Rules and You?

[Flavar]

Fellow players,

i am often surprised bye the standing of the majority of you towards rules and game mechanics.

Meaning if something is vorbidden in the rules but possibel due to the game mechanics its ok. For me such things are cheating. one example is the following.

- Using the broker to overbank (not trading clear intendet overbanking)


Now i want to know why you see it this way and how many trouly believe its ok to break rules and dont see it as cheating.


I personally will never use such tactics and there are others like me,
it was the final nail in the coffin of the Retu way back.-


so what do you think


flavar


PS: i simple have the need for a clean nice discussions- this topic

[[KMA]Avenger]

i dont see over banking as cheating, but yes i would have agree with you that bending some rules to get around them is a form of cheating

i think you need to add, "over banking is ok but thats as far as i go" to the poll flavar

[Zeta - Twitch]

Can you explain how it is cheating if you do it to sell uu???

Or how bout is it cheating when you destory someone accoutn with fast clicking in firefox.

or those who buy 30k mercs in on submit in Merc Market

or having 4 broker when only 3 are allowed.

or multis that steal planets and adbandon them

[RepliMagni]

How is using the broker to overbank possibly considered cheating?

There is no rule against it....and if it were a bug Forum would have removed it a long time ago when it first came to light you could do this.

It is as valid a tactic now as using MTs to go over the 10K turns mark.

IMHO

[[KMA]Avenger]

Flavar used over banking as an example, not a very good one methinks

[RepliMagni]

Well, there are lots of things like this that are perfectly allowed by the rules and in no way to you try and alter the script or anything....you just play by what the game allows you to do....

The rule that came in to try and stop some of the larger abuses was to not exploit bugs....but if this were a bug, why has Forum not removed it months, and months down the line? If Forum is not willing to define the difference between using these methods as bugs or tactics then how are we supposed to know whether we can use them or not?

[Flavar]

you got your option added. and overbanking was just one example and to make clear i dont mean selling masses of Uu. i mean sending naq away to get i back per broker. going over your bank size,

in my opinion there is a max bank size for a reason and if you go arround it or arround the turn limit you are cheating.

thats what i mean. just because its possibel and not stopped due to sripts its still cheating

[Vendetta]

no its not cheating, it provides a way for smaller guys to hold enough naq to do what they need without leaving it out and risk having it stolen in 5 seconds.

i only have a bank of 45bill, many people my size have a bank of over 200-300bill simply cause they have bought more than about 7 PPT's

i have had my bank overflowed a few times, and it is hardly cheating as it does hinder you and cause you to lose money you could save if you dont manage to get rid of it fast enough. i know more often than not i wont be able to find a seller to use the last 50bill or so and so my income that i cant bank either has to go into MS slots or weapons etc when id rather save it to buy more MT's or something.

i think the fact that it is very minor, if it wasnt allowed many trades would not be able to take place and the fact that it can and will disadvantage you in its own right shows it isnt cheating.

[Psi Kiya Trist]

Flavar used over banking as an example, not a very good one methinks

i think it is a good one, as it's something most people understand, and COULD very well be considered a loophole.

in my opnion, there are other things you can do when your bank is full, me, i use the extra naq on my planets.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

[CrimsonFrost]

I would look at it as an opportunity, why not introduce a type of raid that hits only extra money in a persons bank? (Along with the ability to spy on that extra amount.)

[Flavar]

no its not cheating, it provides a way for smaller guys to hold enough naq to do what they need without leaving it out and risk having it stolen in 5 seconds.

i only have a bank of 45bill, many people my size have a bank of over 200-300bill simply cause they have bought more than about 7 PPT's

i have had my bank overflowed a few times, and it is hardly cheating as it does hinder you and cause you to lose money you could save if you dont manage to get rid of it fast enough. i know more often than not i wont be able to find a seller to use the last 50bill or so and so my income that i cant bank either has to go into MS slots or weapons etc when id rather save it to buy more MT's or something.

i think the fact that it is very minor, if it wasnt allowed many trades would not be able to take place and the fact that it can and will disadvantage you in its own right shows it isnt cheating.

i am sure yiou have enough friends you trust that coudl hold the naq for you if you wanted.

Its not hard to do without abusing the feature

[_BlackAsc_]

while in a sence it IS cheating as far as im concerned if EVERYONE is able to use it/knows about it and it stays in the script it isnt really cheating as everyone is able to do it so it is fair game whereas if i can bank unlimited naq and you can't that would be cheating IMO.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i have plenty of friends that can hold such large amounts, unfortunately they are not online when you need them most

i say leave the bank thingy alone, it is needed sometimes.

@ Crimson frost.

dude that only helps the larger players and as such i would class that as an imbalance to the game

[Sleipnir]

while in a sence it IS cheating as far as im concerned if EVERYONE is able to use it/knows about it and it stays in the script it isnt really cheating as everyone is able to do it so it is fair game whereas if i can bank unlimited naq and you can't that would be cheating IMO.

Hmmm, then obviously it is cheating, since you require SS to do it and not everyone has SS. Besides, overbanking isn't named as one of the perks of SS, not everyone knows about it either.

[Nox]

i never used overbanking personnaly, i have a nice bank , but i helped ppl doing that, and i dont see it as cheating, its a way for ppl that dont have a big bank to get what they want, being a spy lvl, anti lvl whatever
i know if i wanted spy lvl 30 i would need to do this, and i would with no probs, cause i dont think its cheating

and if it is, by admin´s eyes, since most ppl (with ss) use it, admin can take care of it easly, so if he doesnt, that means its ok