Ancient Brethren Changes

[Santo]

Welcome The Foundation, it's good to be in your company. Thank god the theme group is not the Village People.

[Avitir]

Bet we raised a few eyebrows with the first step of our new friendship- hehe

We are pleased and honoured to have joined with AB/DB. Welcome to all our new brothers and sisters.

[Robe]

Thanks for all the positives posts.
We appreciate your support.

Our double feature this week is:
Muriel's Wedding and Priscilla Queen of the Desert

[SVaRuN]

Good luck To both alliances.

[High Empty]

Thanks for all the positives posts.
We appreciate your support.

Our double feature this week is:
Muriel's Wedding and Priscilla Queen of the Desert

now from the top people and get it right this time, or i'am going to fed you to the legion.

[Silver Neccho]

Just wondering but from what I read here, on the page that discusses CFs terms of surrender >>>http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/viewforum.php?f=68&topicdays=0&start=550

The terms of their surrender:
Disbandment of CFE, CF Div1, CF Div2, CF Div3, and CF OCS. (all to be disbanded not renamed)

Reparation payments of 1 naq to every alliance in the Grand Alliance.

If Robe does form another alliance, the size of it is limited. They may not assist any enemy of the GA or take in enemies of the GA. Any hostile actions against the members of the GA will bemet with deadly force.

What was the size limit of any alliance that Robe has made and has it been violated?

[RobinInDaHood]

From what I can see, that agreement was made with the GA, which is no more.

[Silver Neccho]

A treaty is a still a treaty, all involved partys must agree to dislove it.

P.S. You cannot just declare a treaty null and void because we no longer have GA. If someone care enough to make a stand the treaty should be upheld!

[*~Starry~*]

technically AB/DB was GA... so...technically, since AB/DB is heading this, so therefore, technically, it can be considered valid

and since GA is not there anymore, nobody can contest it...

[Silver Neccho]

Any former member of the GA can contest it, the treaty was meant as a cease fire agreement, break the agreement and the cease fire is theoratically broken, not saying that a strike will be made.

This treaty did not state how long or under what conditions would be in effect, so, and it did not specifically state that the treaty would be upheld by the GA as a whole. Each and every alliance in the GA had a say, and each and every alliance in the GA did not solely depend on the senate floor of the GA to make each and every decision! So this being said, the decisions came from each and every involved partys COMMAND, not GA command. Remember, the GA only had as much power as we gave it. Kinda like the UN.

My point is that the treaty was not put under GA heading, so it does not require the GA to still be in effect.

[Robe]

A treaty, like any contract, becomes null and void when the Team or Corporation ceases to exist.

Even so the point is moot, the final agreement was:

"If Robe does form another alliance, the size of it is limited."
The reference clearly shows a direct link to the large size of Crystal Force and its Divisions.


Alterans, I am very flattered that you are focusing on me.
However the kudos for our merge lays in the hard work and planning of the Brethren Elders, for which I am just one.

[Silver Neccho]

No sorry Robe, nothing stated that the treaty was anything from indefinite AND it clearly says if you do form an alliance, the size is limited, this meant any alliance you form and the Foundation is one of them.

I call attention to the treaty and hope others will focus on the TRUE intent on why it was made.

[vinny d]

From my understanding of what that treaty was, I would have to side with Robe on this one.

Was it a treaty she signed with the GA? Or did she individually have to agree with every alliance. If it was only an agreement with the GA, then the contract is null amd void.

A man is not a slave of Mr.Jones if Mr. Jones died. If in the will he granted the slave freedom, that is what he did. If he died and gave him to a family member, then the slave is still a slave of Mr. Jones relatives.

So if this agreement was made with the GA, not each respective alliance of the GA, then there is no agreement to uphold unless their was a stipulation in the contract allowing it to still be in agreement if the GA disbanded. Since I do not know, I can not say for sure. However if it does not contain that in the contract, then their is no longer any contract to speak of.



-Edit-
Can someone provide the full treaty so we can fully understand if what Alterans is discussing valid?


Self edit 2

If Robe does form another alliance, the size of it is limited. They may not assist any enemy of the GA or take in enemies of the GA. Any hostile actions against the members of the GA will bemet with deadly force.

What alliances CURRENTLY belong to the GA? To my knowledge the GA is no longer in exsistence.

[[DDE] Bastion]

Just wondering but from what I read here, on the page that discusses CFs terms of surrender >>>http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/viewforum.php?f=68&topicdays=0&start=550

The terms of their surrender:
Disbandment of CFE, CF Div1, CF Div2, CF Div3, and CF OCS. (all to be disbanded not renamed)

Reparation payments of 1 naq to every alliance in the Grand Alliance.

If Robe does form another alliance, the size of it is limited. They may not assist any enemy of the GA or take in enemies of the GA. Any hostile actions against the members of the GA will bemet with deadly force.

What was the size limit of any alliance that Robe has made and has it been violated?

All I see is "If Robe does form another alliance, the size of it is limited."

I don't think she formed AB, and therefor it doesn't matter

[RobinInDaHood]

I call attention to the treaty and hope others will focus on the TRUE intent on why it was made.

What is your interpretation of the "true" intent?