barbarian: i think you should refrain from posting too much as I understand your very angry about the accusations. the best thing to do is to get unomosch, yourself, SUCKIT and a witness from either side into an MSN conversation which is easier said than done if SUCKIT has retired the MSN.
i agree here with zarakai
and from my point of view the one you name SUCKIT wouldnt quit sgw that easily, he was to passionate about it.. first chaos, then main, maybe even quantum...
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wizard wrote:hmm....these excuses sound far fectched, but in a way do make sense and some of this is starting to piece together. However there isn't enough solid proof yet to make this claim of a scammer true. I do think there needs to be more investigation. If the admin can trace this or cork can say he massed Barbarian that day, or other stuff, it would help.
Of Course " corkscrew " would say " he did mass ~B~/SUCKIT " they are in CoP, they stick up for eachother
As far as i know andy didn't mass him at all..... he was going to but didn't.
Edit* Andy did mass him when he first bought the account off Hen but it was hardly a massing of any magnatude.
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wizard wrote:Of Course " corkscrew " would say " he did mass ~B~/SUCKIT " they are in CoP, they stick up for eachother
I did mass him you ignorant **Filtered**. Hen had massed my best mates officer, then when the name was thrown at me Barb had bought the account a day eariler...
So dont give me any of that CoP BS.
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So far from what I can read is all the evidence – if you want to call it that is hearsay at best.
For example the two email accounts
mailto:sniffmybum@hotmail.co.uk and mailto:suckit.chris@googlemail.com
the only similarities are s, u, c, @, mail.co
I assume both are male
Similar likes of Chaos and the other servers (maybe)
They both traded.
The sig – you said you ‘remember’ and ask if anyone else remembers
I will admit I like the sig that tells Bill to stay away from the red button. But as you can see I may of remembered it incorrectly.
Lets look at your evidence and use me as an example
Well lets see my email mailto:thicksoz@hotmail.com
Well lets see I have a t, h, i, c, k, s @, mail.co in my email account
I am male
I play Chaos and other servers
I do trades
As for the sig – you said you remember but you don’t seem to have proof. And Barbarian could of seen it and liked it – so decided to use it – like I seen and liked the one about Bill. How many players say something that some else likes and decides to use it as a sig.
And as I said Barbarian could of also liked the quote so he may of included it – I also like it – and if I add it to my sig does that make me more a chance to be Suckit as well?
Damn it that must mean I could be suckit as well.
And I am sure I could go through other peoples email accounts and find similar findings.
All I will say is before anything else is said – all parties should sit back and think before they make further unfounded accusations (as that is what they) until hard evidence can be found.
As to keeping records I am sure Admin has all transactions and ISPs logged in some form of the other.
But then again unless they contact the ISP provider to query who logged into the IP address all they can say is ‘they appear similar’. As my ISP does not give out individual IP address unless you ask for it, and there is a cost involved.
There are also 5 players with suck at the start of their names could they also be suckit?
There are also a total of 20 players that have suck in their names could they be suckit?
Well lets mass them just incase they are even if we don’t have evidence.
But the interesting thing is that Barbarian seems to be located in the Uk and based on what I can see of Suckit’s posts he is located in Australia.
Base on the fact in the forum
he talks about various AFL games (aerial pingpong – or Aussie Rules)
quote from Apollo
How can you say that the Dockers suck when you played for South Fremantle? I mean, OMG, they are the "base" team that BECAME the Dockers!
And Suckit’s reply is
yea i played for them with the will to play for claremont... but it never happned so i stopped... and become a loner lol j/k
http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... c&start=15
A pom would not happen to know these details, Unless of cause he managed to move over to the UK in 1 day.
And looking at various posts of suckit and I don’t seem to be able to see when he had that as a sig.
I can find an example where Barabarian has been in the same thread as Suckit – and it is Barbarian that has used the sig. Could this be where you seem to remember it from
Barbarian has said he isn’t suck it – so unless you can get Admin to confirm they have the same IP address then this matter should be closed.
I could also say that you may be Suckit – cause the best defense is an offense.
So I call on Admin or whoever has the power to check IP address of both Barbarian, Unomosh, Suckit and what the hell why not RobinInDaHood (Nothing against you Robin)
And since I could be suckit as well lets include me to see if my IP is similar to Suckits. Now I am worried cause I have been over in the Uk and logged in there – mmm and if Suckit is Aussie he could have the same IP provider as me.
Just because this is a forum – as it is a electronically recorded forum – it still attracts the same legal responsibilities and requirements and the real world.
I do apologise for the length of this post.
For example the two email accounts
mailto:sniffmybum@hotmail.co.uk and mailto:suckit.chris@googlemail.com
the only similarities are s, u, c, @, mail.co
I assume both are male
Similar likes of Chaos and the other servers (maybe)
They both traded.
The sig – you said you ‘remember’ and ask if anyone else remembers
I will admit I like the sig that tells Bill to stay away from the red button. But as you can see I may of remembered it incorrectly.
Lets look at your evidence and use me as an example
Well lets see my email mailto:thicksoz@hotmail.com
Well lets see I have a t, h, i, c, k, s @, mail.co in my email account
I am male
I play Chaos and other servers
I do trades
As for the sig – you said you remember but you don’t seem to have proof. And Barbarian could of seen it and liked it – so decided to use it – like I seen and liked the one about Bill. How many players say something that some else likes and decides to use it as a sig.
And as I said Barbarian could of also liked the quote so he may of included it – I also like it – and if I add it to my sig does that make me more a chance to be Suckit as well?
Damn it that must mean I could be suckit as well.
And I am sure I could go through other peoples email accounts and find similar findings.
All I will say is before anything else is said – all parties should sit back and think before they make further unfounded accusations (as that is what they) until hard evidence can be found.
As to keeping records I am sure Admin has all transactions and ISPs logged in some form of the other.
But then again unless they contact the ISP provider to query who logged into the IP address all they can say is ‘they appear similar’. As my ISP does not give out individual IP address unless you ask for it, and there is a cost involved.
There are also 5 players with suck at the start of their names could they also be suckit?
There are also a total of 20 players that have suck in their names could they be suckit?
Well lets mass them just incase they are even if we don’t have evidence.
But the interesting thing is that Barbarian seems to be located in the Uk and based on what I can see of Suckit’s posts he is located in Australia.
Base on the fact in the forum
he talks about various AFL games (aerial pingpong – or Aussie Rules)
quote from Apollo
How can you say that the Dockers suck when you played for South Fremantle? I mean, OMG, they are the "base" team that BECAME the Dockers!
And Suckit’s reply is
yea i played for them with the will to play for claremont... but it never happned so i stopped... and become a loner lol j/k
http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... c&start=15
A pom would not happen to know these details, Unless of cause he managed to move over to the UK in 1 day.
And looking at various posts of suckit and I don’t seem to be able to see when he had that as a sig.
I can find an example where Barabarian has been in the same thread as Suckit – and it is Barbarian that has used the sig. Could this be where you seem to remember it from
Barbarian has said he isn’t suck it – so unless you can get Admin to confirm they have the same IP address then this matter should be closed.
I could also say that you may be Suckit – cause the best defense is an offense.
So I call on Admin or whoever has the power to check IP address of both Barbarian, Unomosh, Suckit and what the hell why not RobinInDaHood (Nothing against you Robin)
And since I could be suckit as well lets include me to see if my IP is similar to Suckits. Now I am worried cause I have been over in the Uk and logged in there – mmm and if Suckit is Aussie he could have the same IP provider as me.
Just because this is a forum – as it is a electronically recorded forum – it still attracts the same legal responsibilities and requirements and the real world.
I do apologise for the length of this post.
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thicks wrote:So far from what I can read is all the evidence – if you want to call it that is hearsay at best.
I suppose that for the evidence to be "hard" or "compelling", we'd have to provide a tissue sample from the keyboard that both BARBARIAN and SUCKIT used and through precise carbon dating, be able to show that DNA from the same person was used on the same keyboard during the time that the posts took place on the forums.
Give me a break.In order for this thread to be bogus:
1. Unomosh is making things up.
2. I'm flat out lying when I say that I know that SUCKIT cheated a player I know out of 500K UU.
3. A fake Paypal screen was fabricated with a made-up name and email address to make it look suspiciously like it might be SUCKIT's Paypal account.
4. The game database was hacked and a fake trade broker inserted showing a transfer of 2.5 million UU from BARBARIAN's account on the same day that SUCKIT accepted a Paypal for 3 million UU.
4. A fake in-game email was generated from BARBARIAN explaining why he couldn't complete the transfer of the additional 500K UU after he had already sent 2.5 million UU.
Never mind that the dates all corroborate, the story about what happened is linear and not missing any details, there are compelling screen shots that show what happened, etc, etc, etc.
Believe what you want to believe. As I said previously, maybe BARBARIAN has cleaned up his act since closing down his SUCKIT account and all trades since that time have been above board and legit. I just know that he has previously scammed someone I know and his denial of it makes him a liar as well as a cheat.
Zarakai Kenpachi wrote:robin one other thing the message cant be proved or disproved unless you let someone remote to your machine and watch you go through your or the persons inbox to see it for themselves.
I'll ask about getting that set up. I have an account with GoToMeeting (online meeting software) and could easily host a session where the screens in question could be shown to you or others. I just have to check and see if he's willing and/or able to do so.
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Well Robin – if you read back over my post – I did not refer to your alligation in any way – I was just responded to Unomosh’s original alligations of
same email address – only similarity is a few letters.
Similar quote’s – Unomosh seems to remember – but looking at Suckit’s posts he doesn’t seem to have one. First time that quote is used that I can see is by Barbarian – in a thread that suckit posted in. Please show me where Suckit uses this sig.
Oh give me a break – DNA testing, carbon dating been watching too many cop-shows?
The best evidence in this case as I have said before is IP addresses.
I am sure every single multi has a separate IP account for their different accounts. I can picture it now.
As to dates corrobating things – I have been at/near Sydney International Airport during – 3 or 4 of the last bomb scares – does that make me a suspect?
Until you have proof that Suckit and Barbarian are one and the same – you should stop the slander (as that is what it is).
Again Admin or someone with the ‘rights’ should be asked to look into this as soon as possible.
same email address – only similarity is a few letters.
Similar quote’s – Unomosh seems to remember – but looking at Suckit’s posts he doesn’t seem to have one. First time that quote is used that I can see is by Barbarian – in a thread that suckit posted in. Please show me where Suckit uses this sig.
Oh give me a break – DNA testing, carbon dating been watching too many cop-shows?
The best evidence in this case as I have said before is IP addresses.
I am sure every single multi has a separate IP account for their different accounts. I can picture it now.
As to dates corrobating things – I have been at/near Sydney International Airport during – 3 or 4 of the last bomb scares – does that make me a suspect?
Until you have proof that Suckit and Barbarian are one and the same – you should stop the slander (as that is what it is).
Again Admin or someone with the ‘rights’ should be asked to look into this as soon as possible.
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RobinInDahood wrote:I'll ask about getting that set up. I have an account with GoToMeeting (online meeting software) and could easily host a session where the screens in question could be shown to you or others. I just have to check and see if he's willing and/or able to do so.
thanks man, and can you also get a picture of the broker barbarian sent to unomosh too please.
even with this its still hard to finger barbarian as a cheat because the email addresses arent the same.
**nothing against you barabrian but if we are going to clear your name and get an apology then we need everyones FULL side of the story and all evidence provided by both sides.**
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Ill always remember my fellow Irishman
Ill always remember my fellow Irishman
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Its time for me to be a man about this.... sooner rather than later...
YES i was suckit...
I first got into the game around 10 months ago when i started playing Chaos... i really likes the game and the format... and did very well so decided to give Main a go...
i started an account, then bought one which was pretty good, with 1 million amry size, which was suckit..
I was very new to the game, and all i wanted was rank 1 i was fascinated by the game and just climbing ranks as quick as i possibly could.. and this meant useing the market, which i did use honestly on nearly all occasions.. but i under the name of SUCKIT i scammed i tottal of 4 ppl, i was scammed myself 2wice but this isnt the point here...
Now after realising that the game wasnt all about rank 1 and was never ending as the game goes on forever and ever so theres never really a winner just a leader... Then i grew to really like the game and make alot of friends and realsied that my past had let me down.. and started a fresh.. As BARBARIAN.
now first point... the uu trade that i mentioned is the one i feel very guilty about... as yes we did agree 3million units.. and i only ever sent 2.5 million units... I must very much appologise for this as then i was suckit and was looking for a clean break as only had 2.8 million due to been massed and such. No excuse i know and all shal lbe refunded to this person...
2nd Unomosh... i didnt really scam u as such but i will explain, u paid 700k uu as u wanted my old account before i went to barbarian and bought the account of Hensenshi... i even gave u my ascension details for the account, but when i bought the account i deleted the old without thinking as didnt want to be a multi... Iam sorry, and in turn.. i will also replace what i owe in either $$$$$$$$ or the uu as i know your looking for an account...
2 others i scammed i cant rememebrt hen but they were very much less serious.. and was in retalitation to been scammed but again no excuse...
after these incidents i thought i was ok, and continued to play as BARBARIAN as a 100% honest player i definatly had learned from my mistakes.. as BARBARIAN, i have made over 129 trades, (as per my market) and every single one has been honest and fair...
many i have traded for cash and they will also say i am now hoenst KGC, Profiteroles, Corkscrew,Raven, Legoless, Hensenshi... many will know ive traded with them for resources and been fair... again i wil lsay i leanr t from my mistakes... But i shouldnt have made them firstly.. i know that now but was very much to late..
I also shud have said as soon as this topic came up the truth and nothing but the truth, but as ive stated wit hthe rrade for unomosh i thougth it more a mistake rather than a scam... but i can see without replacing the uu it was a scam...
I NEED TO KNOW APOLOGISE TO ALL THE COMMUNITY, that i have come to love, hate, mass, been massed, everything to do with it i very much love...
I would most off all like to apologise to Unomosh and the chap i owe the 500k uu to... i let you guys down, and Robindahood, as i shouldnt have denied these claims at all and should have been a man about it... i just didnt want to lose my respect which i thin kive earned and friends also...
my current account i have spent well 250$ buying it and around 350$$$ on resources as corky kgc and raven will also say, that much shows how passionate i am... also bought around 8 USS on all servers... 400$$$
but again no exuse for my old actions as suckit..
i was caught, yes im not happy aboput all this but maybe slightly relieved that ow i can maybe true and move on and earn my respect again, but hell i have to wait and see...
I AM VERY VERY SORRY TO THE WHOLE COMMUNTIY... I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN, AS I HATE SCAMMERS NOW AS DO WE ALL, BUT MY PAST CANT ESCAPE ME..
I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL LEARN TO FORGIVE AS I BELIEVE YOU WILL ALL AGREE I AM PASSED THOSE DAYS AND MATURED AS A PLAYER..
TO THE POSTERS ON HEAR STICKING UP FOR ME SORRY TO THOSE WHO CREATED IT AND ROBIN THX AS WELL, MAYBE I CAN MOVE ON..
MY DEFENCE IS THERE TO BE DESTROYED BY ALL WHO FEEL I NEED A GOOD TELLING OFF WHICH I AGREE I DO... I AM VERY UPSET AT THE MOMENT, YOU MUST BELIEVE I AM VERY SORRY, AND UOPSET, AT BEEN A SCAMMER IN THE PAST AND MY HONOUR BEEN TARNISHED..
IF U GUYS KICK ME FROM ALPHS I DESERVE IT.. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MASS ME I DESERVE THAT TO,
FOR NOW I SHALL GO HANG MY HEAD IN SHAME...
SORRY TO U ALL... i shall not be visiting forums much ion next few days as i feel ashamed.. and so i should do... but i hope u guys n ladies can learn to forgive me..
unomosh pm me with what u would like in return...
and robin please tell me is that guy still called princess ummit i shal lsend the uu..
~BARBARIAN~
YES i was suckit...
I first got into the game around 10 months ago when i started playing Chaos... i really likes the game and the format... and did very well so decided to give Main a go...
i started an account, then bought one which was pretty good, with 1 million amry size, which was suckit..
I was very new to the game, and all i wanted was rank 1 i was fascinated by the game and just climbing ranks as quick as i possibly could.. and this meant useing the market, which i did use honestly on nearly all occasions.. but i under the name of SUCKIT i scammed i tottal of 4 ppl, i was scammed myself 2wice but this isnt the point here...
Now after realising that the game wasnt all about rank 1 and was never ending as the game goes on forever and ever so theres never really a winner just a leader... Then i grew to really like the game and make alot of friends and realsied that my past had let me down.. and started a fresh.. As BARBARIAN.
now first point... the uu trade that i mentioned is the one i feel very guilty about... as yes we did agree 3million units.. and i only ever sent 2.5 million units... I must very much appologise for this as then i was suckit and was looking for a clean break as only had 2.8 million due to been massed and such. No excuse i know and all shal lbe refunded to this person...
2nd Unomosh... i didnt really scam u as such but i will explain, u paid 700k uu as u wanted my old account before i went to barbarian and bought the account of Hensenshi... i even gave u my ascension details for the account, but when i bought the account i deleted the old without thinking as didnt want to be a multi... Iam sorry, and in turn.. i will also replace what i owe in either $$$$$$$$ or the uu as i know your looking for an account...
2 others i scammed i cant rememebrt hen but they were very much less serious.. and was in retalitation to been scammed but again no excuse...
after these incidents i thought i was ok, and continued to play as BARBARIAN as a 100% honest player i definatly had learned from my mistakes.. as BARBARIAN, i have made over 129 trades, (as per my market) and every single one has been honest and fair...
many i have traded for cash and they will also say i am now hoenst KGC, Profiteroles, Corkscrew,Raven, Legoless, Hensenshi... many will know ive traded with them for resources and been fair... again i wil lsay i leanr t from my mistakes... But i shouldnt have made them firstly.. i know that now but was very much to late..
I also shud have said as soon as this topic came up the truth and nothing but the truth, but as ive stated wit hthe rrade for unomosh i thougth it more a mistake rather than a scam... but i can see without replacing the uu it was a scam...
I NEED TO KNOW APOLOGISE TO ALL THE COMMUNITY, that i have come to love, hate, mass, been massed, everything to do with it i very much love...
I would most off all like to apologise to Unomosh and the chap i owe the 500k uu to... i let you guys down, and Robindahood, as i shouldnt have denied these claims at all and should have been a man about it... i just didnt want to lose my respect which i thin kive earned and friends also...
my current account i have spent well 250$ buying it and around 350$$$ on resources as corky kgc and raven will also say, that much shows how passionate i am... also bought around 8 USS on all servers... 400$$$
but again no exuse for my old actions as suckit..
i was caught, yes im not happy aboput all this but maybe slightly relieved that ow i can maybe true and move on and earn my respect again, but hell i have to wait and see...
I AM VERY VERY SORRY TO THE WHOLE COMMUNTIY... I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN, AS I HATE SCAMMERS NOW AS DO WE ALL, BUT MY PAST CANT ESCAPE ME..
I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL LEARN TO FORGIVE AS I BELIEVE YOU WILL ALL AGREE I AM PASSED THOSE DAYS AND MATURED AS A PLAYER..
TO THE POSTERS ON HEAR STICKING UP FOR ME SORRY TO THOSE WHO CREATED IT AND ROBIN THX AS WELL, MAYBE I CAN MOVE ON..
MY DEFENCE IS THERE TO BE DESTROYED BY ALL WHO FEEL I NEED A GOOD TELLING OFF WHICH I AGREE I DO... I AM VERY UPSET AT THE MOMENT, YOU MUST BELIEVE I AM VERY SORRY, AND UOPSET, AT BEEN A SCAMMER IN THE PAST AND MY HONOUR BEEN TARNISHED..
IF U GUYS KICK ME FROM ALPHS I DESERVE IT.. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MASS ME I DESERVE THAT TO,
FOR NOW I SHALL GO HANG MY HEAD IN SHAME...
SORRY TO U ALL... i shall not be visiting forums much ion next few days as i feel ashamed.. and so i should do... but i hope u guys n ladies can learn to forgive me..
unomosh pm me with what u would like in return...
and robin please tell me is that guy still called princess ummit i shal lsend the uu..
~BARBARIAN~
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I dont know what to say at this moment because i did not know about SUCKIT and all the story! I just want to confirm that i knew that suckit was the one who was scammed in the past! He tried to buy account in main and me and Zhar barrow him big sum of naq to buy account and that guy did not respected a deal so the naq just vanished! That is not an exscuse for his actions but also i can confirm that ~BARBARIAN~ has played this game in best manner and he even become friend of mine! I know how passionate player he is! Also he proved that he is honoured man by telling to everybody his story and i know that he deserves to be part of SGW community! He deserves that more than those who have multis and steal planets but there is no way to catch them because they use different IP adresses!
No matter how this finish he is a good guy who made a mistake and realize that! Other people dont accept their illegal actions as unacceptable and continue to do so! Barbarian is clear account and fair player in SGW! It would be always best for us as a community to accept less SUCKITs and more ~BARBARIAN~s in this game!
No matter how this finish he is a good guy who made a mistake and realize that! Other people dont accept their illegal actions as unacceptable and continue to do so! Barbarian is clear account and fair player in SGW! It would be always best for us as a community to accept less SUCKITs and more ~BARBARIAN~s in this game!
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IMO if anyone masses ~BARBARIAN~ then it will affect his ability to make reperations to those who were scammed, think about that before anyone takes action.
It takes alot of courage to make the confession that he has made, this has happened in the past with other players and they have gone on to be respectible players.
I suggest that the future of ~BARBARIAN~ be left to the leaders of his alliance,
It takes alot of courage to make the confession that he has made, this has happened in the past with other players and they have gone on to be respectible players.
I suggest that the future of ~BARBARIAN~ be left to the leaders of his alliance,
