"You have to earn my respect"

[Mr GoodKat]

I heard this phrase today, and it got me thinking.

An ideology of ‘I don’t give respect freely. You have to earn my respect.’ is quite big on the forums. In my personal experiance of life, this is uttered most often by punks and people so up themselves you couldn't get thier head out their arse with a nuke.

Disclaimer: Did you find that last bit offensive in anyway? If you did; cry me a river and gag me.

My question is; How egotistical does one have to be to instantly assume that their respect is so valuable that you should bend over backwards for it? Now, this part may shock some of you, but why don't we give people, with feelings and lives just as important as our own a default amount of respect?

How about a default level of respect as soon as we meet them, and this is the thing that can be lost with actions.

The idea that that one must win basic respect in the first place is incredibly belittling. How narcissistic can you be to embrace that ideology?

This thread is open for discussion of my opinion, your opinion, whether it be the same or the exact opposite, and anything else you would like to add.

[Teioh]

Mikey <3

[Kit-Fox]

Everyone should have to earn respect of everyone else by how they treat them and interact with them.

I've noticed tho that people seem to confuse respect with manners. You sohuld always be polite to someone even if you dont respect them or even if you hate them. Manners maketh the man.

Respect shouldnt be given freely, but politeness should be.

[Mr GoodKat]

Everyone should have to earn respect of everyone else by how they treat them and interact with them.

I've noticed tho that people seem to confuse respect with manners. You sohuld always be polite to someone even if you dont respect them or even if you hate them. Manners maketh the man.

Respect shouldnt be given freely, but politeness should be.

In your opinion; Why must respect be earned? Why can't it be given freely, and then lost through actions?

Mikey <3

Louis <3<3<3

[[DDE] Bastion]

I personally think that its just how you are. Some give it freely then they lose it, and some demand that the other party earns it 1st. I'm in the 2nd group

[Kit-Fox]

Well what kind of respect do you mean? Respect as a fellow human being and being treated like one is in my view manners and being polite so should be given freely.

Respect as a player or member of the community of sgw should be earned by your actions & words and just as equally lost by the same

[Mr GoodKat]

Everyday respect i mean. Where you treat them as they were your friend, regardless whether you've spoken to them before. They then loose this respect via actions they do.

Respect as a player or member of the community of sgw should be earned by your actions & words and just as equally lost by the same

I personally think that its just how you are. Some give it freely then they lose it, and some demand that the other party earns it 1st. I'm in the 2nd group

My point here is; Why must someone toss your salad in order for people to respect him? It's basically like me calling someone a racial name, and then saying they have to brown nose me so i can respect them enough to use their real name.

[Munchy]

For me, the first time I talk to anyone I give them the benifit of the doubt, no matter what I have heard of them from others. This includes respect on some level. If they act the way they have been described and they loose it, then they must earn it back, which is far harder task to do than to lose it in the first place.

[[DDE] Bastion]

eeeh you took me the wrong way. Every life is more precious than my own - that I agree with. But for actions ingame, because its a GAME, its different for me. They have to earn it in this GAME

[TheSoulHarvester]

I heard this phrase today, and it got me thinking.

An ideology of ‘I don’t give respect freely. You have to earn my respect.’ is quite big on the forums. In my personal experiance of life, this is uttered most often by punks and people so up themselves you couldn't get thier head out their arse with a nuke.

Disclaimer: Did you find that last bit offensive in anyway? If you did; cry me a river and gag me.

My question is; How egotistical does one have to be to instantly assume that their respect is so valuable that you should bend over backwards for it? Now, this part may shock some of you, but why don't we give people, with feelings and lives just as important as our own a default amount of respect?

How about a default level of respect as soon as we meet them, and this is the thing that can be lost with actions.

The idea that that one must win basic respect in the first place is incredibly belittling. How narcissistic can you be to embrace that ideology?

This thread is open for discussion of my opinion, your opinion, whether it be the same or the exact opposite, and anything else you would like to add.

i give a certain amount of respect to every new guy(girl i meet online or offline, however, their further actions decide wether that respect stays or diminishes. i am however not flawless and i do sometimes go over the top due to my own difficult personality :p

however i tend to apologize those worthy in my eyes of apology. (worthy determined by a persons actions in the same way as respect)

i consider myself with good manners in RL. i am however constantly distracted so i do forget manners and much of the RL completely. (pain of a creative person eh?) but i do control myself and have achieved much in the field of self control and temper towards others, this in turn has raised my level of "default" respect towards others.

Everyone should have to earn respect of everyone else by how they treat them and interact with them.

I've noticed tho that people seem to confuse respect with manners. You sohuld always be polite to someone even if you dont respect them or even if you hate them. Manners maketh the man.

Respect shouldnt be given freely, but politeness should be.

i feel ya! but its tough to be polite esp to those You know have done wrong. but i generally choose to ignore such people until they realize their mistake and have done actions to remedy it...

this brings me to another subject i MUST post in the cheaters section about myself... im drunk so im REAL open atm...

[Mr GoodKat]

eeeh you took me the wrong way. Every life is more precious than my own - that I agree with. But for actions ingame, because its a GAME, its different for me. They have to earn it in this GAME

I am speaking gamewise here. It'll just be a bonus if someone takes this into practice in real life.

Munchy has the right idea.

People SHOULD give people a default amount of respect. They either gain more or loose it. But they never have to gain a basic amount in the first place.

How egotistical do people have to be to think that their respect is so great it has to be earned through hard work?

[Kit-Fox]

Hmmm this is a difficult one to pin down i think. I'm not saying that someone should jump through hoops for me to respect them as a human or for me to treat them as such. That is being polite in my book

Within the game tho if someone carries out an action then comes and posts bragging about what they have done, why should i respect their actions? Simply because they did it? They should have to earn respect as a player and by doing so integrate themselves into the community and learn the rules and traditions of the community.

I'm not entirely sure i'm getting my ideas across that well, always did have a problem with conveying ideas in text.

[Mr GoodKat]

Hmmm this is a difficult one to pin down i think. I'm not saying that someone should jump through hoops for me to respect them as a human or for me to treat them as such. That is being polite in my book

Within the game tho if someone carries out an action then comes and posts bragging about what they have done, why should i respect their actions? Simply because they did it? They should have to earn respect as a player and by doing so integrate themselves into the community and learn the rules and traditions of the community.

I'm not entirely sure i'm getting my ideas across that well, always did have a problem with conveying ideas in text.

I'm kinda feeling you here.

What i'm trying to say is you should respect someone, even basically, straight away. Their actions dictate which way your respect goes. People who go "You have to earn my respect" need to get their head out of their own arse, and GIVE people respect. They can withdraw that if the person commits an action they disagree with. But they don't need to earn it from the go.

[Kit-Fox]

I think your idea of this base level of respect is the same as my be polite to everyone. Yes they can earn more and those that do you get closer to and become friends with but those that dont you just are polite too, in my view. even for ingame actions.

ie being polite is treating them as a human. even for ingame stuff as at the end of the day its human at the other pc doing it. but that dont mean you have to be nice to them if they arent ncie back. just polite.

EDIT: you know what now i'm getting confused.

I am reminded of the line from sg-1 when daniel 'dies' & is talking to oma tho. 'there is only one thing we can really control, that is whether we are good or evil'

[Mr GoodKat]

I think your idea of this base level of respect is the same as my be polite to everyone. Yes they can earn more and those that do you get closer to and become friends with but those that dont you just are polite too, in my view. even for ingame actions.

ie being polite is treating them as a human. even for ingame stuff as at the end of the day its human at the other pc doing it. but that dont mean you have to be nice to them if they arent ncie back. just polite.

If you think about it, you are polite to those you respect. So you must be polite to everyone, with my theory. This is your way of showing respect. Not flashing the fact that you could beat them ingame, or belittling them with the fact they have to earn your respect.