Stop artificially producing AT in the market.

[god]

lol, spoonfed, thats a good one. I actually used abit of strategy to get myself off of the ground, I didn't just raid when I started. After I got going I raided alot ofcourse.

and I don't discredit raiding as PART of a good strategy, but just buy-turns, raid repeat isn't a strategy it's just a battle of who has the most time as long as we are all being spoonfed unlimited turns.

It's a simple concept.

[Vendetta]

raiding is no-where near as simple as you make it out be, i was raiding when munchy started, yet he got WELL ahead of me as he knew how to make it work to his advantage alot better than I did, i was ignorant to the skill in raiding, i only now can do it because i chose to TAKE ACTION and take it up with him and bylly to learn how it was done, they taught me, i took it in, and continued with it.

it is not a simple, get easy turns, and raid UU, there is alot more to it. there are even more steps you can take before hand to get better raiding results which is where even more skill comes in, its not simply pilling your money into UP then sitting back like you would like to be able to do while staying on top.

[311 [TA]]

vendetta how can he know that if he doesn't raid

all the people talking about this are not raiders or major raideres so they dont understand that, lol, and if he says he is a major raider then he cant be that good if he doesnt understand that in the first place

u r exactly right. it takes alot of strategy more then just sitting on your up

[god]

to take an account with around 1million UU and unascended

and get to munchy's size in the time he did it in, ascending to living god

TOOK STRATEGY..........and if you think it didnt, you are MISTAKEN!

I ascended 6 times in 24 days, what's your point?

Then I sold naq FOR A YEAR without ever investing any of it back into my account except for the occaisonal increase to defense to keep the errant strike-only account off of my back.

I don't know the specifics about munchy, and I'm not personally attacking him, I'm looking at what is best for the game, and trying to make people realize that what is best for their account isn't always what is best for the game.

[Vendetta]

lol, spoonfed, thats a good one. I actually used abit of strategy to get myself off of the ground, I didn't just raid when I started. After I got going I raided alot ofcourse.

and I don't discredit raiding as PART of a good strategy, but just buy-turns, raid repeat isn't a strategy it's just a battle of who has the most time as long as we are all being spoonfed unlimited turns.

It's a simple concept.

yet you want it to be "sell turns and UU, buy UP, repeat" yup, GREAT stratigist there arentcha

[311 [TA]]

to take an account with around 1million UU and unascended

and get to munchy's size in the time he did it in, ascending to living god

TOOK STRATEGY..........and if you think it didnt, you are MISTAKEN!

I ascended 6 times in 24 days, what's your point?

Then I sold naq FOR A YEAR without ever investing any of it back into my account except for the occaisonal increase to defense to keep the errant strike-only account off of my back.

I don't know the specifics about munchy, and I'm not personally attacking him, I'm looking at what is best for the game, and trying to make people realize that what is best for their account isn't always what is best for the game.

ROFL your idea would help me and munchy out ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!

im considering the smaller players which it wouldnt help like you say

it would end up helping me and munchy alot more limiting turns

[god]

lol, spoonfed, thats a good one. I actually used abit of strategy to get myself off of the ground, I didn't just raid when I started. After I got going I raided alot ofcourse.

and I don't discredit raiding as PART of a good strategy, but just buy-turns, raid repeat isn't a strategy it's just a battle of who has the most time as long as we are all being spoonfed unlimited turns.

It's a simple concept.

yet you want it to be "sell turns and UU, buy UP, repeat" yup, GREAT stratigist there arentcha

No, actually, I don't.

I want a balance between raiding, farming, buying UU and UP building as it should be.

if turns were limited, there would be a balance point where all of these would be equally effective but to show the BEST GROWTH, you would have to utilize all of them, not just see who can spend the most time raiding.

right now, raiding is highly overpowered because it isn't limited by turns, because turns are unlimited.

[Vendetta]

to take an account with around 1million UU and unascended

and get to munchy's size in the time he did it in, ascending to living god

TOOK STRATEGY..........and if you think it didnt, you are MISTAKEN!

I ascended 6 times in 24 days, what's your point?

Then I sold naq FOR A YEAR without ever investing any of it back into my account except for the occaisonal increase to defense to keep the errant strike-only account off of my back.

I don't know the specifics about munchy, and I'm not personally attacking him, I'm looking at what is best for the game, and trying to make people realize that what is best for their account isn't always what is best for the game.

whats best for the game is not making it impossible, or as you say, a 2 freaken year wait for the new guys to have a chance, i came close to quitting twice as i felt that it was just going to take to dam long, to catch back up to the big boys (after 4months of no net and an account restart) i only stayed because i stuck around for the TA, and then forum managed to bring in raiding just at the right time

what your proposing is WORSE for the game, stop trying to do your manipulating bull, you sir, are being hypocritical and trying to get what is best for YOUR account and your lazyness ingame.

also here is an example of how raiding takes skill i remember at 1 point, one of the raiders in the alliance and i used the same turns in a the same time (give or take 15mins) they got more than twice what i did, cause its not a simple buy turns and click a button.

if your that intent on having a game that requires pure skill and no time put in, go play CSS or something.

leave us to this game.

[god]

to take an account with around 1million UU and unascended

and get to munchy's size in the time he did it in, ascending to living god

TOOK STRATEGY..........and if you think it didnt, you are MISTAKEN!

I ascended 6 times in 24 days, what's your point?

Then I sold naq FOR A YEAR without ever investing any of it back into my account except for the occaisonal increase to defense to keep the errant strike-only account off of my back.

I don't know the specifics about munchy, and I'm not personally attacking him, I'm looking at what is best for the game, and trying to make people realize that what is best for their account isn't always what is best for the game.

whats best for the game is not making it impossible, or as you say, a 2 freaken year wait for the new guys to have a chance, i came close to quitting twice as i felt that it was just going to take to dam long, to catch back up to the big boys (after 4months of no net and an account restart) i only stayed because i stuck around for the TA, and then forum managed to bring in raiding just at the right time

what your proposing is WORSE for the game, stop trying to do your manipulating bull, you sir, are being hypocritical and trying to get what is best for YOUR account and your lazyness ingame.

also here is an example of how raiding takes skill i remember at 1 point, one of the raiders in the alliance and i used the same turns in a the same time (give or take 15mins) they got more than twice what i did, cause its not a simple buy turns and click a button.

if your that intent on having a game that requires pure skill and no time put in, go play CSS or something.

leave us to this game.

which means he found better targets. it was the same when there was only farming.

and time SHOULD for count for something... AKA 2 years >6 months

[Vendetta]

No, actually, I don't.

I want a balance between raiding, farming, buying UU and UP building as it should be.

if turns were limited, there would be a balance point where all of these would be equally effective but to show the BEST GROWTH, you would have to utilize all of them, not just see who can spend the most time raiding.

right now, raiding is highly overpowered because it isn't limited by turns, because turns are unlimited.

well if you really think about it, neither is buying UU or farming.

farm for more naq that you bought the turns for, buy more repeat, sell UU for a higher price you buy for, repeat. there you go mr "i want everything even" they can all be done as much as you want. take your pick.

[311 [TA]]

No, actually, I don't.

I want a balance between raiding, farming, buying UU and UP building as it should be.

if turns were limited, there would be a balance point where all of these would be equally effective but to show the BEST GROWTH, you would have to utilize all of them, not just see who can spend the most time raiding.

right now, raiding is highly overpowered because it isn't limited by turns, because turns are unlimited.

well if you really think about it, neither is buying UU or farming.

farm for more naq that you bought the turns for, buy more repeat, sell UU for a higher price you buy for, repeat. there you go mr "i want everything even" they can all be done as much as you want. take your pick.

AND THEN PEOPLE WITH THE MOST TIME WOULD GET THE MOST

hm.........................seems strangly familar.....lol

[Vendetta]

which means he found better targets. it was the same when there was only farming.

and time SHOULD for count for something... AKA 2 years >6 months

i have also played for 2 years, but you dont see me **Filtered** and whining that people who have been playing for less got ahead of me, they did it because they put effort in, worked out how they can use the games options to thier most potential where as i didnt.

i have played 3 other games like this one, in one of them i played for just under a year before it shut down, i held rank 3 for 7 months straight, on poit at the end i hit rank 2, this was sitting on my UP, and maintaing my rank 1 strike. another game i never fell out of the top 10, sure it was cool being able to just sit there and have no one touch you, but there wa no challenge, no skill, this game is BAY FAR more fun than they ever were and i am currently one of the weakest players you will find abouve 1mill army.

so stop **Filtered** and get on with the game.

[Vendetta]

No, actually, I don't.

I want a balance between raiding, farming, buying UU and UP building as it should be.

if turns were limited, there would be a balance point where all of these would be equally effective but to show the BEST GROWTH, you would have to utilize all of them, not just see who can spend the most time raiding.

right now, raiding is highly overpowered because it isn't limited by turns, because turns are unlimited.

well if you really think about it, neither is buying UU or farming.

farm for more naq that you bought the turns for, buy more repeat, sell UU for a higher price you buy for, repeat. there you go mr "i want everything even" they can all be done as much as you want. take your pick.

AND THEN PEOPLE WITH THE MOST TIME WOULD GET THE MOST

hm.........................seems strangly familar.....lol

dam 311, maybe we should try and get it changed so everyone makes the same amount of money all the time and everyone has to charge the same for everything, that way no one can be spoon fed naq or turns to farm, it would all be you can sit on thier UP

[god]

and if you REALLY want it to be just about who has the most time to spend, maybe the whole game should just evert to it's roots...

back before SGW... back before KoC set the standard for TURN-BASED STRATEGY games... back when KoC was strictly a who could get the most people to click their link game. nothing else. that's all it was. you registered, got a unique link, and sent it out. the ranks showed a list of who had the most clicks.

Oh, but then for the sake of entertainment, the added a game to it, that included a limited amount of turns, account with armies, attacking and defending...

then SGW came along, used the base code, and we spun off into our own direction..

raiding was added, which was great for the game, because it allowed weaker players to try to catch up, and then the market went dry, because everyone's greed had driven them to raid for less UU than they should have, because they hadn't considered the possibility that turns could run out.

and everyone cried. and b!tched. and moaned.

and with one quick line of SQL, forum sent the game back to its roots. back to before strategy was involved. back to when the only thing that mattered was the most clicks.

which is where we have been ever since.

If you think I am wrong, go play a game of monopoly... but instead of following traditional rules, play like this...

normal rules, but instead of taking their turns, people can trade their turn for 1,000 dollars... and instead of taking turns, everyone can take their next turn as soon as they are done with their last turn... hence, whoever takes their turns fastest takes the most turns.

Sit down with 3 other friends, play the game with those rules and tell me the outcopme.

[god]

No, actually, I don't.

I want a balance between raiding, farming, buying UU and UP building as it should be.

if turns were limited, there would be a balance point where all of these would be equally effective but to show the BEST GROWTH, you would have to utilize all of them, not just see who can spend the most time raiding.

right now, raiding is highly overpowered because it isn't limited by turns, because turns are unlimited.

well if you really think about it, neither is buying UU or farming.



farm for more naq that you bought the turns for, buy more repeat, sell UU for a higher price you buy for, repeat. there you go mr "i want everything even" they can all be done as much as you want. take your pick.

not if you take away the unlimited turns smart guy

thanks for proving my point though