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Tok_Ra wrote:
blackadder wrote:Off Topic Point
Clear Server of the inactive ascension accounts, if no activity or on Vac Mode for 6 weeks or more then freeze account and remove from Cosmos. If become active then unfreeze.



Id like that, have those that are inactive in ascended server get frozen and unable to be deascended (or become resource farms, making it even more intersting)


no way is that ok.

so what your saying is people can ascend and the just not be active in ascention and there safe from being descended?

nope that will just not work
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Tok_Ra wrote:
blackadder wrote:Off Topic Point
Clear Server of the inactive ascension accounts, if no activity or on Vac Mode for 6 weeks or more then freeze account and remove from Cosmos. If become active then unfreeze.



Id like that, have those that are inactive in ascended server get frozen and unable to be deascended (or become resource farms, making it even more intersting)


why ? and why? to the qouted guy.......

I know someone who ascended once decided he did not liek the ascension server and stopped at one ascenstion and no longer plays ascension at all , logs in once a month to spend LF on max LF,

Why should be not be able to be deascended he isnt on vacation mode, because he doesnt really care if hes deascended , and doesnt want to play main and be protected in an asc if he cares not aobtu asc at all,

ofcourse now hes also quit main but there you go ;)
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then fourm needs to add decension warnings before you register on asencion, and take all ascended players who dont want to be ascended in that case and find some way to unascend their account w/o messing it up.

Why did I ascend ? I saw in the fourm that you got 6 5% bonus's each ascension up to #6. If Id known I could loose it getting massed in asc server, I woulda simply kept my account.
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Aslong as you dont go out of your way to make loads of enemies on there you should be fine,

I did see alot saying link the Vacation mode from Ascention to Main, problem is there, unless its addressed in an update is, people will go and mass on main, then jump into the ascended sever and hit vacation mode, thus making them safe on main, whereas atm you cannot do that,

Also if you get to LG + 1 for the 30% and build up a massive UP, then you get descended do you lose all that Up???? does the account reset to the previous LG only at 25%, cause if thats the case whats the point in going for ascention, there are people in the top 50 in main who have never once ascended????

Im i havent been playing aslong as some of you hardcore guys so maybe im missing the point altogether..
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Tok_Ra wrote:then fourm needs to add decension warnings before you register on asencion, and take all ascended players who dont want to be ascended in that case and find some way to unascend their account w/o messing it up.

Why did I ascend ? I saw in the fourm that you got 6 5% bonus's each ascension up to #6. If Id known I could loose it getting massed in asc server, I woulda simply kept my account.


you should have read the forum more carefully as everyone knew this was comming. also there will be an opion to decend yourself if you want to.
but you will loose your bonuses.

now can we please keep this thread on topic.
wather or not you would have ascended or not or indeed if you want to play ascention at all is nothing to do with the suggestions for this update.

thank you :D
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Ok, Heres my opinion.

I think that as is its a bad idea.

Players tha worked to ascend should have the option of weather or not to play ascencion server. They dont play it, it shouldnt affect their main account, on Main.
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Tok_Ra wrote:Ok, Heres my opinion.

I think that as is its a bad idea.

Players tha worked to ascend should have the option of weather or not to play ascencion server. They dont play it, it shouldnt affect their main account, on Main.


it was part of the fundamental parts of ascension that descension was going to occur. to protest this now, is simply bad timing. you've already commited, you either commit harder, or risk losing your new "shiney main bonuses" which were really not ment to be THE reason to ascend.

my idea seems to be popular :D

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Forums suggested method to handle de-scesion is PERFECT and needs no changes in my opinon, go FORUM!

the vacation mode stuff can come with another update, should focus on how de-scesions are handled now
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I still dont think it should affect the main server, especily since people only just now ascending might wish they hadn't. Im deffinatly recomending a few of my officers close to ascending dont worry about it, since it has the potentel of being a big waste if you can loose the bonus due to a massing.


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Psi Kiya Trist wrote:it was part of the fundamental parts of ascension that descension was going to occur. to protest this now, is simply bad timing. you've already commited, you either commit harder, or risk losing your new "shiney main bonuses" which were really not ment to be THE reason to ascend.


Well face it Psi, quite a few ppl only ascend for the bonus. Moreso, I only ascended for the bonus, plus I never even intended on playing asencion hearing it sucked (I dont think its that bad myself, but I dont like what Ive seen as much as main)
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Tok_Ra wrote:I still dont think it should affect the main server, especily since people only just now ascending might wish they hadn't. Im deffinatly recomending a few of my officers close to ascending dont worry about it, since it has the potentel of being a big waste if you can loose the bonus due to a massing.


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Psi Kiya Trist wrote:it was part of the fundamental parts of ascension that descension was going to occur. to protest this now, is simply bad timing. you've already commited, you either commit harder, or risk losing your new "shiney main bonuses" which were really not ment to be THE reason to ascend.


Well face it Psi, quite a few ppl only ascend for the bonus. Moreso, I only ascended for the bonus, plus I never even intended on playing asencion hearing it sucked (I dont think its that bad myself, but I dont like what Ive seen as much as main)


Can't agree with you buddy - descension has been coming for a long, long time. And like it or not, the Ascended serevr and Main ARE linked - if you elect to Ascend in main, you get the bonuses for doing so - as a reward to playing Ascension. Decension was always planned and is finally being implemented to complete the circle - i.e. if you do not play it - you run the risk of descension, or if you go on vacation so does your main account (or you lose your main bonuses).

Remember - main bonuses are a reward for BEING PART of Ascension - if you do not take part in ascension then you do not deserve your bonuses, nor should it be allowed that your ascension account is frozen, allowing you to keep your bonuses without the risk of descension - it simply isn't fair to those who actually play it.
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Tok`ra

No offense wolfie...... but it might have been 'coming', but not all assencion info tends to to get leaked (ok, it all does, but only if you ask around). Plus not everyone nessacarily uses the fourm.

Be nice if people got a warning.......
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Tok_Ra there are a couple of things i want to point out to you.

firstly you will not be descended by a simple massing. it will take a LOT of personal attacks on you to do it and it will take a long time and a lot of turns to complete. as you dont play ascention i don't think you fully understand how hard it will be to descend someone. and i think telling you officers what to do when you have no clue is a bit daft.

secondly i really don't like the fact that you have no intention of playing ascention yet you come here and try to say how an update should be implemented. leave it to those who actually play the game to decide how it goes.

if you only ascended for the bonuses well im sorry to be blunt, but tough. you were wrong to do that. it is ment to be played.
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Tok_Ra wrote:Ok, Heres my opinion.

I think that as is its a bad idea.

Players tha worked to ascend should have the option of weather or not to play ascencion server. They dont play it, it shouldnt affect their main account, on Main.


You're shooting yourself in the foot there. You said it yourself - players "worked to Ascend". They didn't "work for bonuses in Main". They worked to Ascend, and as a nice reward for Ascending you get to increase the power of your Main account. The Main bonuses are secondary to Ascension itself. That's why it is called Ascension and not "the Main Account Improvement Scheme With Optional Access To Another Server" (or MAISWOATAS for short).

You cannot just cherry pick your favourite parts of the game and say "well I don't want to take part in the rest". That's like saying "I like massing people, but I don't like spending time building up Unit Production or defence, so I want Forum to add a system that gives massers infinite turns and attack units, and this system is to have no downsides at all". Utter nonsense.

Furthermore, you cannot claim ignorance to Descension. If you looked hard enough to learn that you get a 30% bonus to all stats upon the sixth Ascension then you could have looked into the idea of Ascension a bit more thoroughly, especially considering the huge commitment involved with Ascension. Heck, you don't even have to look on the forums - just ask someone. The fact that you didn't is no-one's fault but your own I'm afraid.

If you want to avoid all of this trouble then you should now log into Main and change your race from whatever Ascended race you are currently to what ever Mortal race you choose, and start to repair the damage you have done to yourself with your hubris.
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Speeking of daft, thats assuming that people dont ascend for just for the main bonus. I Literly just ascended, and did nothing to my account there, but looking around in the server (before I decided not to play it) I noticed quite a few people lower ranking than me.

Now, considering I ascended with the bare min stats, having 'lent' everything out, if there are people lower ranked than me than there must be a large number of inactives.......
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whenever you ascended there was alot of INSTRUCTIONS AND TEXT, and one talked about what is going on right now ........it isnt our fault you didnt read it now, go somewhere else

this thread is for talking about the upcoming de-scesion WHICH IS COMING and was always coming since day one of ascesion
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