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This is the biggest load of crap ive ever read, ppl who ascended late can catch up my id is 1171 and everyone who is or a similar size and smaller than me have id's sub 200, the whole idea is that if you dont want to get raided then make you self unraidable ie have a defence that will make them loose more than they gain its not hare you just need to balance between income and defence just like you do in main.
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Profitteroles wrote:This is the biggest load of crap ive ever read, ppl who ascended late can catch up my id is 1171 and everyone who is or a similar size and smaller than me have id's sub 200, the whole idea is that if you dont want to get raided then make you self unraidable ie have a defence that will make them loose more than they gain its not hare you just need to balance between income and defence just like you do in main.

ehm, ok. your id is 1171. so what? you are in omega, your growth is not slowed down by the fact that others raid you.

you don't even have to bother with a defence because no one will dare even farming you once.

also. i'd like to know how many you got defence planets in comparison to income planets. if you have a ratio of 2.5 to 1 (because that's what you are just telling me to do) then i will follow your advice. I bet you don't even have half of that.
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Profitteroles wrote:This is the biggest load of crap ive ever read, ppl who ascended late can catch up my id is 1171 and everyone who is or a similar size and smaller than me have id's sub 200, the whole idea is that if you dont want to get raided then make you self unraidable ie have a defence that will make them loose more than they gain its not hare you just need to balance between income and defence just like you do in main.

ehm, ok. your id is 1171. so what? you are in omega, your growth is not slowed down by the fact that others raid you.

you don't even have to bother with a defence because no one will dare even farming you once.

also. i'd like to know how many you got defence planets in comparison to income planets. if you have a ratio of 2.5 to 1 (because that's what you are just telling me to do) then i will follow your advice. I bet you don't even have half of that.


I had a good ascention account before i joined omega and ive only been a memebr of omega for about 3-4 months and i never got raided b4 and im very good friends of 3 non cop member that ascentions accounts are as good and in some casses better than mine, its all about how you play it.
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Profitteroles wrote:I had a good ascention account before i joined omega and ive only been a memebr of omega for about 3-4 months and i never got raided b4 and im very good friends of 3 non cop member that ascentions accounts are as good and in some casses better than mine, its all about how you play it.


would a nice pm asking for stopping to raid me forever be enough you think. cos the thing with getting a higher def won't be a solution

i had my def massed a few times before the peeps managed to get some successful raids of it and it was still damn worth it for them (something like 10k losses and 50k gain)
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The rank modifier is not strong enough in my view. I kept my rank in the 300s despite my defence being top 70, my assassin top 80, covert top 70 and I was Rank 75 Influence. I still got raided by someone in the Top 20 and lost 200k Planets in process ( defence losses+planet loss ). I have ascended twice in total so I am an ascension weakling. I also had six months out of the game. I also has a ration of 2:1 when raided so that does not work when you have higher planet numbers.

If the rank modifier was stronger then it would be possible to use it as a true test of skill, you would be up against players of similar size. The fact that Top 20 can raid into the 300s and take 90% is a problem as without multiple further ascensions I can never hope to catch up if everytime I build my account it is raided. I have to say until last week I had not had the unpleasant sight of the loss of so many of my planets. I have since had many smaller attacks repelled as I am having to take my income planets out of commission to build even stronger defences. It did teach me a lesson which I will not forget and I am grateful for the lesson

If you could raid to a multiple of 3-4 of your influence rank that would seem fairer
10% reduction in gains for 1-2x you rank
25% reduction in gains for 2-3x your rank
50% reduction in gains for 3-4x you rank.

This would mean I had to seek alternative raid targets myself....It would also mean that as you rose in the ranks with more and more experience it would get harder and harder for you, making it a greater challenge
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blah blah blah.

Why would someone want to raid you for so little planets, if they do raid you its a good things, since it means they are wasting THEIR turns.
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~Phoenix~ wrote:blah blah blah.

Why would someone want to raid you for so little planets, if they do raid you its a good things, since it means they are wasting THEIR turns.


Becuase it's not a small amount of planets. When I go raiding I make massive profits just taking 6 or 7k per hit. You don't realize how much raiding makes.
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Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:blah blah blah.

Why would someone want to raid you for so little planets, if they do raid you its a good things, since it means they are wasting THEIR turns.


Becuase it's not a small amount of planets. When I go raiding I make massive profits just taking 6 or 7k per hit. You don't realize how much raiding makes.


But newer players dont pay out 7 or 8k planets do they. This guy wants protection for newer players, most newer plays don't have hardly any planets. Therefor I cant see how your point is valid.

I'd also like to this amazing way you manage to get 7k planets per hit with such a small strike.
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~Phoenix~ wrote:But newer players dont pay out 7 or 8k planets do they. This guy wants protection for newer players, most newer plays don't have hardly any planets. Therefor I cant see how your point is valid.

I'd also like to this amazing way you manage to get 7k planets per hit with such a small strike.


ehm because not everyone goes raiding with 8k per hit.
most of the pople that raided me were sufficient with 2-3k per hit and i can manage that too but instead of their 20+bil strike i use a 4 bil strike :D.

and if you don't raid you should learn to do so.

the improved rank modifier that melchet suggested would be great.
would make those that have great stats go raiding the bigger players that would yield you appropriate results
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urogard wrote:I fail to see the logic in how new players are supposed to develop in this game if they can constantly can (and do) get raided by various people (who are powerful already) and sometimes even get massed in the process.



train your units?????????

have enough defence to protect your up and income??????

dont buy planets that you cant use... or are too good for your account.
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~Phoenix~ wrote:I'd also like to this amazing way you manage to get 7k planets per hit with such a small strike.


Strike is relevant to the time for me. :wink: Would you like to see how large my strike can get? :o
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Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:I'd also like to this amazing way you manage to get 7k planets per hit with such a small strike.


Strike is relevant to the time for me. :wink: Would you like to see how large my strike can get? :o


Actually, yes I would. Regale us with tales of your huge strike, O Mighty One! :)

(Mojo goes to check to make sure he still has the number one strike)
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Shooting Star wrote:
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:I'd also like to this amazing way you manage to get 7k planets per hit with such a small strike.


Strike is relevant to the time for me. :wink: Would you like to see how large my strike can get? :o


Actually, yes I would. Regale us with tales of your huge strike, O Mighty One! :)

(Mojo goes to check to make sure he still has the number one strike)


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Stupid Mojo and his obsession with strike. Damn massive ascended account. So far ahead of the rest of the server, I hope admin adds a cap just to piss him off.

Oh I'm sorry, did I say that aloud? :-D
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bryan wrote:train your units?????????

have enough defence to protect your up and income??????

dont buy planets that you cant use... or are too good for your account.


what's the point in training your units when they still get raided. (the only difference it makes is that you save the stealer 3k dmu per planet to train it into an income planet)

enough defence to protect income planets? you're joking right
if the def is high enough certain people first attack you 4-5 times to bring it down a bit so that they can punch through.
If the def isn't high enough they just go through it anyway.


since when can you buy planets?
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urogard wrote:
bryan wrote:train your units?????????

have enough defence to protect your up and income??????

dont buy planets that you cant use... or are too good for your account.


what's the point in training your units when they still get raided. (the only difference it makes is that you save the stealer 3k dmu per planet to train it into an income planet)

enough defence to protect income planets? you're joking right
if the def is high enough certain people first attack you 4-5 times to bring it down a bit so that they can punch through.
If the def isn't high enough they just go through it anyway.


since when can you buy planets?


My god are you still going on about this? I know plenty of ppl (NON COP before you say it) that have played ascention for longer than 8 months and not been raided, one of them has over 2 million planets and hasn't even been attacked once since he first ascended. IF you are getting raided or attacked then your account is built the wrong way and instead of complaining about it here you should go login and and start playing properly
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