose everything except miners/lifers/UU and lose one level of ascension (ie. if the person was an LG+1, they go down to LG and must ascend again to get to LG+1, but the next ascension would cost them LG+2 ascension requirements.) This is a freaking slap on the wrists to people who don't play ascension and just rapidly ascended with minimum requirements when ascension first opened to gain power in main. There should be consequences for those actions now. Descension was a feature that EVERYONE knew was going to be added to the server at some point. There were those who chose to ignore that part of it and they should suffer for it. Why are the smart players being punished yet again and the greedy ones rewarded? I like the idea of not being able to be descended again for a month. It will prevent someone from being descended five or six times in a row. But come on, this form of descension is an embarrassment. It's no punishment at all. It carries no lasting consequences, and it should. I suffered mightily through all the game "enhancements" that made the quick ascenders incredibly powerful while punishing the slow, steady ascenders and now, when I have finally positioned myself to show those people the error of their ways, you deball us once again. You might as well just post a message on the Forums saying, "Boy you were stupid for not quick ascending at the beginning"

I am sorry I wasted your time and mine submitting all those suggestions on how to achieve descension and make it a thing to be feared. Now it is just something to be laughed at, much like the "dumb" people who didn't quick ascend. Of course it is all a moot point. All someone has to do is go on permanent vacation mode in ascension and there will be no chance that they can be descended. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; other than removing the jacked up rank modifier in ascension, every other enhancement has benefitted those who obviously had the foresight to see what a joke descension was going to be. Congratulations! You guys win the prize!

[Raven]

What about new players to the server will they have any chance of not getting pawned right away or is it just first come first serve thing.........Some people are talking about fast ascensions wel i did 6 fast but heavy ones{leaving weapons+naq behind} but i only ascended a while back.............i see new players without any chance to get out of this ..............People are going on vacation mode not only because they did louzy ascendings but maybe also outta fear to get descended by people ruling there from the beginning already.............

[Brendone]

I think Shooting Star has a good point. When you get descended it should be basically as is proposed, but when you regain your ascended bonuses on main, you are one ascension lower, and the mark of embarassment doesn't go away either.

[Jack_White]

I think it is a horrible plan. When it was first discussed, the main account would lose everything except miners/lifers/UU and lose one level of ascension (ie. if the person was an LG+1, they go down to LG and must ascend again to get to LG+1, but the next ascension would cost them LG+2 ascension requirements.) This is a freaking slap on the wrists to people who don't play ascension and just rapidly ascended with minimum requirements when ascension first opened to gain power in main. There should be consequences for those actions now. Descension was a feature that EVERYONE knew was going to be added to the server at some point. There were those who chose to ignore that part of it and they should suffer for it. Why are the smart players being punished yet again and the greedy ones rewarded? I like the idea of not being able to be descended again for a month. It will prevent someone from being descended five or six times in a row. But come on, this form of descension is an embarrassment. It's no punishment at all. It carries no lasting consequences, and it should. I suffered mightily through all the game "enhancements" that made the quick ascenders incredibly powerful while punishing the slow, steady ascenders and now, when I have finally positioned myself to show those people the error of their ways, you deball us once again. You might as well just post a message on the Forums saying, "Boy you were stupid for not quick ascending at the beginning"

I am sorry I wasted your time and mine submitting all those suggestions on how to achieve descension and make it a thing to be feared. Now it is just something to be laughed at, much like the "dumb" people who didn't quick ascend. Of course it is all a moot point. All someone has to do is go on permanent vacation mode in ascension and there will be no chance that they can be descended. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised; other than removing the jacked up rank modifier in ascension, every other enhancement has benefitted those who obviously had the foresight to see what a joke descension was going to be. Congratulations! You guys win the prize!

I have to agree, if this is how it's going to be then there is no point for me to spend alot of time and effort to get a good ascension. I might as well just do 2 quick one's and no one would be able to really destroy me.

[Benjrsmith]

1 month is too long in main.

[Forum]

again - this is why i post ahead of time....
i got a general idea of your issues, but between the sarcasm, some may have got lost
state your objections clearly, and you'll be better heard.

a bunch of spiteful statements!

[Raven]

If that counts for me too i will restate my question


What about newly ascended who really have no chance of catching up with the top players even if they went heavy on al 6 ascension and did 6 more heavy ones cause the server is running for a long time already!

[CrimsonFrost]

If that counts for me too i will restate my question


What about newly ascended who really have no chance of catching up with the top players even if they went heavy on al 6 ascension and did 6 more heavy ones cause the server is running for a long time already!

They should stay out of the way of the big dogs then. (lol) Its the same thing as someone starting today in main and trying to antagonize someone that has been playing for over a year. Same result, complete destruction.

I feel that the one week of ascended PPT makes sense, some time to recoup, regroup, etc. However I would prefer that after being descended the benefeit loss should be permanent. The real chance of actually having something to lose in ascension is what keeps this place more interesting then main in my opinion, you have something to lose

I wouldnt say lose it all from one descension though, maybe bumped one ascension down, lose 5% of your bonus, etc. (Although I would grant a little longer time between descensions, say 2 weeks.)

[Raven]

If that counts for me too i will restate my question


What about newly ascended who really have no chance of catching up with the top players even if they went heavy on al 6 ascension and did 6 more heavy ones cause the server is running for a long time already!

They should stay out of the way of the big dogs then. (lol) Its the same thing as someone starting today in main and trying to antagonize someone that has been playing for over a year. Same result, complete destruction.

I feel that the one week of ascended PPT makes sense, some time to recoup, regroup, etc. However I would prefer that after being descended the benefeit loss should be permanent. The real chance of actually having something to lose in ascension is what keeps this place more interesting then main in my opinion, you have something to lose

I wouldnt say lose it all from one descension though, maybe bumped one ascension down, lose 5% of your bonus, etc. (Although I would grant a little longer time between descensions, say 2 weeks.)

Yes they should but nobody is gonna waste resources massing down someone who just started.
Its different in the ascended server cause some players might be large in Main but are weak in ascended cause they got ascended way after most did.

Look i wont go around any facts im not saying this to protect new players only but also myself i just got playing like 5 months ago so i never had a real chance to become powerful in the ascended server ....yet....
I am planning on doing some more ascensions not because Decsension is coming now but just because i like playing the ascended server only i can never make up the lack of having planets goes thats only gained through time.........

[dredd2525]

I have to agree. Each descension should remove an ascension from your main account. down to being removed from the ascension server entirely. this was launched from day one as a high risk server it should be a high risk server.

I think it is a great idea that once one ascended being attacks another with a god attack no other ascended being can attack that person with a god attack for say a week, or even a couple days.

Let me clarify this concerns god attacks, not physical realm attacks. so many could mass a defense but many could not descend one person.

And once a being is descended they can not be god attacked again for a week and get a ppt to rebuild. this should provide ample time to put a defense in order again.

As for ramifications for the main account. I think the power, income, and ascended blessing should just be removed from the account, their title demoted and a special tag be put on their name until they ascend to the next level again.

as far as the newly ascended. how about an ascension assistance? like officers in main. Oma Dasala helped many people, including Daniel. What if you helped the newly ascended giving them protection so no one could descend them without descending you first. and in return you get an increase to your CEf equal to their CEF. then just limit them to 3 months under assistance from another ascended being. any account should be able to put an appropriate defense in place by then.

[Forum]

does nobody recognize that ascended accounts are bonuses 100% on the # of ascensions?
what if that # was zero.
no income bonus; no att bonus; no def bonus; no cov bonus; no ascended blessing (unique); etc....
a month of being 25% weaker than the weakest race....
plus - who is to say you cannot do it each month?
ask the right questions, get hte right answers