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Raven wrote:I know you want me to think when i get raided just to be a better farm next time but il refuse to spent 1 uu if i dont get even chances they had.....


Actually I want everyone to start playing it and make it a good server, I don't want to raid you or turn you away from the server.



trust me there are alot of good players willing to start playing it alot better then they do now but the current situation allows CoP to easily maintain power in ascension by just raiding anyone who comes near .......

I might want to make a few suggestions soon but i know to little about how ascension works to make good and honest suggestions
That doesnt mean i dont know how ascension works at all but not the numbers andd stuff


If you want to talk to me on msn I'd be happy to tell you anything you want to know about Ascension to help you make your suggestions.

@Nigatsu - I was only talking a small increase but enough to help newer and re-ascending people because that rate is very out of date now and isn't worth what it used to be.



il buzz you sometime maybe we can think of something together


I look forward to it and when you do, don't consider me a member of CoP just consider me a normal player as I will with you.
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Raven wrote:
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BELISKNER wrote:
Raven wrote:I know you want me to think when i get raided just to be a better farm next time but il refuse to spent 1 uu if i dont get even chances they had.....


Actually I want everyone to start playing it and make it a good server, I don't want to raid you or turn you away from the server.



trust me there are alot of good players willing to start playing it alot better then they do now but the current situation allows CoP to easily maintain power in ascension by just raiding anyone who comes near .......

I might want to make a few suggestions soon but i know to little about how ascension works to make good and honest suggestions
That doesnt mean i dont know how ascension works at all but not the numbers andd stuff


Yeah tell killy he ows me 300k UUs on ascention ;)... the server must stay like it is. Those are at top worked for that. You worked for your 65mil UUs on main. What if someone asks to remove raidind on main... that would be so convenient for you, isn`t it?



i think you be happy that there is a limit for raiding dont you main cant be compared to ascension in any way and congratulations you have protection as im 100% you would talk differently as you had noneyou just have it the easy way .....


Protection? No one protects me and i`m sure that i would be safe in ascention even though i woudn`t be in COP, because my account isn`t so big and if it would be, it would have a defence for it`s size. I worked for my account and lost until now about 8mil UUs in ascentions. That`s my strength. But yeah, you have right, there should be a cap on ascention like it is in main.
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Nigatsu_Aka wrote:Protection? No one protects me and i`m sure that i would be safe in ascention even though i woudn`t be in COP, because my account isn`t so big and if it would be, it would have a defence for it`s size. I worked for my account and lost until now about 8mil UUs in ascentions. That`s my strength. But yeah, you have right, there should be a cap on ascention like it is in main.



dude you wont be attacked by CoP members thats what i call protection ..........you think you would be safe wihout being in CoP :lol: you wouldnt have 500k size left ............. 8mill UU's tsss i spent alot more then that and alot of people did ..........
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lol cheers dan for that im adversed to getting poked lol

ok form where it stands yea i guess we are in the middle

personal opinion is i like ascension server

the super weps has totaly screwed the ballance up there tho

deascension well we all knew the risks in ascending it was always said there would be great consequencies to playing that server that should remain people ascended for the benefits on main but i totally disagree withthe tactic of vac once the bonuses are allocated on main

some sort of system where normal races can purchase some better tech but still not near the benefits u get from being an ascended being as u do not have the tecnically ability to fully understand them

so im of the opinion that if u vac u get no bonuses on main

Raid is more complicated a system needs to be put in place to halt the growth and make it more even for mid range to smaller players to grow with out the fear of being raided no ideas how though

though i built my account in a total different way from most and was called a dough ball for it but then ive never been the go withthe flow typ of guy lol

all in all something needs to change but im not sure wot
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frazz wrote:lol cheers dan for that im adversed to getting poked lol

ok form where it stands yea i guess we are in the middle

personal opinion is i like ascension server

the super weps has totaly screwed the ballance up there tho

deascension well we all knew the risks in ascending it was always said there would be great consequencies to playing that server that should remain people ascended for the benefits on main but i totally disagree withthe tactic of vac once the bonuses are allocated on main

some sort of system where normal races can purchase some better tech but still not near the benefits u get from being an ascended being as u do not have the tecnically ability to fully understand them

so im of the opinion that if u vac u get no bonuses on main

Raid is more complicated a system needs to be put in place to halt the growth and make it more even for mid range to smaller players to grow with out the fear of being raided no ideas how though

though i built my account in a total different way from most and was called a dough ball for it but then ive never been the go withthe flow typ of guy lol

all in all something needs to change but im not sure wot




Indeed, Ive built my ascended count quit similar to yours Frazz, that said, the VAST majority of people have ascended for the bonus.

That, combined with guided planets (miners) being raidable, means that the server is inherintly inbalanced.

Personaly, I say that the bigger differnce between the population of your account, and the raidable ammount in the target realm, should combine to affect how much you can raid from someone.

THat, and make guided planets untouchable.
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well yea raiding miners basically helps unbalance the server to a certain extent and maybe a limit of that could be introduced

tho if u take main for example u can raid but the costs are a lot high for raiding against a def some form of being able to modify that so u cant raid against an ascended account with a def and the costs being higher to raid seemingly as the ascended accounts will have superiour beings manning defences limits the ability of those to grow at the the extreame lvls

but either way it goes against the game being able to grow ingame. raidin miners alters things but allows for big attacks to raid an account to nothing

its all a complicated process the only major problem i have with is the superwep it severely unbalances the game
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you cannot raid miners frazz...on ascension...you can


I agree with Raven_ limiting the size would be a very good idea also...
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I love this server!!!! Ascension is a great game since it is a game of skill. The ones that do well on the server play it, and sacrafice their main accounts to do so. I have a army size on main of 4-5 million. Without the help of any alliance or friends I have put in my first ascension at 30k app, second at 79k, and the third at 90k. The resources I have put into my account to grow my ascended account would make my main one quite bigger. However I love ascended, and I focus on ascended. I have a top 300 account in army size. I could put up a fight on ascended to attempt to stop myself from being descended, but I know that I would ultimately lose. I love ascended since it is a server of pure skill, and nothing else.

The people who have over 1 million planets a day, have earned that spot by sacraficing their main accounts. They deserve everything they have since they have worked their butts off for it.

To all of those who complain about being easily descended: Grow your main account, and start doing large ascensions. If you do not want to sacrafice your main account to support your ascended account, you will have to face the consequences of being descended. It is your own fault if you play the server of skill without skill.
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vinny d wrote:I love this server!!!! Ascension is a great game since it is a game of skill. The ones that do well on the server play it, and sacrafice their main accounts to do so. I have a army size on main of 4-5 million. Without the help of any alliance or friends I have put in my first ascension at 30k app, second at 79k, and the third at 90k. The resources I have put into my account to grow my ascended account would make my main one quite bigger. However I love ascended, and I focus on ascended. I have a top 300 account in army size. I could put up a fight on ascended to attempt to stop myself from being descended, but I know that I would ultimately lose. I love ascended since it is a server of pure skill, and nothing else.

The people who have over 1 million planets a day, have earned that spot by sacraficing their main accounts. They deserve everything they have since they have worked their butts off for it.

To all of those who complain about being easily descended: Grow your main account, and start doing large ascensions. If you do not want to sacrafice your main account to support your ascended account, you will have to face the consequences of being descended. It is your own fault if you play the server of skill without skill.



Me and many TL members had sizes there with many million planets its not like we didnt played it but we were an easy target as anyone would be no matter if you even had 100mill planets..........
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vinny d wrote:I love this server!!!! Ascension is a great game since it is a game of skill. The ones that do well on the server play it, and sacrafice their main accounts to do so. I have a army size on main of 4-5 million. Without the help of any alliance or friends I have put in my first ascension at 30k app, second at 79k, and the third at 90k. The resources I have put into my account to grow my ascended account would make my main one quite bigger. However I love ascended, and I focus on ascended. I have a top 300 account in army size. I could put up a fight on ascended to attempt to stop myself from being descended, but I know that I would ultimately lose. I love ascended since it is a server of pure skill, and nothing else.

The people who have over 1 million planets a day, have earned that spot by sacraficing their main accounts. They deserve everything they have since they have worked their butts off for it.

To all of those who complain about being easily descended: Grow your main account, and start doing large ascensions. If you do not want to sacrafice your main account to support your ascended account, you will have to face the consequences of being descended. It is your own fault if you play the server of skill without skill.


I wonder if you would be talking like that if you would suffer the same faith as some of us...It is good in theory mate...but was tested in praxis...your statement is not a reliable....or at least not acurate

Excuse me if I have offended you in any way...but I was rank top five in ascension...
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Everyone knows, or should know the consequences. If you messed with players bigger than you, you faced the chance of being descended.


SVaRuN, i would be pissed if it happened to me, but I understand the possibility of it occuring. I wouldn't go poking a lion at the zoo and not expect it to attack me. Ascension should not be changed. You either reep the benefits of ascending huge while no one did, or you face that fact that on a server of skill if someone exsists that has more skill, you are powerless.
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Or is it power by numbers? you become a target because you are not within a certain group, they raid, farm and sometimes extort you. The only reason they have become big because there was no competition in the 1st place, the powerful ones are allied with other powerful ones....pure skills....a huh
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vinny d wrote:Everyone knows, or should know the consequences. If you messed with players bigger than you, you faced the chance of being descended.


SVaRuN, i would be pissed if it happened to me, but I understand the possibility of it occuring. I wouldn't go poking a lion at the zoo and not expect it to attack me. Ascension should not be changed. You either reep the benefits of ascending huge while no one did, or you face that fact that on a server of skill if someone exsists that has more skill, you are powerless.



Having a group of 200 people controlling a server i hardly call that skill waiting for DMU to come and then upgrade something i hardly call skill .........Games like SGW arent based on any skill you just have to be smarter at the right time like what happened in ascension.......

One more time it doesnt matter if i had even 100mill planets then i would still be down to the 500k im now.......
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Raven wrote:
vinny d wrote:Everyone knows, or should know the consequences. If you messed with players bigger than you, you faced the chance of being descended.


SVaRuN, i would be pissed if it happened to me, but I understand the possibility of it occuring. I wouldn't go poking a lion at the zoo and not expect it to attack me. Ascension should not be changed. You either reep the benefits of ascending huge while no one did, or you face that fact that on a server of skill if someone exsists that has more skill, you are powerless.



Having a group of 200 people controlling a server i hardly call that skill waiting for DMU to come and then upgrade something i hardly call skill .........Games like SGW arent based on any skill you just have to be smarter at the right time like what happened in ascension.......

One more time it doesnt matter if i had even 100mill planets then i would still be down to the 500k im now.......



Ok, I call on everyone to start sending a lot of emails about assencion to mailto:urgent@stargatewars.com , acting like its a bug how trained planets get raided.
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I'm not involved in the CiA/CoP war in main, however it seems to me that the majority of CoP players who play ascended propose ideas that will only solidify their power base moreso than it already is (either in main/ascended) - mainly the suggestion that if people in ascention go on vacation they should lose all their bonuses in main as well - which would only increase the power that CoP holds in the main server as well.

I just wish that people weren't so completely biased when it comes to suggesting ideas for improving the ascended server.

One thing that most players (if not everyone) agrees on is the ability to raid resource planets. If this isn't changed, then a fairly active player can have his account pretty much completely destroyed and he probably wouldn't keep playing ascended - which is a good reason as to why the ascended server is so damn dead. Make it so that 10% of the resources planets that you train become 'lifer' resource planets. Lets see how that goes and we can discuss further ideas down the road.
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