Clarification on a rule. PPT

[Bazsy]

woooo wait everyone.

Did u chekced that thing out?
Cause its at not accepting by default, so if the update was implemented, and admin beta tested it before it was mentioned..... It could be a coincidence.
And frankly, if ETL asked admin when he realized what happened, the ppt was already activated and the market turn spent. As far as i know u cant get back MTs or such...

[RepliJake]

What an absolute joke. SGW has been sold out! The game, the concept everything. It has never been a secret ETL got on well with Jason (admin), however, not for one minute has anyone thought that the integrity of this game would be decimated as a result of this friendship.

You're seriously talking about integrity over someone spending their dollars to stop someone going into PPT again was stopped? No, SERIOUSLY?

OMEGA rule the game. I bow down to you. I will now once again delete my account. You cannot be beaten.

Thanks, we like you too

Why?

Because you're just so awesome.

Because you write the damn rules!! Change SGW to Omega. Why should anyone support this site or play it for one god damn more second knowing that no matter what they do or how they do it, the game will alter to protect ETL and his alliance.

EtL and his Alliance, play this game, for the most part, we've helped expose things, we've helped stop the bad things before they're aimed at you, because generally, we find them, or they find us, anyone could have emailed admin, his adress is no big secret, blame JaseB for telling me about it early enough for EtL to do something about it.

In other words, you can never win.

Not with that attitude, no.

What a shame, it was a bloody good concept this game.

The game is still a good concept, did you JUST come back to sulk?

[TheRook]

What an absolute joke. SGW has been sold out! The game, the concept everything. It has never been a secret ETL got on well with Jason (admin), however, not for one minute has anyone thought that the integrity of this game would be decimated as a result of this friendship.

You're seriously talking about integrity over someone spending their dollars to stop someone going into PPT again was stopped? No, SERIOUSLY?

OMEGA rule the game. I bow down to you. I will now once again delete my account. You cannot be beaten.

Thanks, we like you too

Why?

Because you're just so awesome.

Because you write the damn rules!! Change SGW to Omega. Why should anyone support this site or play it for one god damn more second knowing that no matter what they do or how they do it, the game will alter to protect ETL and his alliance.

EtL and his Alliance, play this game, for the most part, we've helped expose things, we've helped stop the bad things before they're aimed at you, because generally, we find them, or they find us, anyone could have emailed admin, his adress is no big secret, blame JaseB for telling me about it early enough for EtL to do something about it.

In other words, you can never win.

Not with that attitude, no.

What a shame, it was a bloody good concept this game.

The game is still a good concept, did you JUST come back to sulk?

hehe

did anyone see the trade in ETL's Private broker?

Jason_AKA_Admin_AKA_Forum EnterTheLion 99,999,999 uu for 1 naqaudah completed april 2005

omg... cheaters!

Jason_AKA_Admin_AKA_Forum TheRook 1 naquadah for 99,999,999 uu completed march 2005

see he took my 99million UU and gave them to ETL!!

edit : while I'm not one to hold grudges I would accept a tiny 10% repayment... of 9,999,999 UU as compensation for my loses...

TheRook

[J.S.]

What an absolute joke. SGW has been sold out! The game, the concept everything. It has never been a secret ETL got on well with Jason (admin), however, not for one minute has anyone thought that the integrity of this game would be decimated as a result of this friendship.

You're seriously talking about integrity over someone spending their dollars to stop someone going into PPT again was stopped? No, SERIOUSLY?

OMEGA rule the game. I bow down to you. I will now once again delete my account. You cannot be beaten.

Thanks, we like you too

Why?

Because you're just so awesome.

Because you write the damn rules!! Change SGW to Omega. Why should anyone support this site or play it for one god damn more second knowing that no matter what they do or how they do it, the game will alter to protect ETL and his alliance.

EtL and his Alliance, play this game, for the most part, we've helped expose things, we've helped stop the bad things before they're aimed at you, because generally, we find them, or they find us, anyone could have emailed admin, his adress is no big secret, blame JaseB for telling me about it early enough for EtL to do something about it.

In other words, you can never win.

Not with that attitude, no.

What a shame, it was a bloody good concept this game.

The game is still a good concept, did you JUST come back to sulk?

hehe

did anyone see the trade in ETL's Private broker?

Jason_AKA_Admin_AKA_Forum EnterTheLion 99,999,999 uu for 1 naqaudah completed april 2005

omg... cheaters!

Jason_AKA_Admin_AKA_Forum TheRook 1 naquadah for 99,999,999 uu completed march 2005

see he took my 99million UU and gave them to ETL!!

This will probably get locked so better make this one fast...


Right.. Jase should get his money back because the way I interept these rules the updates should have NOT been in place untill Dec 10th AKA the day the update was announced..

Untill then this should NOT have happened!!!

[Rottenking]

acctuly, i was reading that this thread started on the 6th and the new update was relesed on the 10, so in my opinion the $10 should be refunded

[TheRook]

you have no proof it wasn't done before then just not put in an update there have been times before where forum has put that he may have forgotten something

by the way

its a DONATION

if you went and gave your £1 to someone to for poppy appeal and you generally get a poppy & pin... if he says oh I'm sorry we are out of poppies would you try to get your £1 back? you heartless people...

Jase has left & made roughly $280 from selling his account... so - the $10 and maybe call it 2 $50 SS's he has made $170

he doesn't care about the refund now... so this thread needs locking...

TheRook

[slicky]

you have no proof it wasn't done before then just not put in an update there have been times before where forum has put that he may have forgotten something

by the way

its a DONATION

if you went and gave your £1 to someone to for poppy appeal and you generally get a poppy & pin... if he says oh I'm sorry we are out of poppies would you try to get your £1 back? you heartless people...

Jase has left & made roughly $280 from selling his account... so - the $10 and maybe call it 2 $50 SS's he has made $170

he doesn't care about the refund now... so this thread needs locking...

TheRook

Indeed, and the fact that he has sold things that really do infact belong to admin in the first place, now leaves it at him owning Admin $280, but i don't suppose he will want to give that back now will he?

[RepliMagni]

you have no proof it wasn't done before then just not put in an update there have been times before where forum has put that he may have forgotten something

Erm...so you're saying ETL knew about the update when no one else did?

by the way

its a DONATION

if you went and gave your £1 to someone to for poppy appeal and you generally get a poppy & pin... if he says oh I'm sorry we are out of poppies would you try to get your £1 back? you heartless people...

lol, you can't compare donating to a charity with donating to a game. And the whole reason people donate to the game is to get ingame bonuses....which were denied.

[TheRook]

Erm...so you're saying ETL knew about the update when no one else did?

lol, you can't compare donating to a charity with donating to a game. And the whole reason people donate to the game is to get ingame bonuses....which were denied.

did anyone else in that period of time get a $10 ppt bought for them?

what I'm saying is a donation is a donation... you cant get it back because you didnt get what you thought you would...

Dear oxfam I would like my £3 a month donation returned as in your adverts it was depicted that it would be used in buying fishing equipment for people to fish for a life time... but instead you used it for medical supplies...

please refund it immediately

disgruntled
fish hater

TheRook

[RepliMagni]

Lore has already discussed the fact that this was used as a viable tactic earlier in the game....this has been used before. However, because it happens to ETL, the rules suddenly get changed within a few days....

And again you're comparing donating to a charity with donating to a game. They are completely different concepts. Heck, the only reason its called donating on here is because Jason would probably get into even worse copyright issues if he said buy.

If you enjoy this game and would like to donate to become a supporter of this site to help cover hosting and bandwidth bills,
you can use Paypal, or any credit card via our 3rd party secure credit card processor.
Donating to become a Supporter of StarGateWars_Main costs as little as $20 (or $10 for short term benefits only) and definately provides some perks!

Clearly ingame benefits are expected upon donation.

Moreover, it even says:

IMPORTANT: ALL payments are automated in order to get you the benefits immediately, and require the complete purchase process to complete before you get the bonuses.

All benefits are immediate.....there shouldn't have been a delay or an option to refuse the ppt donation at the time it was given....yet ETL admits to doing just that....I want to know how? Why is it that ETL seems to have been given different treatment to everyone else?

[J.S.]

Rook stop trying to cover this up and sweep it under the carpet cos this is bigger then that.. This IS a whole load of crap.. I don't care who the player in question is..

As for jase selling his acocunt thats becuase he has had enough of a game that is dictated by certain players... Again not saying anyone in particular..

The update was released Yesterday on Monday the 10th of December.. NOT anytime before.. Giving players certain knowledge just becuase they may know the admin is a bunch of BS..

The facts are this

1. There was no update when it was bought.. I never heard of anyone before that having to accept a PPT payment... I think Jenny was a victim of this a few weeks ago..

2. If an update has not been announced to the players how can you know about it and how can you call it legal... Its not about the 10 dollars anymore its about the treatment certain people seem to receive...

Knowing about and using an "update" before there actually is one is CHEATING as all the players do not know about it..

I didn't know about it and neither did anyone else I knew bar the player in question... I do not call that fair play it was all too coincidental and I call that abuse of the system..

[J.S.]

Double post but had to put this across too

Ingame mail and minor update.


Even the wording is trying to make it look as sweet as possible.. And again sooo near to the day that I first heard about it..

Again a load of crap!!!



Waits to see this thread locked or moved or even removed patiently!!

[Rottenking]

you have no proof it wasn't done before then just not put in an update there have been times before where forum has put that he may have forgotten something

by the way

its a DONATION

if you went and gave your £1 to someone to for poppy appeal and you generally get a poppy & pin... if he says oh I'm sorry we are out of poppies would you try to get your £1 back? you heartless people...

Jase has left & made roughly $280 from selling his account... so - the $10 and maybe call it 2 $50 SS's he has made $170

he doesn't care about the refund now... so this thread needs locking...

TheRook

well first of as someone else said you cant compare it to a charity, cause a charity is exacaly that its a charity
this isnt, this is donating for a game which when you donate you get the benifitys from it( plus with a charity its tax deductible were a donation on here isnt)

Indeed, and the fact that he has sold things that really do infact belong to admin in the first place, now leaves it at him owning Admin $280, but i don't suppose he will want to give that back now will he?

no because their has nothing saying you cant sell accounts and even in that case, he had to pay admin, then everyone who sold UU or NAQ for real cash would have to give it to admin, i think not,

and J.S i totaly agree its bigger than just $10 its about the fact that their was "insider trading" (if you dont know what it is please look it up to long to explain) which is totaly unfair, and ok admin may ov over looked the update but i think that would make it only fair that he was reimbursed because it was admins mistake for not makeing it public ( and possibly telling ELT ( and maybe others) about it before everyone else ( altho i kind of doubt he would of but their is noway to prove it))

i wish admin will post to give his side of the story

Double post but had to put this across too

Ingame mail and minor update.


Even the wording is trying to make it look as sweet as possible.. And again sooo near to the day that I first heard about it..

Again a load of crap!!!

once again i agree, it should of been a bit more descriptive, my main concern was the update was relesed ( well made known to the general public ) on the 10th of december and this topic came about before that

[Stoney]

Can someone please bring this to Jasons attention - alot of players seem very upset by this yet not a word from etl or admin, it has been posted above why it would be wrong for ONE player to be able to use this when others have suffered by it in the past....... if the rules state benefits are recieved then they should be and nothing less..... everyone tryin to take the piss out of others shouldn't even bother, how bout lets try finding the truth so we can get on with it......

I too will be getting rid of m account if it turns out to be a buddy - buddy thing cause NO ONE in this game should get preferential treatment, eg i e-mailed admin along with my mate over 5 months ago to get an IP banning changed and still haven't heard back, yet other players can have stuff reversed in seconds....... yeah REAL FAIR.....

[TheRook]

dont get me wrong I'm interested in finding out what actually happened...

but I'm just playing devils advocate and saying what could have happened as everyones jumping and saying Forum did it after...

I'm giving other sides to the story

donating is donating no matter if its charity of for a game... stop trying to say their are two definitions for donating... in this game you are given bonuses for it... i'm not denying that... I'm clearly pointing out when you donate something you cant ask for it back... he has said he doesn't want to back so stop going on about the $10...

and start going on about trying to find out when the update took place... also this is Forum's game and technically he can do what he likes...

I too will be getting rid of m account if it turns out to be a buddy - buddy thing cause NO ONE in this game should get preferential treatment, eg i e-mailed admin along with my mate over 5 months ago to get an IP banning changed and still haven't heard back, yet other players can have stuff reversed in seconds....... yeah REAL FAIR.....

let me know and I'll have it off you

yes some people appear to get things sorted quicker... but that it just the way of life... I got a reply with 3 hours when I had a problem with the private broker & buying SS for someone...

I haven't heard a damn thing about getting permissions to trade amongst real life friends with shared ip issues...

TheRook