The official "thoughts on the CoP CIA war" thread

[REK]

hes just in love with Rhett

[J.S.]

Rhett

EDIT: LMAO it does work.... Oh whoever thought of that should win an award..

Anyway em Hmm ok Im spamming cos I can't remember what this thread is actually about give me a few mins and I will look at it lol

EDIT 2: Oh right CIA/CoP war..

Ok since noone listens I think

CoP should say No surrender to any alliance who joins in so they will be permantly smashed their account ID's saved and that will be that.. Would stop further alliances joining in and would put even more pressure on the existing allinaces especially if they leave Command members out of massings farmings.. Thats what I would do if I were in their position cos then the "troops" would be demoralised and blame command members for getting them into crap Then say the ONLY way that they will be left alone is if CIA command surrenders completely

And CIA you guys need to descend the leaders of CoP, and ht big mouths of this war, I mean come on guys.. Theres like hundreds of ya you mean to tell me that NONE of you can descend them.. And then mass them again and again.. I mean reborn still has a defence.. No wonder CoP are so smug all the time..

I really REALLY hope I get slated for this post becuase NONE of you are going to win this war unless ye change your tactics.. And the worst thing is that I am suggesting something different and NOONE will take my advice oh well..

[thorslittleworld]

GOD I got to page 2 and gave up

here are some hard FACTS

NO one or alliance will win this, IT WILL end up ether by CIA slowely falling into surrender or pull out

FACTS anyone with 1 weapon and a low income compared to farming income will benefit

FACT the only ones that WILL lose will be those who have large armies and have more naq than there farming taken

FACT it is those who have large incomes who are funding this war

FACT this war is the best thing to happen for those who would not normally hit for billions of naq cos of there size or the defenses they would hit in peacetime

THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES IN COP PERIOD NO ALLIANCE IN THERE WILL SURRENDER BECAUSE ITS NOT IN THERE VOCABLIARY AND THEY WONT GIVE CIA THE SATISFACTION

[Hells__Angel]

FACT Detol protects!

Sorry, couldnt resist.

Good points Thor mate

[Alabrax]

GOD I got to page 2 and gave up

here are some hard FACTS

NO one or alliance will win this, IT WILL end up ether by CIA slowely falling into surrender or pull out

FACTS anyone with 1 weapon and a low income compared to farming income will benefit

FACT the only ones that WILL lose will be those who have large armies and have more naq than there farming taken

FACT it is those who have large incomes who are funding this war

FACT this war is the best thing to happen for those who would not normally hit for billions of naq cos of there size or the defenses they would hit in peacetime

THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES IN COP PERIOD NO ALLIANCE IN THERE WILL SURRENDER BECAUSE ITS NOT IN THERE VOCABLIARY AND THEY WONT GIVE CIA THE SATISFACTION

Well the only one I do not agree with is CIA Slowly falling apart. You might drive off some of the smaller and less committed alliances but there is a core that is not just holding on to this war out stubborn pride like COP. We are growing, we are having fun and we do not want this period of the game to end.

[generaloneill]

And CIA you guys need to descend the leaders of CoP, and ht big mouths of this war, I mean come on guys.. Theres like hundreds of ya you mean to tell me that NONE of you can descend them.. And then mass them again and again.. I mean reborn still has a defence.. No wonder CoP are so smug all the time..

Right Jamie, this coming from someone who left the game cos it would have been too costly for you to ascend even ONCE. Lmgdao!

[|ninja|]

NO one or alliance will win this, IT WILL end up ether by CIA slowely falling into surrender or pull out

Not that I agree with you, but what are the reasons for basing such a claim? (if you do actually have reasons). It doesn't make sense for CIA to surrender... surrender and do what? Go back to stat building? Let CoP go back to un-challenged growth and domination (more so than ever before)? May as well quit than let that happen :/

[J.S.]

And CIA you guys need to descend the leaders of CoP, and ht big mouths of this war, I mean come on guys.. Theres like hundreds of ya you mean to tell me that NONE of you can descend them.. And then mass them again and again.. I mean reborn still has a defence.. No wonder CoP are so smug all the time..

Right Jamie, this coming from someone who left the game cos it would have been too costly for you to ascend even ONCE. Lmgdao!

I had a point to prove and I did hehe And I'm just saying what the strongest points are

[Avitir]

I assure you of this..you will NEVER win! As for the CIA becoming a 2nd CoP, highly unlikely. They do not have the leadership, the infrastructure, the will but most importantly the friendship with each other that is needed. It is a huge mistake to assume the CoP stay together for game reasons. It is loyalty and friendship that maintains the CoP..and this war has contributed hugely in that growth.

In every previous war, the CoP leaders talked to each other and the alliances usually did their own thing. but this war we have communicated with the masses. I have gotten to know so many DD/DDE members who now regularly contact me for whatever reason. Even ppl like inferno, who I always felt had anti omegan sentiments, we talk more often and such. We have truly become an enlarged community, in the true spirit of the game.

Are Omega ruthless? Yes we are! But we always go after ppl with a reason. A reason most don't know about but there is always a reason. The EPA have some sort of personal rivalry with us which is a joke. During the last omega/epa war they had access to our forums and there was not one anti epa thread there, yet on their forums there were many anti omegan. I understand why the TA dislike us, why Robe does....

On the war itself, I think the ill feeling has truly reached epic proportions. I personally have lost alot of respect for who I term hypocrites. I won't name names, but in the past they have come running to me and stating things like 'yeah I also believe Extremer cheats', but when it suits them they don't mind allying with someone they believe cheats.

And all this nonsense about propaganda..One can't even post the truth without the other side stating it's propaganda. This may be only a game, but people use your common sense and don't be so naive. Do not condone something just because the person is on your side.

The most amusing thing in this whole war was the boycott. Now really, would there be a single anti cop, anti omega or anti etl thread if this was a biased CoP forum. Everything that the CIA typed contradicted that 'bold' and UNTRUE statement. Would you all be up for a little experiment? Ask the mods to delete every thread that talks negatively about the CoP, Omega or myself. We'll see how much the forum has shrunk after that!

I issue you with this warning ETL- do not confuse convenience with friendship- in some ways your very best friend in this game is actually Robe (if you would like I can explain to you why later). An understanding of political/alliance style machinations will show very clearly that all such alliances as CoP and even CIA are based purely on convenience.

I give you an example (whether true or untrue I do not know). I can point to the murmerings from within CoP about the convenience between Omega and DD who rule the roost in ascended. The murmerings have rumbled that once Omega overtake DD in ascended then that convenience will come to an end. I suppose time will tell but it is human nature that these conveniences come to an end. If they were such great friends why are they not all Omegans and vice versa?

To use your words because you some it up on another point very nicely- "On the war itself, I think the ill feeling has truly reached epic proportions. I personally have lost alot of respect for who I term hypocrites." I agree but this is not as inferred sinularly a CIA problem- CoP also contains hypocrits as well- what are you going to do about them?

To also quote ETL again as it is well said- "And all this nonsense about propaganda..One can't even post the truth without the other side stating it's propaganda. This may be only a game, but people use your common sense and don't be so naive. Do not condone something just because the person is on your side." I agree with you there- I may disagree with what you say but I will stand up and fight for your right to say it. I also recognise that the SGW world according to you is the truth and what you are doing is right, but myself on the other side of the fence also think that what I am doing is the truth and right and just. The truth is just different shades of grey- nobody completely right or completely wrong.

[thorslittleworld]

|ninja| said

Not that I agree with you, but what are the reasons for basing such a claim? (if you do actually have reasons). It doesn't make sense for CIA to surrender... surrender and do what? Go back to stat building? Let CoP go back to un-challenged growth and domination (more so than ever before)? May as well quit than let that happen :/

My claim is this

COP alliances have been together for a long time, and they support each other very well

CIA are a group of alliances, who have admitted that they will at the end of war not exist

self preservation, at some point the members will want the war over so that they can once again either stat build, sell resources, trade, help there friends, be able to go away from there account for hours, not waste time having to keep farming well the list goes on and on,, its not everyones cup of tea

so they will put pressure on the HC's or leave the alliance ect, and you will see the support for war slowly edge away

so the alliances will either withdraw or surrender, leaving only the hardcore alliances to continue

I would say there are about 4 of the alliances that will continue.

to coin a phrase "COP are too damn stubborn to quit"

thats what I base my observations on, and nope I am not one of those who wants this war over. I am where I expected to be when war broke out, and if you can accept that then you can stay in the war indefenantly

it all about how you work it in your head, you either deal with it or you leave period !

[Theta Sigma]

GOD I got to page 2 and gave up

here are some hard FACTS

NO one or alliance will win this, IT WILL end up ether by CIA slowely falling into surrender or pull out

FACTS anyone with 1 weapon and a low income compared to farming income will benefit

FACT the only ones that WILL lose will be those who have large armies and have more naq than there farming taken

FACT it is those who have large incomes who are funding this war

FACT this war is the best thing to happen for those who would not normally hit for billions of naq cos of there size or the defenses they would hit in peacetime

THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES IN COP PERIOD NO ALLIANCE IN THERE WILL SURRENDER BECAUSE ITS NOT IN THERE VOCABLIARY AND THEY WONT GIVE CIA THE SATISFACTION

FACT - The Federation Against Copyright Theft.

sorry. couldn't resist.

[Nikko]

There is just no point in quitting..for either side.

If CIA quit, they will have achieved nothing. CoP will still be there and things will go back to where they were before the war. That is no better. Quite frankly, I would not want to play this game any more if there was still a CoP. I think most of us CIA guys & gals feel the same and so we will not be surrendering. Ever. The only options are that CoP are gone, or both of us are gone imo.
If CoP quit, CIA will have been victorious. We all know that they are way too proud to admit defeat no matter how badly they are mashed. This is perhaps true for both sides really.