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[06:59:36] <admin> back in 4mins
[06:59:48] * Psi_Kiya_Trist sets mode: +q admin
[06:59:56] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> that should've been auto-matic >_>
[07:00:57] <10squishie> maybe it is like my auto-matic scripts :p slow :p
[07:01:54] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> i did that manually >_>
[07:02:24] <10squishie> lol :p
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[07:03:01] <Gaara> no way
[07:04:09] <Motte> moin all
[07:04:28] * Psi_Kiya_Trist changes topic to 'Meet the Admin day in full swing. abusive comments or language will be punished.'
[07:04:44] <Gaara> like the ingame admin
[07:04:56] <Gaara> wow
[07:05:07] <12~admin> hi
[07:05:10] <Gaara> hi
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[07:05:25] <Gaara> ty for such a great free game
[07:05:32] <12~admin> psi - i logged in as guest ... then changed nick. thus no auto-magic.
[07:05:34] <SGW_Guest325> hi
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[07:05:40] <SGW_Guest325> lol have to login:S
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[07:05:57] <12~admin> welcome gaara et all
[07:06:04] <10squishie> welcome admin
[07:06:09] <Gaara> indeed
[07:06:15] <Motte> hey admin
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[07:06:27] <12~admin> i firstly apologize for not being here more often. hopefully i can make this a more frequent event opposed to once per 2years
[07:06:36] <Gaara> lol
[07:06:44] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> considering sgw's hasn't been around for 2 years >_>
[07:06:50] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> "officially"
[07:06:51] <Gaara> where always here
[07:06:55] <10squishie> you're a busy person
if you spent as much time here as i do... the game would still be in beta :p
[07:07:01] <12~admin> true.
[07:07:12] <12~admin> lots of updates on the go now
[07:07:17] <Gaara> sweet
[07:07:24] <Motte> sounds like fun
[07:07:28] <10squishie> lots of fun updates?
[07:07:29] <12~admin> sounds like work
[07:07:34] <Motte> that too
[07:08:05] <blaze> thnx for putting so much time and effort into it, great game
[07:08:14] <Gaara> amen
[07:08:18] <12~admin> so - my goal in this is to answer question, take comments/criticism, and in general allow an 'open forum' in a casual way.
[07:08:18] * blaze 's 2 cents
[07:08:28] <Gaara> nice
[07:08:47] <Bazsy> I do have answers and comments too:)
[07:08:51] <Gaara> can we please supers
[07:08:53] <Bazsy> i mean questions:D
[07:08:53] <Bazsy> lol
[07:08:58] <Gaara> sell
[07:08:59] * squishie is now known as supersquish
[07:09:02] <12~admin> i fall behind on email too often, and its hard to get immediate response. hopefully this allows more interaction, even if limited audience
[07:09:21] <Motte> admin in that case i am right that
http://www.stargatewars.de is dead
[07:09:22] <12~admin> you can 'seed my brain' with good ideas
[07:09:26] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> i had hoped for a bigger audience...
[07:09:35] <12~admin> .de is on hold
[07:09:41] <12~admin> my german dude got a job
[07:09:50] <Gaara> can we maby start to sell supers
[07:09:57] <Gaara> please
[07:10:00] <Motte> well i sent you an email about it ages ago
[07:10:05] <Bazsy> well im here, and since i read all the "for admin" section i can sum it all:)
[07:10:07] <Bazsy> if needed
[07:10:09] <Motte> offered help
[07:10:12] <12~admin> to what end? the reason cant is to keep something in an account.
[07:10:36] <12~admin> i read the bugs/for admin/and general
[07:10:56] <supersquish> admin: what about if you had a team or a person who sorted through all your mail and had the important stuff forwarded asap and maybe the less important stuff to a less important box... might make the email easier to handle
[07:11:03] <12~admin> supers are a 'constant build' concept. a one way street.
[07:11:12] <Motte> and that is good so
[07:11:21] <12~admin> i have support@ for that reason
[07:11:22] <Gaara> had to try
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[07:11:39] <zesh> Oo
[07:11:41] <12~admin> i get filtered email from support@
[07:11:47] <12~admin> but even then, it gets overwhelming.
[07:11:52] <Bazsy>
[07:11:54] <Gaara> i bet
[07:12:01] <Motte> seems mine never arived
[07:12:03] <12~admin> when i do updates, etc, i ignore email for the time. then fall behind. then get overwhelmed.
[07:12:16] <12~admin> i plead guilty to email chaos.
[07:12:21] <Gaara> lol
[07:12:34] <12~admin> plus - having my email 'public' gets me a LOT of spam
[07:12:39] <Bazsy> Could we get someone with admin rights check the cheates section say 1x per week?
[07:12:40] <12~admin> hard to tell the real emails
[07:12:48] <Gaara> i have always wonderd do you play the game
[07:12:59] <Motte> true
[07:13:01] <12~admin> cheat section -yes. i will try to get more done there. it is not easy.
[07:13:18] <12~admin> its time consuming, and can even slow the game when i query the logs
[07:13:21] <Bazsy> i know... i was thinking of filtering it too somehow
[07:13:22] <Motte> i dont want to imaging how many mails you get a day
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[07:13:41] <12~admin> for the cheat - i am about 90% done a filter script (again)
[07:13:45] <Motte> german ip
[07:13:49] <Bazsy> there are some cheater (mostly multies) reported like 6times and one of them has like 100multies...
[07:13:56] <supersquish> ice_man Bazsy :p
[07:14:00] <Bazsy> yeah
[07:14:02] <12~admin> sure they're still there?
[07:14:07] <Bazsy> ice_man, and fire_man
[07:14:08] <supersquish> dunno -goes to check-
[07:14:09] <Bazsy> let me check
[07:14:32] <SGW_Guest147> hey all geisha here
[07:14:39] <Motte> moin
[07:14:47] <supersquish> ok they died :p
[07:14:55] <Bazsy> yeah nice:)
[07:14:57] <12~admin> problem with delegating admin level functions, is the trust factor
[07:15:10] <Gaara> true
[07:15:13] <Motte> SGW_Guest147 are you german?
[07:15:15] <supersquish> yeah... very true
[07:15:24] <Bazsy> get someone who doesnt play... like Wolf359, he quit the game...
[07:15:36] <12~admin> its a tradeoff between results, and conflict of interest.
[07:15:41] <12~admin> and time.
[07:15:46] * SGW_Guest147 is now known as geisha
[07:15:48] <Bazsy> i know...
[07:15:52] <12~admin> yes -someone removed is good, but still there are loyalties
[07:16:18] <12~admin> the script i am making, should give just enough to determine if cheat or no - and ability to act.
[07:16:18] <Bazsy> I was thinking if an outside someone.... but he wouldnt know the ingame things:)
[07:16:32] <12~admin> yes - outside =not enough knowledge. inside=conflict of interest
[07:16:45] <12~admin> thsu the dilemma and why a script to prefilter
[07:16:53] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> someone who quit?
[07:16:55] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> would that work?
[07:17:04] <12~admin> if no relations to existing players, which is hard
[07:17:08] <geisha> you never know if they really quit
[07:17:11] <Bazsy> thats fine. Just think about the inocent ppls it can filter out accidentaly...
[07:17:19] <Bazsy> True...
[07:17:40] <12~admin> innocents will always get included. more if the account killing is strict.
[07:17:50] <12~admin> less if not - but then it catches less real cheaters
[07:18:04] <Gaara> my co was hacked
[07:18:11] <12~admin> imagine your housemate a big cheat. and you with one account but same details.
[07:18:22] <12~admin> hard not to ban you too
[07:18:29] <12~admin> co? commander?
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[07:18:31] <Bazsy> yes, and i can imagin ppls with dynamic ips...
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[07:18:48] <12~admin> yup. whole countries sharing IP range
[07:19:01] <Gaara> yes
[07:19:12] <12~admin> that is why there are ingame limits on -even if a cheater tried to cheat - what they can actually do
[07:19:24] <Motte> we are still not able to trade
[07:19:29] <12~admin> so its dual - 1) limit abilit to cheat 2)catch ones that try
[07:19:36] <12~admin> who is we?
[07:19:44] <Motte> me and a few friends
[07:19:47] <Motte> same school
[07:19:48] <12~admin> same IP shared
[07:19:55] <Motte> school network
[07:19:55] <supersquish> yeah thats a point... i cant trade with someone who lives 100miles away :S
[07:20:16] <12~admin> school network, or 1 player at a school with 100 accounts? how can i really tell?
[07:20:22] <Bazsy> i see.. im a security engineer, so i can imagine... If u make it hard for the bad guys it will be harder for the good guys too...:S
[07:20:28] <Motte> true
[07:20:29] <12~admin> yup. exactly
[07:20:37] <12~admin> everything is compromise
[07:20:44] <12~admin> i try to keep it balanced.
[07:20:54] <12~admin> but there is no perfect answer.
[07:20:58] <Motte> you can meet a few of them in here
[07:21:04] <Motte> true
[07:21:09] <Motte> you never can say
[07:21:29] <Motte> thats the problem
[07:21:34] <Gaara> there are many cheaters in the chat
[07:21:37] <Bazsy> Closing the cheaters thing: can we get a topic where u can put actions u made against them? that would show the ppls that things are moving. And i would be able to delete outdated topics...
[07:21:38] <Gaara> all the time
[07:21:45] <Motte> but we can live with it
[07:21:51] <Gaara> ok
[07:22:03] <12~admin> ok - on the cheating topic - i will continue to work on the script but nothing will ever be 100%. i will see if i can get some more dedicated time to it - delegated or not
[07:22:45] <12~admin> i usually run queries on cheats - hard to list everything, since it updates multiple records all at once.
[07:22:48] <Bazsy> If the script will work i think we will only get like 1 cheater reports a day... now its around 3 (2 out of 3 is a multi)
[07:22:53] <zesh> my bro and me play
[07:22:56] <zesh> but at the same time
[07:23:01] <zesh> we have 2 pcs
[07:23:07] <Motte> and if you ever need help with translations from german to english and other way around
[07:23:09] <12~admin> using 2 browsers, i can do the same thing.
[07:23:12] <Motte> you can find me here
[07:23:14] <Motte> if needed
[07:23:22] <Motte> so are a few other german
[07:23:29] <12~admin> motte - i may take you up on that in future. but for now have to focus on 3 other things first
[07:23:29] <geisha> like me
[07:23:39] <Motte> kk
[07:23:47] <Motte> geisha
[07:23:48] <Motte> i know
[07:23:51] <zesh> hmm admin
[07:24:00] <zesh> 1 guy u shud look into is magic_pl
[07:24:03] <zesh> his own alliance guys
[07:24:07] <zesh> admited he had multies
[07:24:08] <12~admin> if you are the one that sent email, i did forward that to my german friend, but no answer since he got job. i will post on forum when i'm good to go for looking at .de
[07:24:14] <zesh> and hes grown amazing quickly
[07:24:17] <zesh> same as me
[07:24:20] <zesh> and ive been rading
[07:24:21] <zesh> too
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[07:24:24] <zesh> raiding too
[07:24:35] <zesh> rhett suspects him too
[07:24:39] <zesh> he said hed talk to you
[07:24:52] <Motte> i think i was the guy with the email about .de
[07:25:05] <12~admin> ok. good. i have the email saved.
[07:25:11] <Motte>
[07:25:14] <Motte> if not
[07:25:18] <Motte> you will find me here
[07:25:26] <Motte> in #stargatewars.de
[07:25:40] <12~admin> on specific cheaters, etc - post in forum. i will look eventually or use to test script
but i was hoping for more general, higher level topics here ...
[07:25:58] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> cheaters is a big concern. hehe
[07:26:01] <Gaara> oh admin can we have more planets
[07:26:04] <12~admin> i know the 'daily operations' need new eyes. that is not unknown.
[07:26:05] <Bazsy> Okay i will put in my next one:) : Bugs section: A topic with "known bugs (working on them" title would be nice... since they always come there and report the same bug, and it takes place from the new ones...
[07:26:23] <12~admin> who is bugs mod?
[07:26:27] <12~admin> or is there one?
[07:26:27] <Bazsy> me
[07:26:28] <supersquish> bazsy :p
[07:26:33] <Motte> i am german mod
[07:26:39] <Bazsy> its in the "for admin" section
[07:26:49] <Bazsy> which is modded by me, thats why i can ask for hours LOL
[07:27:03] <12~admin> ok - if you can have a locked topic with a list of known bugs - confirmed bugs - and manage that, tehn that will really help me when i go to the forum
[07:27:28] <Gaara> oh admin can we have more planets
[07:27:29] <12~admin> i will then update your post, with action taken
[07:27:37] <12~admin> planets - more than 10? or more in universe?
[07:27:41] <Gaara> no
[07:27:45] <supersquish> more in the universe
[07:27:48] <Gaara> more out there to finbd
[07:27:50] <Gaara> find
[07:27:55] <Bazsy> i think they ment more in univers
[07:27:56] <Bazsy> e
[07:27:57] <12~admin> there are 10,000 now.
[07:28:04] <12~admin> thats 10 per top 1000 accounts.
[07:28:24] <12~admin> they should be a rare, 'fight for them' resource.
[07:28:34] <Kasket> My M/S pilots are lazy, they can't find any planets
[07:28:34] <Motte> would be boring
[07:28:38] <supersquish> indeeed... otherwise everyone will have 10 planets
[07:28:39] <12~admin> else everyone gets one, its not a battle
-at least that is my thinking
[07:28:40] <Motte> if there would be too many
[07:29:05] <geisha> I dont think it would really make a difference if there were more
[07:29:15] <geisha> the top players would always have the best ones
[07:29:22] <Motte> tru
[07:29:22] <12~admin> i am looking at a couple planet updates - making hte battle for planets longer lived, and an ability to hide one, but more planets is not a solution to a problem, as i can see it
[07:29:25] <Motte> true*
[07:29:26] <geisha> ppl just dont have the balls to take them back
[07:29:32] <Bazsy> admin: i will do a known bugs topic than... and i shall put links to their topics i guess?
[07:29:38] <Gaara> but there are those with weak or multi account that just go around taking then abandoning planet
[07:29:40] <Gaara> oh
[07:29:44] <Gaara> hide a planet
[07:29:45] <Gaara> yes
[07:29:45] <12~admin> or a short summary of hte bug
[07:29:52] <12~admin> enough i can find it
[07:29:58] <Bazsy> okay that will do
[07:30:24] <12~admin> for bugs: 1)bug desciption. 2)url and error message if any 3)steps to take to replicate the bug 4)results of bug as it stands.
[07:30:26] <Motte> admin
[07:30:33] <Motte> a question about that
[07:30:34] <Motte> (Test Feature, but working) - Give Market Supporter Bonus to Another (ID) for 75,600,000,000 Naquadah
[07:30:42] <Gaara> wow
[07:30:47] <Gaara> pricy
[07:30:52] <Motte> that is a damn expensive market supporter
[07:30:53] <Motte> or
[07:31:01] <Gaara> is it ss
[07:31:05] <Gaara> or 1/2 ss
[07:31:06] <12~admin> its market
[07:31:07] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> thats an expensive ppt
[07:31:09] <Gaara> oh
[07:31:10] <Gaara> lame
[07:31:12] <12~admin> yes -expensive ppt
[07:31:25] <12~admin> it'll likely not stay. was a trial
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[07:31:38] <Gaara> could do it for full ss
[07:31:45] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> got some good feedback of it from teal'auc though
[07:32:24] <Motte> admin what about like 1 or 2 Market Trades more per week
[07:32:25] <12~admin> giving naq is the easier solution. timing harder though. maybe it stays, maybe not - not 100% decided.
[07:32:41] <Kasket> I have what I think is a trade broker bug. do you want it here or on the forum?
[07:32:43] <12~admin> if i can ever find a way to stop 'market trade trading' maybe.
[07:32:47] <geisha> I like the idea as long as you are still limited to 2 PPts a week
[07:32:49] <12~admin> kasket -forum
[07:32:54] <Kasket> k
[07:33:06] <12~admin> make sure you can repeat the bug -
[07:33:13] <Kasket> oh you can
[07:33:30] <12~admin> if its not repeatable, i cant say is a bug. ok .. good
[07:33:43] <12~admin> repeatable means i can find it
[07:33:55] <Bazsy> oh market i have one old suggestion which was mine:): "Give 15multiples / week, instead of 3 market turns with 5 multiples each" That would help the small guys...
[07:34:09] <12~admin> hmm
[07:34:23] <12~admin> psi - can you record that
[07:34:33] <Motte> hmmm but then how two use 2 ppts
[07:34:39] <supersquish> admin: what sort of things should we expect in the next wave of chaos in about 77 hours... as in are there many changes to the game for next wave or is it similar to now with the bugs fixed?
[07:34:39] <Bazsy> about the bugs, i know what u want... i will do what i can...
[07:34:46] <geisha> you would need 5 for 1 ppt
[07:34:46] <Motte> if it is all in one big trade
[07:34:53] <12~admin> i am not going to be able to look at the 'action items' here for at least 77 hours
[07:35:00] <Motte> wait nvm
[07:35:02] <Motte> read wrong
[07:35:18] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> yays notepad
[07:35:20] <12~admin> chaos - its all i am working on now
[07:35:37] <12~admin> there will be changes.
[07:35:43] <Motte> btw admin
[07:35:48] <12~admin> not major, but aimed at a more intuitive play.
[07:35:55] <Motte> .de is a clone/cop of chaos
[07:36:01] <12~admin> yes. for now
[07:36:02] <Motte> why not main?
[07:36:02] <Bazsy> could we get some hint about it?:D
[07:36:10] <Motte> as SGW
[07:36:28] <12~admin> at the time, chaos was coded better for translation
[07:36:36] <Motte> hmmm
[07:36:43] <Motte> i am on all 3
[07:36:49] <Motte> SGW , chaos as .de
[07:37:11] <Motte> no problem with translation them
[07:37:13] <12~admin> .de i will chat on later. when i have time to look at it.
[07:37:36] <12~admin> i am also hesitant at giving out all the code, since hte 'language' and hte code are all tied. but we can look to that later.
[07:37:50] <Motte> kk
[07:37:51] <12~admin> chaos - is there a current GOOD list of bugs?
[07:38:13] <12~admin> the forum is chaotic
[07:38:17] <Kasket> lol
[07:38:18] <supersquish> lol
[07:38:24] <Motte> lol
[07:38:25] <12~admin> and i dont know what is real, perceived, etc
[07:38:31] <Motte> so are the numbers and ammounts
[07:38:34] <Bazsy> i will try to get chaos mod here:)
[07:38:38] <geisha> that brings me to another topic...
[07:38:39] <Bazsy> maybe he can tell you
[07:38:42] <12~admin> k
[07:38:43] <supersquish> im here bazsy
[07:38:46] <Bazsy> oh
[07:38:47] <geisha> forum and game administration
[07:38:52] <Bazsy> didnt know u chaos too:)
[07:38:57] <geisha> how does the communication work?
[07:39:03] <12~admin> in what way?
[07:39:13] <Motte> just notcided the crapy ingame market in chaos
[07:39:15] <Motte> when i played
[07:39:26] <12~admin> ppl say 'fix market' but fix what?
[07:39:27] <geisha> well, it is sometimes somewhat confusing that the forum has its very own rules
[07:39:34] <supersquish> admin: there isnt a bug list like in the bugs section so would you like me to make a list of all the known bugs tonight for chaos too?
[07:39:43] <12~admin> please!
[07:39:53] <12~admin> sooner is better since i have to have them all fixed in 3days
[07:40:04] <12~admin> i know about very few real bugs.
[07:40:10] <Kasket> reset in 3?
[07:40:14] <12~admin> forum and game - run separately.
[07:40:18] <12~admin> 3 days. yes
[07:40:43] <geisha> I know they run seperately but the forums are still the official platform for the game community
[07:40:49] <Motte> meh i dont like chaos that much
[07:40:59] <Bazsy> i think we speaking about one particular rule
[07:41:09] <12~admin> motte - if you explain why, maybe i will listen
[07:41:11] <supersquish> admin: i do not believe too many have been flagged but i shall make a list in a minute
[07:41:13] <geisha> no, several actually
[07:41:17] <Kasket> I personally hate the forums. if I wanted to read spam I would check my junk mail.
[07:41:18] <12~admin> bazsy - not sure as i dont actively manage forums
[07:41:32] <Motte> i am not that huge fan of the reset
[07:41:41] <Motte> maybe i will start this wave
[07:41:46] <Motte> to play real
[07:41:47] <Bazsy> well the biggest issue at the moment is the ingame goods for real money issue
[07:41:50] <12~admin> if thats only reason, that is fine. but will not be 'fixed' in the next 2years
[07:41:56] <12~admin> ie reset
[07:41:58] <zesh> wow
[07:42:00] <zesh> 75 bill for
[07:42:04] <zesh> a ss
[07:42:16] <zesh> id use that
[07:42:17] <12~admin> ingame for $ - what is the problem there.
[07:42:18] <zesh> does it work
[07:42:19] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> i think zesh is behind us
[07:42:27] <zesh> i have a few friends
[07:42:30] <zesh> who otherwise
[07:42:32] <Bazsy> its not banned in the game as far as i know
[07:42:33] <zesh> wud lose intrest
[07:42:44] <zesh> and i can generate that kind of nair
[07:42:46] <12~admin> zesh - what are you referring to?
[07:42:46] <zesh> naq*
[07:42:47] <Motte> and chaos has just som to big numbers
[07:42:50] <zesh> the give ss
[07:42:50] <zesh> thing
[07:42:52] <Bazsy> but it is banned on the forums since a 2 days ago as i know... and that caused some trouble
[07:42:59] <zesh> does it work?
[07:43:00] <Motte> confusing sometimes
[07:43:01] <12~admin> what is banned?
[07:43:10] <geisha> well, I would just love to see all the forum rules and restrictions being checked with the game administration so it all makes more sense
[07:43:12] <12~admin> i am confused.
[07:43:19] <Bazsy> advertising ingame goods for money trades, and linking forums which allowing it
[07:43:44] <Motte> brb
[07:43:48] <12~admin> hold on. are we talking 'upgrade' on the site? black market? what?
[07:43:53] <12~admin> chaos main or forum?
[07:43:55] <Bazsy> black market
[07:43:56] <12~admin> confused.
[07:43:57] <Bazsy> main
[07:44:05] <Bazsy> well i will get it together:)
[07:44:06] <zesh> admin is the ss thing permanant?
[07:44:12] <geisha> people were selling resources for money
[07:44:19] <zesh> the test thingy
[07:44:24] <geisha> and that has now been banned from the forums
[07:44:25] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> i believe zesh is talking about the "buy market SS for someone else" and the others are talking about how the forum administration banned $ trades on the forums.
[07:44:26] <zesh> i might bo buy 2 or 3
[07:44:33] <zesh> yeh
[07:44:36] <zesh> Psi_Kiya_Trist is quick
[07:44:39] <zesh> ill go buy 2 or 3
[07:44:42] <zesh> now if it works
[07:44:44] <12~admin> its basicly PPT
[07:44:52] <zesh> so it doesnt work
[07:44:53] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> market SS only allows you to use the ingame market
[07:44:53] <zesh>
[07:45:01] <zesh> so its just market
[07:45:02] <zesh> not full
[07:45:08] <zesh> ah
[07:45:10] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> we covered that already
[07:45:13] <zesh> yeh
[07:45:13] <Bazsy> yes
[07:45:18] <zesh> i havent been reading
[07:45:19] <zesh>
[07:45:20] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> also, it says "market" in it, not "full"
[07:45:24] <Bazsy> admin: Geisha sumed it all
[07:45:26] <zesh> im sorry
[07:45:47] <Kasket> Talking about buying someone else SS or asking for it shouldn't be banned. the selling resources for personal gain I can understand. it hurts $$ that could be put into the game and support it.
[07:45:53] <zesh> is there any ideas of a new GUI admin
[07:46:10] <zesh> cos alot of games are now alot 'prettier'
[07:46:14] <zesh> taw atw etc
[07:46:27] <Kasket> buying ss for someone else still puts the $$ into the game
[07:46:45] <geisha> can we stick to one topic at a time? me = blonde
[07:46:49] <zesh> lol
[07:46:50] <geisha> easy to confuse
[07:47:14] <12~admin> Give PPT to Another (ID) for 75,600,000,000 Naquadah
[07:47:22] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> i think we lost Admin for a bit
[07:47:36] <12~admin> i updated the market test of ppt to another. to state explicitly ppt.
[07:47:47] <supersquish>
[07:48:10] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> ok, and then, we still have the whole forum rules debaticle
[07:48:12] <Bazsy> Closing that thing: We want to ask u to read the forum rules and take note if needed.
[07:48:33] <geisha> so, admin what is your opinion on selling ingame goods for $ ?
[07:48:38] <12~admin> on asking for $ - i do not object if someone wants SS and want to trade for it.
[07:48:55] <12~admin> ingame goods for $ - i hate it. i get too many complaints.
[07:48:59] <zesh> hmm
[07:49:00] <zesh> lol
[07:49:02] <zesh> id use that
[07:49:02] <Bazsy>
[07:49:04] <12~admin> but - i cannot stop it
[07:49:05] <zesh> now
[07:49:09] <geisha> well the problem I see is that the forum makes its own rules
[07:49:11] <zesh> admin does the market ss
[07:49:16] <zesh> use the other persons mts
[07:49:22] <geisha> that are absolutely unrelated to the game rules
[07:49:27] <zesh> if they already have it
[07:49:29] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> the Forums are trying to meet up with our friend admin here more often
[07:49:32] <zesh> and can they reject it etc
[07:49:36] <supersquish> admin: i have put up the list of bugs for chaos wave
i'll keep it updated
[07:49:38] <geisha> and that's causing a lot of trouble
[07:50:08] <zesh> cos this could be useful against guerillas
[07:50:12] <12~admin> ppt to another - uses one of their PPT counts; does not use a MT
[07:50:24] <zesh> excellent
[07:50:26] <zesh> MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[07:50:34] <supersquish> so in theory you could get a whole week of ppt?
[07:50:37] <geisha> nice
[07:50:43] <12~admin> no - in theory no.
[07:50:46] <12~admin> uses YOUR ppt count;
[07:51:00] <12~admin> YOUR = one who got ppt
[07:51:04] <supersquish> ah
[07:51:06] <geisha> good
[07:51:11] <zesh> ah
[07:51:12] <12~admin> i am still confused on the forum rule in question. what exactly si rule?
[07:51:23] <zesh> so
[07:51:26] <zesh> ok if i send a ppt
[07:51:28] <zesh> to x player
[07:51:29] <Bazsy> I will move to my next point
: We have a "Discussion on Enhancements (coming up)" thread on the forum... u used it more times in the past... Are u still planning to use it to announce planned enchancements, and see some discussion on them?
[07:51:31] <geisha> the rule is that you are no longer allowed to post $ trades
[07:51:33] * Psi_Kiya_Trist sets mode: +vvv geisha supersquish Bazsy
[07:51:35] <zesh> wud i lose my ppt
[07:51:40] <zesh> bonus or would they
[07:51:44] <zesh> i assume them
[07:51:48] <zesh> from what im learning
[07:51:58] <12~admin> bazsy - yes. if big change.
[07:52:10] <12~admin> zesh - no.
[07:52:20] <12~admin> zesh - they lose 1 ppt count.
[07:52:24] <zesh> good
[07:52:30] <zesh> and do they have the option of rejecting
[07:52:45] <+Bazsy> the rule is as follows: "19) (temp) No posting links or advertising resource markets on other forums. "
[07:52:48] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> accept donations applies
[07:52:51] <12~admin> geisha - you mean 'i will give xx naq for $$ ' ?
[07:53:02] <+geisha> yep
[07:53:06] <+geisha> or UU
[07:53:13] <12~admin> hm.
[07:53:18] <+Bazsy> which is in harmony with the market rule: "13. You are no longer permitted to sell any in game resources for real money on these forums. This means that no one will be allowed to post threads stating their intention to sell or buy in game goods for $$$."
[07:53:31] <12~admin> i am not decided on that. it does help me in further making clear i am not responsible for those trades.
[07:53:59] <+Bazsy> since its black market, you are not responcible anyways:D
[07:54:05] <12~admin> if its allowed on forums, it does imply its under the sgw responsiblity
[07:54:06] <+geisha> well if you make it a game rule that selling resources for $ is not allowed thats fine
[07:54:15] <12~admin> no - i cant
[07:54:19] <12~admin> cause i could not enforce it
[07:54:23] <+geisha> yes you can never really stop it
[07:54:28] <+geisha> I agree
[07:54:34] <+Bazsy> yes, geisha: i was thinking on it
[07:54:41] <12~admin> but having a rule that it cannot be advertized on the site - i am ok with that.
[07:54:45] <+Bazsy> adn it would make ppls flood the cheaters section LOL
[07:55:01] <Gaara> admin
[07:55:12] <12~admin> thats me.
[07:55:13] <Gaara> how do i try to get a nother name change
[07:55:21] <Gaara> i messed up on one
[07:55:26] <Gaara> and now im out
[07:55:32] <+supersquish> brb guys/... my internet is being annoying >.< and admin that post will be up in 2 seconds :p
[07:55:35] <Kasket> people still want to complain to someone when they get cheated. even if it was the black market = headache for ADMIN
[07:55:37] <Gaara> i screwed up
[07:55:40] <12~admin> 1) be careful when you use them. you are your name
2) email support@ and explain. they may give you another if its a good reason.
[07:55:58] <Gaara> ty
[07:56:00] <Motte> i am happy with my name
[07:56:07] <12~admin> lol.
[07:56:10] <Kasket> maybe add the definition of blackmarket to the forum. I bet 25% of the people have no idea what it means
[07:56:11] <Gaara> i spelled it wrong
[07:56:17] <12~admin> the black market - if i could - i'd ban it all. but i cannot.
[07:56:21] <Gaara> i was vary drunk
[07:56:37] <+geisha> lol no excuse
[07:56:41] <12~admin> lol. maybe i need a 'i am drunk' status - that acts like windows safe mode
[07:56:48] <12~admin> limits you do basic functions
[07:56:50] <Kasket> lol
[07:56:52] <+Bazsy> LOL
[07:56:53] <+geisha> oh that would be handy
[07:56:54] <Gaara> indeed
[07:56:55] <Motte> i am here drunk often enough and can controll me
[07:56:57] <+geisha> for a lot of us
[07:56:59] <+geisha>
[07:57:03] <Motte> so i agree with geisha
[07:57:06] <Gaara> me not so much
[07:57:21] <12~admin> the $ for goods forum rule - psi - can you add that to a mod discussion point for next meeting.
[07:57:38] <Motte> [19:56:44] <admin> lol. maybe i need a 'i am drunk' status - that acts like windows safe mode
<- lol would be funny
[07:57:42] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> two notes, yay
[07:57:42] <Gaara> yeah i mean its a game not a job
[07:57:50] <12~admin> i am willing to think more on the $/goods - but will not commit to any particular result.
[07:57:51] <+geisha> anyway, I would like to close the forum thing
[07:58:02] <+geisha> even though the game and the forum are seperate
[07:58:07] <+Bazsy> admin: 2 little bugs i have in mind:) 1: if u train uu, u always loose 1 uu no matter how much u trained:) 2: if someone has 1 planet with blank name, it cannot be spied...
[07:58:11] <+geisha> it is still the platform for the community
[07:58:24] <+geisha> and the game lives and dies with the community
[07:58:27] <12~admin> planets one i can fix pretty easy.
[07:58:37] <12~admin> i think its fixed going forward - but not if the planet was named before
[07:58:48] <+geisha> so I would love to see more communication between both...
[07:58:54] <12~admin> 'close the forum thing' ?
[07:58:57] <+Bazsy> yesyes
[07:59:23] <12~admin> psi and I have agreed to regular forum/admin meetings. we are just figuring out hte timing
[07:59:38] <+Bazsy> K close it...
[07:59:44] * +supersquish (
mailto:squishie@living.in.azeroth.com) Quit (Ping timeout)
[07:59:44] <Kasket> any thoughts on adding an alliance search function to the main attack page?
[07:59:45] <+geisha> I think someone should tell you about all the forum rules so you can see how the forums for your game being ruled
[07:59:49] <12~admin> i dont understand 'close it'
[07:59:50] <Motte> forum/admin?
[08:00:00] <Motte> doesnt that means all forum mods?
[08:00:01] <+Bazsy> i mean close the forum issue, move on:)
[08:00:06] <12~admin> ah - yes.
[08:00:07] <+geisha> exactly
[08:00:10] <+geisha>
[08:00:22] <12~admin> the answer is: more communication is going to happen. period.
[08:00:24] <Motte> ok i dont think i count
[08:00:31] <+geisha> great
[08:00:33] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> [11:00] (admin): the answer is: more communication is going to happen. period.
[08:00:34] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> exactly
[08:00:35] <+geisha> geisha is happy now
[08:00:42] <+Bazsy> me too
[08:00:50] <Motte> all are happy i think
[08:00:53] <+Bazsy> and admin: thats more than i expected and not over yet:D
[08:00:54] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> been in the works for a while now, just... hard to get all the admins to respond >_>
[08:01:03] <12~admin> re alliance - can't you get that from alliance ranking?
[08:01:19] <+Bazsy> im happy too... and we have to make this meetings more recent:)
[08:01:21] <Motte> well if the german forum mod counts too let me know
[08:01:32] <Kasket> admin - no only pages
[08:01:47] <+Bazsy> more frequent i mean:)
[08:02:12] <Gaara> ty admin bbl
[08:02:14] * Gaara (
mailto:Gara1@GA-AF9AB4A0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Gaara)
[08:02:19] <Kasket> I was looking along the lines of searching like we dp for people on the attack page.
[08:02:23] <Kasket> *do
[08:02:25] <12~admin> on - i see.
http://www.stargatewars.com/stats.php?id=26912 --then click alliance. or surf the 29 pages of alliances
[08:02:41] <+Bazsy> yeah forum admins are definately hard to contact:D
[08:02:43] <12~admin> motte - talk to psi
[08:02:54] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> wow, that was a quick hour >_>
[08:02:57] <+Bazsy> btw PSI: can i have your working msn?;)
[08:03:07] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> >_> no...
[08:03:14] <Motte> lol
[08:03:14] <+Bazsy> thanks:)
[08:03:15] <12~admin> lol
[08:03:29] <Motte> i am not sure if i have psis working msn
[08:03:37] <Motte> but i dont think so
[08:03:42] <Motte> nvn
[08:03:45] <Motte> nvm*
[08:03:46] <12~admin> ok - time to wrap up so i can get back to chaos
-- i will check the chaos bug forum for most up to date.
[08:03:49] <+geisha> I'll sell it to you for 1 trillion naq
[08:03:51] <+geisha> lol
[08:03:52] <12~admin> any last questions/comments?
[08:03:53] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist>
mailto:rybiart@hotmail.com is my primary msn for stargatewars
[08:04:00] <12~admin> lol
[08:04:24] <12~admin> last q/comment going once.....
[08:04:26] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> selling my personal msn for 1 tril naq *shakes head*
[08:04:28] * Motte and the rest of the german comunity is happy with the admin
[08:04:31] <+Bazsy> i have that added, and not working
[08:04:33] <12~admin> last q/comment going twice....
[08:04:33] <+geisha> thanks for your time, admin
[08:04:38] <Kasket> _comment
[08:04:39] <Kasket> thanks
[08:04:41] <+Bazsy> Thank you admin
[08:04:41] <Kasket>
[08:04:42] <+geisha> and thanks for the great game
[08:04:46] <12~admin> welcome. i will try to make this weekly or such.
[08:04:46] * ~Psi_Kiya_Trist gives admin one last huggles *
[08:04:47] <+geisha>
[08:04:51] <12~admin>
[08:04:55] <12~Psi_Kiya_Trist> weekly :O
[08:04:57] <+Bazsy> Oh and thank you Psi
[08:05:00] * ~Psi_Kiya_Trist dies
[08:05:04] <+Bazsy> and happy anniversary
[08:05:05] <12~admin> ok- thank you all for coming. i think it was useful.
[08:05:05] <+Bazsy>
[08:05:11] * Motte goes now to annoy Psi on MSN
[08:05:15] <Motte>
[08:05:19] <+Bazsy> weekly?:D
[08:05:20] <12~admin> comment/question gone thrice. admin back to work
[08:05:22] <+Bazsy> in my dreams:D
[08:05:28] <+Bazsy> good work
[08:05:31] <+geisha> cya
[08:05:33] <Motte> have fun admin
[08:05:34] * +geisha (
mailto:SGW_Guest1@GA-F054B096.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Quit: geisha)
[08:05:36] <Kasket> ~ afk
[08:05:47] <+Bazsy> See you next time:)
[08:05:52] <+Bazsy> Thank you for your time
[08:05:55] <+Bazsy> and for this game:)
[08:06:02] <12~admin> diff ppl can be in weeklies. i will be at all
... admin has left the window. thank you and welcome all
welcome
)- gone for 12mins 12secs left at 02:01pm
that's kinda stalkerish and creepy
