Time Limit on Re-Ascending

[Myseri]

I think there should be a time limit on how quickly you can re-ascend. This is because I see people in the top 100 already who just recently re-ascended. I know you guys set away money/untrained when you ascended but not everyone can do that, this why I suggest for the people who didn't/can't do that, to let them have chance to catch up. Shoot me down if you want, it is just a suggestion though...

[Silent Todd]

People have already re-ascended?

[Myseri]

No but there are people in the top 10 and top 100 that will be able to re-ascend before too long.

[chunkysoup]

that kinda sucks

[Myseri]

Yea, thats what I am thinkin' chunky

[RepliMagni]

Kinda sucks but if they have the resources to be able to do that then I say congrats to them.

If I supported this time limit then you could make it so that you can't reascend before you can be descended...that kind of time limit.

[smooshable]

Simple solution: aditional ascensions should cost more. I'd also like to find a way to stop the UU leaving behind thing.

[Angelus]

I am a no on this one, but then i plan to ascent again in the week.

Why stop people ascending quickley. I makes it more fair for those that didn't have to foresight to save first, or did not have the ability to keep the resources needed, but the point of reascending is to reward those that can.

[Fox]

I have to be honest, I have to agree with the people that want the time limit or something to be changed with the current system.
I have been playing this game since very near its begining. Thats a good 8-9 months. It took me that long to build a character that was worthy to ascend.
I will admit that I put aside units and cash to help my shell but it wasnt because I wanted to ascend quicker, it was because after 8-9 months of work on one character, I didnt want to see all of that hard work disappear.
I am not saying that I dont plan on reascending as well (especially with the new races) but I can see the current system being abused.
Now that the new ascended races get a +5% bonus to every stat when they reascend, all they have to do is ascend 20 times at 2 weeks a pop and they have a character with +100% to every stat in the same time it took to build their main character the first time. Tell me that isnt a form of abuse of the current system.
I know, I know its how the game was built and I am NOT saying that the already re-ascended are cheating, but I would have to hear it from Forums own mouth in order for me to be convinced that this is how he wanted the game be.

[nebulator]

i, of course because i want to reascend soon, want to have no time limit. i thought like fox did that it would take forever to catch back up, but honestly if i had known it was this easy b4 i would have been up here when i had way more stuff than i do now, it just requares flawless skill and strategy which i think i am getting close to but no there yet since others are above me on main that ascended

[Fox]

I was wondering who would be the first to take me out of context and screw up the meaning of my post. Thank you for being the first.

For starters, When did I ever say that I thought it would take forever to catch up? Answer : I DIDN'T.

Secondly, FLAWLESS SKILL AND STRATEGY? Are you freakin' kidding me??? What skill was involved when you kept all your (and not just you, me included) untrained units behind to give your shell a headstart on your next path to ascension? What strategy was it we used when we left behind billions in naquada to get a level 20+ covert and a 2000+ UP?

Call it what it is people. We abused the system. We didnt care that our ascended accounts would get less ascension points if we didnt take our naq and untrained units with us because we knew (or at least planned) to have a boosted shell account that would make up for it after we ascended again.

I am just disappointed it takes such a small amount time and effort to do so. I had hoped that each ascension would cost more each time and make it harder in turn. That doesnt appear to be the case (from what I am reading).

I will be the first to admit that I hoped to abuse the system by keeping troops and naq behind, but to be honest, I am now disappointed in myself for doing so, because I have become a part of the problem that has since been created by this abuse.

I dont have a definative solution but I wish I did because if people continue on this path, the situation is going to spiral out of control. If anyone here thought that things were unbalanced before...you just wait 2-3 months when people have ascended 4-6 times and have +20% to+30% in every stat and thats just the first few months after release. For those of you who thought that people that abuse of PPT was bad... HA! You get a FREE PPT when you ascend! This is going to cause complete and total outrage if the system doesnt change. I am calling it now.

[RepliMagni]

I was never one of the strongest in main, I'll admit that. However I put almost everything I had into ascension and went up with 6194 ascension points.

The only reason my main account has troops in it is because __spark$ stole 100K off me before I ascended and were forced to send them to my shell account.

I think it does undermine the system to have it so easy. A time limit would stop ascension from becoming as easy to win as main became.....and would stop ascended people from becoming too powerful in main.

[Acronon]

I don't think limiting the amount of time is the right way to go.

I think it should be more on the side of 1,000 glory points to ascend the first time and then 2,000 the second time and then 3,000 the thrid time and so forth and so on.

Since we get those bonuses the increase in required glory points should help to bring balance to the system.

It could also be done so that you get less and less per troops and such from your shell for each ascension, making it so that to really gain alot for your ascension account you really need to ascend with everything you have.

And I will admit that I too saved back troops and naq, not as much as some, but I did do it, and if the system remains the same I will do it again.

[chunkysoup]

im with fox, i too left troops behind, almost all of us did (only one off the top of my head who didnt is jgg), but i had only 60k to leave behind, not 600k (NOT personal attack on anyone, no matter what you all may think).

The point is, i feel like i abused the system, but at that point in time, I knew damn near everyone else would too, and it was either leave troops behind or get my ass kicked solidly in ascension when everyone else has reascened 5 times already and all ive managed to do is break 10000 rank...

and the whole "how much you leave behind depends on your unit production" thing? how is that supposed to stop us? once we have our shell accounts with 100k+ troops, and we plan to ascend in 3 weeks, what do we care about troop production? heck half of us might reascend with 1 unit production (raw, officers not counted of course), so we'd be able to send almost everything back again...

After all this, do I have a solid plan for how to stop this? No, not at all. It seems as if a general time limit on re-ascending might be the best way to go, but that has too many flaws, and in some (rare) cases, it might actually punish better players. I can only call on all of you to see that what we're doing is the easy, cowardly way to handle this. Supposedly, we're the best players in the game! Why are we all so scared of a challenge? Why are we all so scared of a fair fight, or better yet, of an unfair fight, but one in which the odds are stacked against us?

-chunkysoup

[Lørd Søbek]

i started from scratch, no troops loans, nothing, although i did have some pending deals going on market-wise so i got some ut that way, but i put my all into ascending. And its paid off nicely up there