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Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
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~Phoenix~ wrote:About the CS, it would take me 2days income to get it to over 300bil in both attack and defense at thsi current stage. It would take me 4weeks to get just my defense to that point.

its 100% overpowered, and I can garentee if it was put in like this, it would take a big chunk out of the skill in ascended.


MS/CS is SUPPOSED to be much more powerfull than your defence/attack is, at least in series....

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In series? You mean TV? We dont have this on tv its all made up. And jsut take a look at main, MS there aint much more powerfull.

Its our command star it should be strong yes.. however not THAT strong.. it would destabalize the whole game.


Command Star can only add so much to your strike/defense. :? I fail to see how it could destabilize the game.



Atm it can add 99%. or atleast thats about the highest I got mine to add. We may aswell double strike and defese full stop, the whole idea is stupid its ment to add like 1/4 of the power to your atk/defense for around the same cost, toerhwise its completly stupid. Yes you can argue for it but that doesnt change the fact its that its silly.

Honestly, you might aswell keep it really weak and double everyones attack and defense.
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Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
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Neimenljivi wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:About the CS, it would take me 2days income to get it to over 300bil in both attack and defense at thsi current stage. It would take me 4weeks to get just my defense to that point.

its 100% overpowered, and I can garentee if it was put in like this, it would take a big chunk out of the skill in ascended.


MS/CS is SUPPOSED to be much more powerfull than your defence/attack is, at least in series....

~Neimenljivi


In series? You mean TV? We dont have this on tv its all made up. And jsut take a look at main, MS there aint much more powerfull.

Its our command star it should be strong yes.. however not THAT strong.. it would destabalize the whole game.


Command Star can only add so much to your strike/defense. :? I fail to see how it could destabilize the game.



I agree with u, Hensenshi, and with you Pheonix that CS is Command Star afterall and should be strong. Look, if we all get 1000% boost at it it is good. Your enemy (I'm refering to top guys, no offence big boys ;-) ) has to have his CS Attack STRONGER than your WHOLE CS is that he will add SOMETHING to his attack. Don't forget that sheilds are stronger than volleys are. So those who have 150 bil strike and are fighting against somebody with let's say 500 bil total CS. If they want to add 150 bil to attack they have to have 650 bil ATTACK ON CS. This isn't a penut (sorry cause I spelled it wrong :oops: ) for them eighter. My bro was testing a theory in development server. He has 1.1k sheilds and 1k volleys on his CS and it's # 15. I know there's a big gap between his and Mojo's CS but still...If Mojo attacks middranked player I dubt he will need his CS to win a battle against middranked player...

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Neimenljivi wrote:
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:About the CS, it would take me 2days income to get it to over 300bil in both attack and defense at thsi current stage. It would take me 4weeks to get just my defense to that point.

its 100% overpowered, and I can garentee if it was put in like this, it would take a big chunk out of the skill in ascended.


MS/CS is SUPPOSED to be much more powerfull than your defence/attack is, at least in series....

~Neimenljivi


In series? You mean TV? We dont have this on tv its all made up. And jsut take a look at main, MS there aint much more powerfull.

Its our command star it should be strong yes.. however not THAT strong.. it would destabalize the whole game.


Command Star can only add so much to your strike/defense. :? I fail to see how it could destabilize the game.



I agree with u, Hensenshi, and with you Pheonix that CS is Command Star afterall and should be strong. Look, if we all get 1000% boost at it it is good. Your enemy (I'm refering to top guys, no offence big boys ;-) ) has to have his CS Attack STRONGER than your WHOLE CS is that he will add SOMETHING to his attack. Don't forget that sheilds are stronger than volleys are. So those who have 150 bil strike and are fighting against somebody with let's say 500 bil total CS. If they want to add 150 bil to attack they have to have 650 bil ATTACK ON CS. This isn't a penut (sorry cause I spelled it wrong :oops: ) for them eighter. My bro was testing a theory in development server. He has 1.1k sheilds and 1k volleys on his CS and it's # 15. I know there's a big gap between his and Mojo's CS but still...If Mojo attacks middranked player I dubt he will need his CS to win a battle against middranked player...

~Neimenljivi


How much it adds will basically be pointless as time goes on because it'll be come cheaper to buy strike then add to your CS. Much like Motherships have become in main. 1000x just means that it'll last a lot longer.
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Neimenljivi wrote:
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:
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Neimenljivi wrote:
~Phoenix~ wrote:About the CS, it would take me 2days income to get it to over 300bil in both attack and defense at thsi current stage. It would take me 4weeks to get just my defense to that point.

its 100% overpowered, and I can garentee if it was put in like this, it would take a big chunk out of the skill in ascended.


MS/CS is SUPPOSED to be much more powerfull than your defence/attack is, at least in series....

~Neimenljivi


In series? You mean TV? We dont have this on tv its all made up. And jsut take a look at main, MS there aint much more powerfull.

Its our command star it should be strong yes.. however not THAT strong.. it would destabalize the whole game.


Command Star can only add so much to your strike/defense. :? I fail to see how it could destabilize the game.



I agree with u, Hensenshi, and with you Pheonix that CS is Command Star afterall and should be strong. Look, if we all get 1000% boost at it it is good. Your enemy (I'm refering to top guys, no offence big boys ;-) ) has to have his CS Attack STRONGER than your WHOLE CS is that he will add SOMETHING to his attack. Don't forget that sheilds are stronger than volleys are. So those who have 150 bil strike and are fighting against somebody with let's say 500 bil total CS. If they want to add 150 bil to attack they have to have 650 bil ATTACK ON CS. This isn't a penut (sorry cause I spelled it wrong :oops: ) for them eighter. My bro was testing a theory in development server. He has 1.1k sheilds and 1k volleys on his CS and it's # 15. I know there's a big gap between his and Mojo's CS but still...If Mojo attacks middranked player I dubt he will need his CS to win a battle against middranked player...

~Neimenljivi
ur MS is ranked 15th only cause:
1. not so many ppl play beta ascended
2. there was not that big need for MSs

as for the MSs>> if some1 100 times bigger income, he can easily build a MS, that can pass your whole MS
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samson1111 wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:I agree with u, Hensenshi, and with you Pheonix that CS is Command Star afterall and should be strong. Look, if we all get 1000% boost at it it is good. Your enemy (I'm refering to top guys, no offence big boys ;-) ) has to have his CS Attack STRONGER than your WHOLE CS is that he will add SOMETHING to his attack. Don't forget that sheilds are stronger than volleys are. So those who have 150 bil strike and are fighting against somebody with let's say 500 bil total CS. If they want to add 150 bil to attack they have to have 650 bil ATTACK ON CS. This isn't a penut (sorry cause I spelled it wrong :oops: ) for them eighter. My bro was testing a theory in development server. He has 1.1k sheilds and 1k volleys on his CS and it's # 15. I know there's a big gap between his and Mojo's CS but still...If Mojo attacks middranked player I dubt he will need his CS to win a battle against middranked player...

~Neimenljivi
ur MS is ranked 15th only cause:
1. not so many ppl play beta ascended
2. there was not that big need for MSs

as for the MSs>> if some1 100 times bigger income, he can easily build a MS, that can pass your whole MS


Please read more carefully, I said it was my brothers CS cause we were testing a theory. I know it's easy to get such cause not many ppl play beta ascended server but everyone had his CS same as on ascended server but 1000 stronger. So with 1000 volleys and 1100 sheilds your CS would be on ascended #15 approx.

Hope that clears out...

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samson1111 wrote:as for the MSs>> if some1 100 times bigger income, he can easily build a MS, that can pass your whole MS


Well done you've cracked the game, no need for us to play anymore.

There will be someone bigger so no need to worry about tweaking updates! Letes just plan for 2years in the future.
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fremen wrote:Ston: are you and any others hit with this bug having similar issues?


well on my side it recovered at full flow rate again when i my normal LF was maxed out. (i think thats how its intended to be)

but im glad im not the only one encountering this problem, so it will probably be fixed quicker- esp cause its more important then any command star upgrade :wink:
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Ston wrote:
fremen wrote:Ston: are you and any others hit with this bug having similar issues?


well on my side it recovered at full flow rate again when i my normal LF was maxed out. (i think thats how its intended to be)

but im glad im not the only one encountering this problem, so it will probably be fixed quicker- esp cause its more important then any command star upgrade :wink:



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i'm back :)
chaos launch was good... took 2 days longer than i expected, plus 2 more to ensure all was good/bugs fixed.

ok - i will read through all this tomorrow, fix bugs, then do adjustments.

then add the logic for actual descension.

then launch.

lets say a week....

i will also admit, i have a security update for main that i want to release first too (already coded), and since everyone hates security i have added a couple other enhancements (70% coded) to make the overall update seem ok :)

but still - estimate 1 week to live.
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Wow thats great to hear. IF you find the time looking into some game rules for main would be really good.
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Forum wrote:i'm back :)
chaos launch was good... took 2 days longer than i expected, plus 2 more to ensure all was good/bugs fixed.

ok - i will read through all this tomorrow, fix bugs, then do adjustments.

then add the logic for actual descension.

then launch.

lets say a week....

i will also admit, i have a security update for main that i want to release first too (already coded), and since everyone hates security i have added a couple other enhancements (70% coded) to make the overall update seem ok :)

but still - estimate 1 week to live.


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Flavar wrote:Wow thats great to hear. IF you find the time looking into some game rules for main would be really good.


What Flavar said...

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Forum wrote:i'm back :)
chaos launch was good... took 2 days longer than i expected, plus 2 more to ensure all was good/bugs fixed.

ok - i will read through all this tomorrow, fix bugs, then do adjustments.

then add the logic for actual descension.

then launch.

lets say a week....

i will also admit, i have a security update for main that i want to release first too (already coded), and since everyone hates security i have added a couple other enhancements (70% coded) to make the overall update seem ok :)

but still - estimate 1 week to live.


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Forum wrote:i will also admit, i have a security update for main that i want to release first too



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