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It is everytime bad when elitism come to any game.
Bryan is in the same situation as looky and mohamed.
When I was on Admin position and use his "logic" I will delete Bryan and Mohamed and restore Looky.
Why? Because I know Looky as good, fair and honorable player and dont know Bryan.
It is good solution?
Realy NOT!!!
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Admin can also made pool and ask - whyt will you do if you find guy with 20mils UU open and no defense?
And then delete every player who vote yes.
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As I understand situation
1. Test acc has been hacked.
- Existence of test with big amount of resources is first security hole - admin can easily reset this account everytime he leaves it.
2. Probably easy password - another security hole
3. Block affected account for investigation ASAP
- good solution.
rest solutions are really bad and decrease level of this game. Why play it? When you found a good farm - hmm can i raid him or I will be deleted because of bug? Im really dissapointed about it and it is not first time.
Hey, Admin. I know this game is mainly for free. I know You work hard and long time to bring us fun. But players who are deleted are probably innocent. And they also spend alot of time with your game, made relationships and friends. And now - it is lost. And the most painfull is - it is lost because of unlucky accident and your security mistake.
Is It Fair????
Delete them resources they got by bug and refund them is fair.
But if you has NO proof than it is not FAIR.
You can do that because of your rights and game rules, but you should not do that if your priority is justice and this community of players instead of "seeking any victim to excuse your own mistake."
I still hope you will see truth in my words because Im sure most of us share them.
Because everyone of us can be next "Looky" just because we will found lucky target.
Bryan is in the same situation as looky and mohamed.
When I was on Admin position and use his "logic" I will delete Bryan and Mohamed and restore Looky.
Why? Because I know Looky as good, fair and honorable player and dont know Bryan.
It is good solution?
Realy NOT!!!
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Admin can also made pool and ask - whyt will you do if you find guy with 20mils UU open and no defense?
And then delete every player who vote yes.
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As I understand situation
1. Test acc has been hacked.
- Existence of test with big amount of resources is first security hole - admin can easily reset this account everytime he leaves it.
2. Probably easy password - another security hole
3. Block affected account for investigation ASAP
- good solution.
rest solutions are really bad and decrease level of this game. Why play it? When you found a good farm - hmm can i raid him or I will be deleted because of bug? Im really dissapointed about it and it is not first time.
Hey, Admin. I know this game is mainly for free. I know You work hard and long time to bring us fun. But players who are deleted are probably innocent. And they also spend alot of time with your game, made relationships and friends. And now - it is lost. And the most painfull is - it is lost because of unlucky accident and your security mistake.
Is It Fair????
Delete them resources they got by bug and refund them is fair.
But if you has NO proof than it is not FAIR.
You can do that because of your rights and game rules, but you should not do that if your priority is justice and this community of players instead of "seeking any victim to excuse your own mistake."
I still hope you will see truth in my words because Im sure most of us share them.
Because everyone of us can be next "Looky" just because we will found lucky target.
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looky was my officer when he raided this guy (excess force or something mod it out if you like) i was curious about how much UU he took per attack so i checked his log (as a CO i have the right to do this:D)
and i can assure you that he found the guy by chance. i say this because he raided several pages before he found this guy so it must be a coincidence
and i can assure you that he found the guy by chance. i say this because he raided several pages before he found this guy so it must be a coincidence
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Ra wrote:looky was my officer when he raided this guy (excess force or something mod it out if you like) i was curious about how much UU he took per attack so i checked his log (as a CO i have the right to do this:D)
and i can assure you that he found the guy by chance. i say this because he raided several pages before he found this guy so it must be a coincidence
thx for posting here mate,Ra has the proof that proves that looky didnt know about the acount and raided other targets before,i think admin should see the attack logs of Ra,that means that looky can get back his acount,he is inocent
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I wud like to post tht mohamed is my friend from a long time now and i can see tht he wont cheat and he never will....... i think there is a misunderstanding by the admins.... they shud see to his problem...they shud not just put him in trouble
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Everyone must understand that what Forums saw is some accounts get massive accounts of uu, than other accounts started raiding them almost at the same moment... It could be a coincidence, but he deleted all those accounts on sight. Nowt that we see at least 2 of them wasnt a cheater, i think he may reconsider things. Just give him time, and understand that he is upset... this hacking and cheating was above all previous ones... im upset too...
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lissen it has been two days or maybe 3days to this incident so i think if he takes mre time those two account will leave this game (looky and mohamed....)
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predators wrote:lissen it has been two days or maybe 3days to this incident so i think if he takes mre time those two account will leave this game (looky and mohamed....)
yes you are right,believe it or not,i would put my hand inot fire for these,coincidence happens and this is one of them,i understand admin,because this is a really big coincidence but he should try to sort things out and do it by:
Shot first by deleting the acounts and then ask questions which include information and proof that it was just a coincidence
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I have something to say aswell.I was playing this game for more than a year.
Last sommer I was banned for farming someone who had lots of Naq on hand.I was at the wrong place at the wrong time.After that I wanted to end wit sgwars.I didn't play for a month,but then I started.Not just because It was a game,but because I had lot of friends here.That ostrasation from the admins wasn't fair!But I have forgived them for that.But what they done to Looky and Mohamed,that's just something that make's me mad.Not just because it remainds me of my situation.But mostly because they spend most of they're time developing they're acounts.And they lostit all.Just because they were at the wrong place the wrong time.
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Last sommer I was banned for farming someone who had lots of Naq on hand.I was at the wrong place at the wrong time.After that I wanted to end wit sgwars.I didn't play for a month,but then I started.Not just because It was a game,but because I had lot of friends here.That ostrasation from the admins wasn't fair!But I have forgived them for that.But what they done to Looky and Mohamed,that's just something that make's me mad.Not just because it remainds me of my situation.But mostly because they spend most of they're time developing they're acounts.And they lostit all.Just because they were at the wrong place the wrong time.
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S T I wrote:[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:Cause unpopular players don't get the same courtesy as popular players
will thats what I get from SGWs community anyways
god its becoming more and more like my high school....
The account named J1mbow was first noticed by players ingame, then recons were made of this player,then a strike team was set up, to deal with this account, (plus forum had been sent messages about this account)
Bryan was part of this team, he used raid as a way to take this accounts defence out. so there was no cheating on his part. This is why he has been cleared.
Bryan was too high ranked to use raid to mass j1mbo. It was some other issue that caused his banning because I used raid to kill j1mbo's defenders.
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Well. I wanted to be the first one on this thread but it seems like my bro has taken the pleasure...
What can I say? With all do respect, I know that admin has a lot of work to do, while running this game and we appreciate it, because he brings us this great game. S I thank him for it. But - he is only human and people do make mistakes. Want a proof? Here is one...although admin has ways to investigate all the cheating and stuff like that, he has made a mistale, becasue he ahs banned three people in one day and none of them deserved it. That happened last wednesday. Few days have passsed and of those thre guys, Bryan got out of it, though he has lost all of his planets AFAIK and who knows what else. Seems like the things could turn out in a good way...so we move on another day or two and what happens? the other two players find theyr accounts deleted
TBH, I didint expect something like that. Admin (though not th right one) has received several messages, from many players saying that none of them is a cheater and none of them should be banned (or deleted). Admin should be aware of this fact and remove the bann from all of the accounts. But that didnt happen...why?
All I wanted to say is, that if admin investigates, he should investigate all the accounts the same way, not comparing them and definitely not to make a judgment on a popularity basis. I know that there are many peopl behind Bryan, OfC, he deserves it for being a good players (LOL, one of the best there is) and for being active both ingame and forum. And everybody knows that it would be great loss for SGW community if his account was deleted. Its because people here knew about his problem and standed behind him and supported him. But what about Looky and Mohamed? They play this game, they love the game, they enjoy it. They dont visit the forums...
All I wanted to say that theyr deletion would also be a loss to our community, same as in Bryans case, as they are both a part of it, same as B, though less known. But still - known to at least a few. For example me. i remember me bringing Looky to the game, we have kinda grown up together ingame as we have learned to support each other and become more independent then in the begining...same thing happened also in r/l. Thats how I know he wouldnt cheat...
So please, admin, run another investigation and you will find out that they should get all the stuff they had before this S*** happened...its all they want. Because same as you have dedicated time to make this game run, they have dedicated their time to make their accounts a better part of this game.
Thank you
What can I say? With all do respect, I know that admin has a lot of work to do, while running this game and we appreciate it, because he brings us this great game. S I thank him for it. But - he is only human and people do make mistakes. Want a proof? Here is one...although admin has ways to investigate all the cheating and stuff like that, he has made a mistale, becasue he ahs banned three people in one day and none of them deserved it. That happened last wednesday. Few days have passsed and of those thre guys, Bryan got out of it, though he has lost all of his planets AFAIK and who knows what else. Seems like the things could turn out in a good way...so we move on another day or two and what happens? the other two players find theyr accounts deleted
TBH, I didint expect something like that. Admin (though not th right one) has received several messages, from many players saying that none of them is a cheater and none of them should be banned (or deleted). Admin should be aware of this fact and remove the bann from all of the accounts. But that didnt happen...why?
All I wanted to say is, that if admin investigates, he should investigate all the accounts the same way, not comparing them and definitely not to make a judgment on a popularity basis. I know that there are many peopl behind Bryan, OfC, he deserves it for being a good players (LOL, one of the best there is) and for being active both ingame and forum. And everybody knows that it would be great loss for SGW community if his account was deleted. Its because people here knew about his problem and standed behind him and supported him. But what about Looky and Mohamed? They play this game, they love the game, they enjoy it. They dont visit the forums...
All I wanted to say that theyr deletion would also be a loss to our community, same as in Bryans case, as they are both a part of it, same as B, though less known. But still - known to at least a few. For example me. i remember me bringing Looky to the game, we have kinda grown up together ingame as we have learned to support each other and become more independent then in the begining...same thing happened also in r/l. Thats how I know he wouldnt cheat...
So please, admin, run another investigation and you will find out that they should get all the stuff they had before this S*** happened...its all they want. Because same as you have dedicated time to make this game run, they have dedicated their time to make their accounts a better part of this game.
Thank you
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[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:Cause unpopular players don't get the same courtesy as popular players
will thats what I get from SGWs community anyways
god its becoming more and more like my high school....
No matter how many times i think of it...there is no other conclusions i can draw from why the other 2 didn't get the same courtesy as Bryan....
so unless some1 can enlighten me i'm opened to other opinions
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[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:Cause unpopular players don't get the same courtesy as popular players
will thats what I get from SGWs community anyways
god its becoming more and more like my high school....
No matter how many times i think of it...there is no other conclusions i can draw from why the other 2 didn't get the same courtesy as Bryan....
so unless some1 can enlighten me i'm opened to other opinions
Evidence suggests that bryan's account was hacked, not that he coincidentally raided an account.