re: turns/turn ; superweapon bidding ; ascended attacks

[Cobolt]

I wonder how long this game will last with all the top players leaving ...hmmmmm

Not a good idea, basic human culture thing is that if you create a void somebody else will step up and fill it...

Aka, quit and you have achieved nothing but leaving, your seat will only be taken by somebody else that still are "hungry" for it.

[Hammond]

Well then everyone needs to stop bashing it... You can bash the update when it is released and when you have some evidence to base your argument/bashing on.

Bottom line: Let's wait and see... He's going to release it either way

In fact, I risk offense on that front in this attempt, but will trial it regardless.

Notice the word "trial"

What do we need evidence for?
Forum has told us what he will be changing.

[Cobolt]

An open post to the rest of you discussing this update,

This update will shurley be like most before, released, tested, modyfied and only then "static", right now we all see that it is somewhat "out of tune", but I´d recommend that you give admin some slack here and let him work on it for a while and help out with feedback insted of rage.

I´m shure that we all will get some turns to play with once this has been worked on for a while.

(I raid A LOT and are also frozen in time right now...)

[Munchy]

well nothing has happened because the turn is frozen for everyone.

that is not the update

Well then everyone needs to stop bashing it... You can bash the update when it is released and when you have some evidence to base your argument/bashing on.

Bottom line: Let's wait and see... He's going to release it either way

In fact, I risk offense on that front in this attempt, but will trial it regardless.

Notice the word "trial"

i was under the impression that the development server was there for that very reason?

The development server was used to test descention I believe, and that was it. Descention held the power to change the balance of both the ascended server and the main server, which is why it needed to be tested through and through. I don't think some giving more at's to low ranked guys holds that same potential. The turn update simply means high ranked guys will have to carefully consider who they want to descend/raid and use their at's on. I don't think it will change the balance of power in the game though, considering as the newbs gain power they will also slow down themselves. We shall see though.

[unification]

I don’t like the part about the super weapon.

But I don’t really care about the part about the black hole. It’s only the action turns that are effected, not the planets or DMU.
So the smaller guys have some more ATs, big deal.
We don’t now how much more they have, but even if they get like 100% more turns, will it really help them to close the gap with the big players?
I don’t think so, because how much planets do the smaller guy raid per 15 ATs? Perhaps 500 or 1000, so that’s like 20k each week.

[Sleipnir]

I dont even know why I'm respawnding to this, its not like we will see another post from Forum/Jason. What is done is done and it wont change.

Which is exactly the reason this forum is here, right? Forum never does anything with player feedback.

If you can't find enough arguments to back up your case, using the argument "Grow up" is pretty immature and thus better directed at yourself.

I wonder how long this game will last with all the top players leaving ...hmmmmm

If they're unwilling to fight to keep their position, then good riddance. I'm sure a second tier will stand up to take over from them. I find it pretty sad that every time an update is proposed that in any way disadvantages the top players, they threaten to leave. If only they would follow through.

[Tyicius]

Well then everyone needs to stop bashing it... You can bash the update when it is released and when you have some evidence to base your argument/bashing on.

Bottom line: Let's wait and see... He's going to release it either way

In fact, I risk offense on that front in this attempt, but will trial it regardless.

Notice the word "trial"

hey <MODDED> what do we need evidence for?
Forum has told us what he will be changing.

Forum has indeed told us what he intends to change and how he intends to change it but, we do not know the rate at which the turns will be supplied.

That is why I asked the questions:

My one question: In 48 turns(rounds) how many AT will:
Rank 1 receive?
Rank 100 receive ?
Rank 1000 receive?

[[DDE] Bastion]

I dont even know why I'm respawnding to this, its not like we will see another post from Forum/Jason. What is done is done and it wont change.

Which is exactly the reason this forum is here, right? Forum never does anything with player feedback.

If you can't find enough arguments to back up your case, using the argument "Grow up" is pretty immature and thus better directed at yourself.

I wonder how long this game will last with all the top players leaving ...hmmmmm

If they're unwilling to fight to keep their position, then good riddance. I'm sure a second tier will stand up to take over from them. I find it pretty sad that every time an update is proposed that in any way disadvantages the top players, they threaten to leave. If only they would follow through.

Glad you want an update that would screw those who worked to get to where they are. I know that if this happens, I'll sell, get a new account, ascend quick, and chances are that in 3 months I'll get the super weapon in my hands, screw those who have worked on their accounts for 2 years... Fair? Only in your eyes.

[Tyicius]

Wait... Has anyone actually used the superweapon? How much damage does it inflict upon an account?

[Profitteroles]

I dont even know why I'm respawnding to this, its not like we will see another post from Forum/Jason. What is done is done and it wont change.

Which is exactly the reason this forum is here, right? Forum never does anything with player feedback.

If you can't find enough arguments to back up your case, using the argument "Grow up" is pretty immature and thus better directed at yourself.

I wonder how long this game will last with all the top players leaving ...hmmmmm

If they're unwilling to fight to keep their position, then good riddance. I'm sure a second tier will stand up to take over from them. I find it pretty sad that every time an update is proposed that in any way disadvantages the top players, they threaten to leave. If only they would follow through.

The reason updates like this are comming out is because players are complaining that they cant catch up with players that are doin 5 10 or 20mill app ascentions and the fact remains that if they was doing similar size ascentions then they could instead they would rather moan about them being so far ahead when infact they should be working their arses off working towards doing these huge app ascentions.

[Sleipnir]

Glad you want an update that would screw those who worked to get to where they are. I know that if this happens, I'll sell, get a new account, ascend quick, and chances are that in 3 months I'll get the super weapon in my hands, screw those who have worked on their accounts for 2 years... Fair? Only in your eyes.

So how is it different from main? Someone could very well do now in a month what I have done over the past 2 years. I guess I'll quit main because I got screwed with the market update, raid, miners and god knows what else. Please, do sell up now. Start over and try catching up to 2 years of work with 1 AT every 30 minutes. Good luck.

[Hensenshi]

Forum has indeed told us what he intends to change and how he intends to change it but, we do not know the rate at which the turns will be supplied.

I doubt that many people care about the turns. Everyone will just exploit it like they did the rank mod. What matters is the superweapon rule. Basically, any idiot snob can end up with the superweapon and smash a top level account.

Wait... Has anyone actually used the superweapon? How much damage does it inflict upon an account?

The superweapon has been used multiple times. It untrains every planet, destorys every weapon, destroys 5% of your total planets, and then puts 10% of the remaining planets into resource planets.

[Tyicius]

Profitteroles is right. There's too many people complaining about how powerful you guys are in ascension, how they'll never catch up and yet they've only recently ascended. I started out ranked around 1,800 and now i'm almost in the top 100. Hard work, strategy and determination pay off. You can't become all powerful in one day and that's what a lot of people need to realize.

Forum has indeed told us what he intends to change and how he intends to change it but, we do not know the rate at which the turns will be supplied.

I doubt that many people care about the turns. Everyone will just exploit it like they did the rank mod. What matters is the superweapon rule. Basically, any idiot snob can end up with the superweapon and smash a top level account.

Wait... Has anyone actually used the superweapon? How much damage does it inflict upon an account?

The superweapon has been used multiple times. It untrains every planet, destorys every weapon, destroys 5% of your total planets, and then puts 10% of the remaining planets into resource planets.

Wow... That's way too much damage.. Forum needs to dial back the superweapon

Maybe there could be a ranking system almost like what we have for raiding in Main. (That's just the idea not the actually x10 your rank)

[Hensenshi]

The development server was used to test descention I believe, and that was it. Descention held the power to change the balance of both the ascended server and the main server, which is why it needed to be tested through and through.

The dev server has been used for more than just testing descension. There's been at least twice that I can remember dev in ascension.

I don't think some giving more at's to low ranked guys holds that same potential. The turn update simply means high ranked guys will have to carefully consider who they want to descend/raid and use their at's on. I don't think it will change the balance of power in the game though, considering as the newbs gain power they will also slow down themselves. We shall see though.

It's not the more turns that matters, it's the superweapon update.

[Sleipnir]

The reason updates like this are comming out is because players are complaining that they cant catch up with players that are doin 5 10 or 20mill app ascentions and the fact remains that if they was doing similar size ascentions then they could instead they would rather moan about them being so far ahead when infact they should be working their arses off working towards doing these huge app ascentions.

Excuse me, AP's were meant as a starting bonus, not the main ascension resource. The working your ass off part should come when you're ascended, and it should be possible to catch up to someone who started off with a fat bonus.