The war

[SSG EnterTheLion]

lmao, it's a title I am actually called by..all the men in my family are..the women are called memsahib. I wondered when someone would find the meaning. It is amusing.

PS: 311 feel free to pass it on to Jason, he knows my views on this very well.

okay your views to treat people unequally ........ and actually tell people in your alliance not to report bugs

im sure admin appreciates a member in your position telling players to do this, i believe he would like everyones help in reporting bugs i find it horrible that a person in your power would talk in the way you talked

i have seen repeated many times over now

how you tell lies, you are now telling people in your alliance not to report bugs which means u would be encouraging bug exploiters ........if you know of a bug you should report it, i cant belive a admin is saying such things

you even show such disrespect that you would bring alliance relationships into such a serious matter as having an account hacked, i cant belive this .... if you had your account hacked, or anyone in cop, i would want it fixed asap, but u r saying otherwise for cia players and i cannot belive this

yes i will make my opinon known to jason

and i will make sure to have others pass their opinons on as well

and don't even start with your not being serious reply

anytime you are caught with saying something that is very bad or mean or not really koscher with people you bring out oh i was joking, u shouldnt even joke about such serious matters

and to joke about bug exploiting or hacking isnt even funny so no matter what you have not done great service to this forum for saying such things

i am appalled at your comments .........appalled oh yeaaaaaaah!

lmao I'm amused..grow up! When you have two MAJOR bug exploiters in your own alliance. If it wasn't for my help, hundreds of players wouldn't have been playing this game bug free..so don't give me your **Filtered**.

I am simply choosing to not go out of my way in helping ungrateful bastards who typify the sort of behaviour you have shown. Give me one good reason that I should help some enemy get back their account after all the abuse you lot spew. So if u have ingame problems, don't come to me for help. And I am totally serious!

[311 [TA]]

here is the 1 good reason

because it is the right thing to do ......

do not justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior


i am able to seperate my problems with u as a player and a mod/admin if you don't let them get mixed up with each other which can be hard to do I will admit

and i just would like that mod/admin to treat people fairly even the whiny little snots that dont appreciate him because thats what you should do

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so what i am asking for is

that you treat a player such as myself which might have a disagreement with you here and there

the same as you would treat REK or STI when it comes to matters that need a FORUM ADMIN in anyway oh yeaaaaaaah

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heres another way of looking at it

a forum mod/admin is like a police officer in many ways

they have to enforce the rules/laws equally to all people

they must be objective in these actions

they must punish their best friends, and even help out their enemy when the law tells them so .........

if the law has loop holes you change the rules to be better written

but a admin.mod cannot stop his impartiallty in these actions

if this happens things fall apart and get nasty

which is what im upset about by your comments being that you are the head of the forums

[Robe]

Players should never ever be made an admin of any kind.

The system needs to be changed.

Power of the press gives an advantage to the side that the player represents.

I am not saying ETL does a bad job as Shaitan Forum Admin.

I am saying that a player, any player, can never be objective.

[Phoenix of Terra]

Agree with all of that. ETL does a good job of trying to be neutral as shaitan, or at least changing profiles if he wants to choose a side.

--Edit--
Though some of Shaitan's posts did make more sense when I figured out the person behind them.

[*zesh*]

no i think he meant sahib as in the hindi word for master

tis the equivalent of sir in english

I like that idea, because it would basically give the impression of an arrogant prat who has two much power, too much time, and not enough common sense.

I'm sure EtL has a better reason though.

well thats actually quite insulting as that term is still commonly used in by colonial families who where brought up in India, as ETL was.

Asian culture is all about respect younger siblings will not even call older brothers and sisters by there name will instead use older brother or sister, to give you but one example. Another is commonly a wife calling her husbands name by there oldest sons name and adding father. There are many many others.

And btw i live in the UK, was born here and lived here all my life. I am well educated and go to 1 of the best schools in the country. My family are are affluent businessmen / managers in various fields of computing and live a fully integrated life in western society. But we still keep some of asian culture and some if its mentioned here.

[reborn]

so u r saying that ETL is like a policeman ok

so what happens in RL then when u give a policemen a hard time, but then another day u want help?

ill tell ya nothing they might have to but deep down everyone knows if u r giving someone a hard time they aint going to help and if they do its going to take a lot longer than what it would have

[LBWMTE- D4rk S1de]

so u r saying that ETL is like a policeman ok

so what happens in RL then when u give a policemen a hard time, but then another day u want help?

ill tell ya nothing they might have to but deep down everyone knows if u r giving someone a hard time they aint going to help and if they do its going to take a lot longer than what it would have

I disagree, I know I am too moral sometimes, but when something bad happens, I help someone no matter who they are, it isn't about who they are, its about who you are and what type of person you want to be.

[~Phoenix~]

lol now people are whining about him syaing he wont help.

You whine about his help and then you whine when he wont help, what can anyone do?

[Rienna]

lol now people are whining about him syaing he wont help.

You whine about his help and then you whine when he wont help, what can anyone do?

nothing. but then you'd whine that they were doing nothing


it's a sad but true story... nothing we do is good enough

[S T I]

Sorry 311 but you used the worse example you could think of, (i know what you mean&it should be)

Quote 311
heres another way of looking at it

a forum mod/admin is like a police officer in many ways

they have to enforce the rules/laws equally to all people

they must be objective in these actions

they must punish their best friends, and even help out their enemy when the law tells them so .........

if the law has loop holes you change the rules to be better written

but a admin.mod cannot stop his impartiallty in these actions

if this happens things fall apart and get nasty

which is what im upset about by your comments being that you are the head of the forums
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The Police around the world are being reported for abuse of there powers all the time, they know about crimes by there fellow officers but do not report it, there job is to look for facts to prove a person gulty or innocent ,if the facts show other wise, innocent. these facts/information in a lot of cases is ignored, just to get results.

[SSG EnterTheLion]

lol once again amusing 311. But as a FORUM admin, my duties DO NOT INCLUDE helping people with any problems ingame. The game and the forum are two distinct fields. I used to do that voluntarily, but as I've stated above, why bother. You have any idea how many people message me to speak to admin on their behalf b/c they've been banned/hacked or some other problem? Plenty..and many of them are in what is now the CIA.

So now I'm simply following a policy that the rest of you, INCLUDING YOU, follow, ignore them! They can email admin the old fashioned way and wait for a reply. And don't talk to me about how it's the right thing to do when you have two major bug exploiters in your own alliance. PROVEN bug exploiters, admitted by their own actions.

[SSG EnterTheLion]

no i think he meant sahib as in the hindi word for master

tis the equivalent of sir in english

I like that idea, because it would basically give the impression of an arrogant prat who has two much power, too much time, and not enough common sense.

I'm sure EtL has a better reason though.

well thats actually quite insulting as that term is still commonly used in by colonial families who where brought up in India, as ETL was.

Asian culture is all about respect younger siblings will not even call older brothers and sisters by there name will instead use older brother or sister, to give you but one example. Another is commonly a wife calling her husbands name by there oldest sons name and adding father. There are many many others.

And btw i live in the UK, was born here and lived here all my life. I am well educated and go to 1 of the best schools in the country. My family are are affluent businessmen / managers in various fields of computing and live a fully integrated life in western society. But we still keep some of asian culture and some if its mentioned here.

lol mate your wasting your time on the ignorant.. how can they understand the sophistication of cultures when they've never even been out of their own country.

[LBWMTE- D4rk S1de]

no i think he meant sahib as in the hindi word for master

tis the equivalent of sir in english

I like that idea, because it would basically give the impression of an arrogant prat who has two much power, too much time, and not enough common sense.

I'm sure EtL has a better reason though.

well thats actually quite insulting as that term is still commonly used in by colonial families who where brought up in India, as ETL was.

Asian culture is all about respect younger siblings will not even call older brothers and sisters by there name will instead use older brother or sister, to give you but one example. Another is commonly a wife calling her husbands name by there oldest sons name and adding father. There are many many others.

And btw i live in the UK, was born here and lived here all my life. I am well educated and go to 1 of the best schools in the country. My family are are affluent businessmen / managers in various fields of computing and live a fully integrated life in western society. But we still keep some of asian culture and some if its mentioned here.

lol mate your wasting your time on the ignorant.. how can they understand the sophistication of cultures when they've never even been out of their own country.

Who's making assumptions now? Remember EtL, whenever you assume, you make an ASS of U and ME. If you ereally had this respect why would you impose the term master to be used by everyone when you don't know htem, it is an immature thing to do, if you had wanted the word modded, you should have changed in to EnterTheLion, not something which just comes accross stuck up.

[311 [TA]]

Sorry 311 but you used the worse example you could think of, (i know what you mean&it should be)

Quote 311
heres another way of looking at it

a forum mod/admin is like a police officer in many ways

they have to enforce the rules/laws equally to all people

they must be objective in these actions

they must punish their best friends, and even help out their enemy when the law tells them so .........

if the law has loop holes you change the rules to be better written

but a admin.mod cannot stop his impartiallty in these actions

if this happens things fall apart and get nasty

which is what im upset about by your comments being that you are the head of the forums
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The Police around the world are being reported for abuse of there powers all the time, they know about crimes by there fellow officers but do not report it, there job is to look for facts to prove a person gulty or innocent ,if the facts show other wise, innocent. these facts/information in a lot of cases is ignored, just to get results.

In America that is called corruption.

And police officers are fired, and prosecuted often for such offenses.

I am not saying that the police officers of the world are not corrupt in places.

I was just giving an analogy of what a Police Officer is SUPPOSED TO DO!

Much like ETL and what HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO!

The fact that both may not be doing this and may bring dishonor to the uniform or position they hold is really not at issue.

Example in local area for me.

A border patrol agent in texas shot at a drug dealer scum and then him and his partner tried to cover it up and broke regulations.

Guess what him and his partner are in jail for shooting at the guy and covering it up and not following protocol.

They were held responsible for their actions and they were not above the law and they have to treat every person equally that crosses the border illegally from a drug dealer to a little child.

If they shot a little child everyone would understand why they are in jail but they still broke the law when they shot a man in his back that was a drug dealer.

You apply the law equally to all people, that is the idea.

The fact that may not happen at all times is not an excuse to continue applying rules differently.

When a major example of these said rules being broken is found usually the higher up the person is the bigger example would be made by punishing the person.

The police thing was a side thought I had and not the main point of my post.

ETL anyone that cheats in any fashion that you have evidence of, I am sure you have shown admin and he has either decided to punish or not punish them.

I encourage you to share all evidence you have with admin about anyone cheating in anyway. And i am in 100% agreement with you to have any player cheating to be banned, have account reset or whatever punishement admin deems appropriate for the severity of the crime.

Now I wish you both good luck in the rest of this war,lets have a good week. oh yeaaaaah!

[SSG EnterTheLion]

no i think he meant sahib as in the hindi word for master

tis the equivalent of sir in english

I like that idea, because it would basically give the impression of an arrogant prat who has two much power, too much time, and not enough common sense.

I'm sure EtL has a better reason though.

well thats actually quite insulting as that term is still commonly used in by colonial families who where brought up in India, as ETL was.

Asian culture is all about respect younger siblings will not even call older brothers and sisters by there name will instead use older brother or sister, to give you but one example. Another is commonly a wife calling her husbands name by there oldest sons name and adding father. There are many many others.

And btw i live in the UK, was born here and lived here all my life. I am well educated and go to 1 of the best schools in the country. My family are are affluent businessmen / managers in various fields of computing and live a fully integrated life in western society. But we still keep some of asian culture and some if its mentioned here.

lol mate your wasting your time on the ignorant.. how can they understand the sophistication of cultures when they've never even been out of their own country.

Who's making assumptions now? Remember EtL, whenever you assume, you make an ASS of U and ME. If you ereally had this respect why would you impose the term master to be used by everyone when you don't know htem, it is an immature thing to do, if you had wanted the word modded, you should have changed in to EnterTheLion, not something which just comes accross stuck up.

When you truly understand the meaning and the culture behind it, come talk to me. You can't be called 'stuck up' for a title actually used.