VT Tragedy/Gun Control

[Lord_Grant]

Tell ya what. I got a good (okat 2) examples.
Terrorists use teh Internet for recruiting.
LETS BAN INTERNET!!!!!!!! It is used for Vile purposes. Sure most wont ever use it for bad acts but some DO!! lets get rid of it!!!!!!!
Number 2. I know of WELL over 30 Kids under teh age of 12 who have handled and use firearms. Know WHY there hasnt been any accidents?
Because we have grown up around firearms. been taught HOW to use them. Anyone who would be caught playing "Cowboys ,and Indians" pointing a real gun at someone would get his ass kicked. if a gun is ACCIDENTALLY pointed at someone your in trouble.
I have had a .22 rifle since i was 10 years old. Some of my best memories are going out hunting with it. I didnt. AND WONT go on a massive shooting... I would have plenty of oppurtiniies.
Myself i believe that EVERYONE has a right to thier opinion. EVEN anti-gunners.... But do the news or other anti-gunners feel that way? Ina recent news article they interviewd a number of guncontrol activists... Did they show the OTHER side of view??? NO. In the last half dozen news interviews only ONE side has been displayed.
That belief ALSO should apply to others... If a gun-owner NEEDS selfdefence he should be allowed it. the LA riots are a PRIME example.
1 last thing....
If you REALLY think mroe school shootings would happen if guns were allowed on-campus..... all i can do is say i am sorry you think so.
P.S. @ Urban Assault. PM me your ingame ID I want to set you to peace

[Capo]

LETS BAN INTERNET!!!!!!!! It is used for Vile purposes. Sure most wont ever use it for bad acts but some DO!! lets get rid of it!!!!!!!

I dont agree with bannign it because it serves good purposes as well, such as charities, etc. I do however think thet there should be laws agaisnt pornography (sorry tokra). And please direct me to a thread where terrorosits are recruiting - Im not sure they would do that. IP adresses are easy to track.

Cowboys ,and Indians

Native americans, or aboriginals.

I have had a .22 rifle since i was 10 years old. Some of my best memories are going out hunting with it.

Read back - i already agreed with weapons for hunting not (self defence)

If you REALLY think mroe school shootings would happen if guns were allowed on-campus..... all i can do is say i am sorry you think so.

yes, im sure encouraging or allowing peopel to brign weapons onto school campuses would decrease the murder rate.

(no haxor on serious threads)

[Fear Of The Duck]

LETS BAN INTERNET!!!!!!!! It is used for Vile purposes. Sure most wont ever use it for bad acts but some DO!! lets get rid of it!!!!!!!

I dont agree with bannign it because it serves good purposes as well, such as charities, etc. I do however think thet there should be laws agaisnt pornography (sorry tokra). And please direct me to a thread where terrorosits are recruiting - Im not sure they would do that. IP adresses are easy to track.

Guns serve good purposes as well, like defending yourself. And one can hide IP using special software.

Cowboys ,and Indians

Native americans, or aboriginals.

Knackers and Pakistanis

Read back - i already agreed with weapons for hunting not (self defence)

Have you ever been to Ballyfermot, or the Mun?

yes, im sure encouraging or allowing peopel to brign weapons onto school campuses would decrease the murder rate.

So am I.

Shall we create "Pro Gunners Alliance" then?

[Saturnine]

Read back - i already agreed with weapons for hunting not (self defence)

elaborate here.

I lost track of time and I need to go to work.

I'll be home later though.

[Lord_Grant]

Capo Wrote

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LETS BAN INTERNET!!!!!!!! It is used for Vile purposes. Sure most wont ever use it for bad acts but some DO!! lets get rid of it!!!!!!!



I dont agree with bannign it because it serves good purposes as well, such as charities, etc. I do however think thet there should be laws agaisnt pornography (sorry tokra). And please direct me to a thread where terrorosits are recruiting - Im not sure they would do that. IP adresses are easy to track.

I was using it as a example.
You always hear of a "Terrorist website" That videos have been uploaded.
It goes both ways. Guns are the SAME.
Some use them for bad. Others for good.
As for Cowboy's and indians.... No offence. Are you some type of nitpicker? I was using the genrality of what it is known as.......
Also no offence. But whats wrong with self defence?
I would HATE to take a human life.... but if it meant a scumbags life, or Mine,My families ,or even a innocent bystander i would do it.
I would pull teh trigger ONLY in 2 circumstances.
#1 I was drafted by Uncle Same and am now in teh army.
#2. If my life ,or families,friends was in immenint Danger.....
I wouldnt even attempt to stop a armed robbery if there was a large chance of noone getting hurt without my interferance. A gun-fight then would be foolish with teh chances of teh robber panicking and firing wildly into innocents.
So. Final thought.
I have my own idea's. I think i am right.M You dont. I dont think your right. Lets let it go.

[Come_Forth]

I do however think thet there should be laws agaisnt pornography (sorry tokra).

What sort of laws?

[Fear Of The Duck]

And how? Everybody can download pornography from the net.

[Come_Forth]

And how? Everybody can download pornography from the net.

Exactly, none can stop the power of google.

[Lord_Grant]

Thought of something else i NEED to add.
Look at current gun-laws around the world.
England,Canada,and Austrailia all have tough gun-laws.
Switzerland has EXTREMELY LAX gun laws.... Do they have a high crime rate? No.
Finland also has loosER gun laws(Still getting there) ,and it has a relativly low crime rate.
Now...... Also in cities where CCW (Concealed Carry Weapons) permits were issued Anti-gunners shouted that there would be all ---- break loose due to it. The crime rate didnt increase because of it.
Now i got a question i am gonna post but its going to be in a seperate thread. not a arguement thread a mear question ,and it NEEDS its own.
I know i probably wont convert you to a pro-gunner (Am addressing all here). BUT I would feel badly if i didnt at least mention a couple of points.
And you CANNOT say i havent tried. Although i wasnt going to change my stance. I HAVE [ut my diferances aside for once ,and honestly looked at Anti-gun supposed "reports" of crime increase ,and drop in crime rates due to gun-law's ,and read some of their reasoning. I am still with a firm conviction tht my side is right.
HAVE
YOU
EVER tried to look at it from our side? More will be mentioned in my thread.
BUT. Read the following.
http://www.reuters.com/article/domestic ... edType=RSS
It is still somewhat biased against gun-owners. depicting them as gun-toting vigilantes.And mentioning that it is "Fine police work ,and crackdowns" that stopped it. (Which IS possible. But teh law helped)
What ISNT mentioned is that immediatly Anti-gun people decried the act. They said it would be a "Gunsmoke". Killings ,and crime would raise.
Has that Happened???? NO..... Mayeb you should think about some of the other stuff with bias that has been said....

[Saturnine]

And how? Everybody can download pornography from the net.

There are all kinds of wacky laws out there against "sex"

Vibrators are refered to as "foot massagers" when sold online..

They do this to play on a loophole and sell them nation wide. In states that such a Texas where it is illegal to posess "sex toys".

So there are laws along these lines.

I thought about becoming a pornography director one time, then I abandoned the idea. I realized I would need to employ a lawyer to constantly hold vigil.

Porno laws are strict enough as is. They can fill volumes and vary from state to state.

Try knowing them all sometime, its overwhelming.

My take is this:

No more restrictions. Just strengthen the penalties for posession of child pornography.

I would advocate the banning of "violent porno" (extreme masochism) as well... Think about it, its sick and psychologically twisted. People are not supposed to be aroused by someones pain.
Someone who likes inflicting pain or recieving it in the act shouldn't be fattened on the stimuli.

They could kill someone someday and eat them.
People are not supposed to be aroused by someones pain.

Other than that people should have the right to digest what they deem fit. With this freedom comes the freedom to not view those things if they bother you personally..

[Spacey]

I don't know how this got onto pron... but let's leave it at that.

If you have an idea/view, then suggest it. Be respectful of other people's views and lifestyles.

[Capo]

we're talking about guns and religion. It had to come down to sex sometime...

[REK]

didnt see this thread and dont want to read it...

My cousins girlfriend lost her brother in the shooting at VT

its a sad thing


sadder that im unaffected by these type of things

I ve known more people that have died
or have been killed in front of me than any man should have to endure..

may god protect their families...



REK
University of Miami
Football c/o 2001
The BIG EAST and ACC

we are all Hoakies now

[urban assault]

I'm sorry for your past experiences Rek, and sad for the family of the one lost at VT. My condolences.

-urban

[The Xeno]

And on that note... I think it's time this thread was locked.