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will there be any bonus for the hard work of the person doing the attacking?
its just there will be alot of work going into descending someone and with such work should come some degree of reward/bonus


edit;oh and good job btw
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Love the idea, well done =D>

Good job with the hard work and long hours you spend to increase the gameplay for us all. :D
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Forum wrote:main account and ascended status are tied.
if ascended status is fully active, ascended bonuses on main account are as they are now.
if ascended status is vacationing, ascended bonuses on main account are halved.
if ascended status is 'descended' (1month long), no ascended bonuses on main account.


I guess I was a little more extreme lol, but hey its a great start and we'll see how it goes! This is beta, as you said.
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I suppose that it will have to do for now, but it is still unclear how descension takes place. I mean, I would hope that you would have to God Quest the person in order to seek them out to do battle with them one on one. You cannot just go up to someone and start engaging them in combat with your personal ascended stats. Because then, someone who is a n00b in ascension could shove all of his points into his personal ascended stats and go around massing people. Hopefully it will favor those who have balanced accounts and got strong in all areas and did not do the one-trick pony thing. Also, during the time that you cannot access your account on ascension, should you get descended, are you on "vacation mode" where you are not gaining resources? Or how is that working? Can you still be attacked during that three week period where you cannot log on?

And I definitely do NOT like the idea that main bonuses are only halved in main if you are on vacation in ascension. I think it should be all if you are not on vacation or nothing if you are. If someone is weak in ascension because they quick ascended or didn't play ascension, you are giving them the option of being undescendable and keeping a bonus in main. Why reward them? Ascension was supposed to be a server for those who wanted a different challenge, not one where you sit and gain bonuses in main and don't play.

I have to say that I am disappointed, mainly because when we first discussed descension it was much different (and much harsher) than this watered down version. It's kind of like going to a restaurant, having the waiter explain the special to you and it sounds tremendous so you order it and are looking forward to it, then he brings you out something else and explains that this is the dish that he meant to explain to you. It may be a good dish, it might even be an excellent dish, but you were expecting something totally different and so you are disappointed. We can give it a try, but frankly, without permanent losses in main for descensions, there is really nothing to fear. Just my two cents' worth! Don't get me wrong, Jason! I appreciate the work you have put into this but when you listen to the "majority" who don't play ascension except to get the bonuses in main, then you piss off the people for whom you actually created the ascended server.
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Forum wrote:main account and ascended status are tied.
if ascended status is fully active, ascended bonuses on main account are as they are now.
if ascended status is vacationing, ascended bonuses on main account are halved.
if ascended status is 'descended' (1month long), no ascended bonuses on main account.


Why not have it so that if you are on vac mode in Main or Ascension you are also on vac mode in the other? I think the option of vac mode is there as a convenience to players who don't want to loose everything if they're gone for a few weeks. I don't think it was intended to be a form of strategy (correct me if I'm wrong). Either you are on vacation, and thus can't play either, or you are not. Just my two cents ;)

P.S. The rest of what you've decided seem to be good, although I'm sure someone will find something to exploit :twisted:
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i like it but the same point as above

if ur on vac mode in ascended u should be in main as well

jsut means they stillpick up bonuses maybe not as much but still....

we all knew the risks in ascending what the benefits would be not to mention risks

oterwise i thinkits a good start
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and what about the ppl that have bought or traded an ascension account or have been banned in main but been allowed to keep their asc account? and afterwards they started a new main account.
how do you make sure they are being cought as well with the vac rule?
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Sounds like a good compromise of all the ideas voiced.
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Sounds good, most bases seem to have been covered. We'll just have to wait to see if there are any possible problems/imbalences no-one has thought of.
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it's a very nice update.

you did a nice job.you can't make everyone happy with this update,but that's normal with so much players in sgw.

give us a sign when the update comes online :D
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KGC wrote:
Forum wrote:main account and ascended status are tied.
if ascended status is fully active, ascended bonuses on main account are as they are now.
if ascended status is vacationing, ascended bonuses on main account are halved.
if ascended status is 'descended' (1month long), no ascended bonuses on main account.


Why not have it so that if you are on vac mode in Main or Ascension you are also on vac mode in the other? I think the option of vac mode is there as a convenience to players who don't want to loose everything if they're gone for a few weeks. I don't think it was intended to be a form of strategy (correct me if I'm wrong). Either you are on vacation, and thus can't play either, or you are not. Just my two cents ;)


Yea voices my opinion quite nicely, vacation means youre on vacation, cant log in...

Wolf359 wrote:Sounds like a good compromise of all the ideas voiced.


Compromise is for losers. I want it my way. Now. Seriously tho, GoD (post above) said it very nicely too.

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