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Raven wrote:Ascension top accounts are way to powerfull its making the server way unbalanced


You could say the same about main...



Do you really think that? i think everyone has a fair shot to catch up in lets say a month of 6 .......

Im not asking for a fast way to catch up but i want atleast some chance.....

Why do you all keep comparing main because its really impossible to compare both there is a way huger gap between the top 5 and the rest then there is in main + ascended accounts grow so fast its really not worth it to do a very large ascension now as they will already have gotten more APP with only income........


If you really wanna compare it with main then try this your at 1mill size and there are 5 others at 1 bill size and they can just keep buying UU all the time in other words im really curious how you ever wanna catch up to them .........
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If guided planets are made unraidable then you'll have a fair chance, it will just take a bit more than a month.
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~Phoenix~ wrote:If guided planets are made unraidable then you'll have a fair chance, it will just take a bit more than a month.

lmao even then you will never be able to catch up but at least it will be possible to reach a size of more than just a few mil before getting raided into the ground again
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~Phoenix~ wrote:If guided planets are made unraidable then you'll have a fair chance, it will just take a bit more than a month.

lmao even then you will never be able to catch up but at least it will be possible to reach a size of more than just a few mil before getting raided into the ground again


Of coarse you will be able to catch up eventually. Past a certain point fleets and stuff costs tons and tons more. Someone may be 100x your size yes, but as you grow they will be 50x the size of you, 40, 30, 20, 10.

Eventually the ration will be much smaller, until one day the difference is hardly nothing.

Aslong as there is no raiding it is mroe than possible, people just want to catch up in a few months because they are impatient, tahts how main works raid raid raid and you're there in main.
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one point about ascended that everyone seems to be overlooking is,,,,,,,,,,,,

In main miners are untouchable, therefore you can grow no matter what.


In ascended it is completely possible for both Sinister and Mojo to be reduced to nothing. to have every military planet destroyed and every resource planet taken.



It is possible.
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Lore wrote:one point about ascended that everyone seems to be overlooking is,,,,,,,,,,,,

In main miners are untouchable, therefore you can grow no matter what.


In ascended it is completely possible for both Sinister and Mojo to be reduced to nothing. to have every military planet destroyed and every resource planet taken.



It is possible.


I beg to differ Lore; no it isn't ;)

To Raven: If you wanted a chance to catch up, you shouldn't have ascended six times in one month. You young punks in this game want everything right now and, if you can't get it, you pout and grouse and stomp your feet. I and others like me gave up tons of resources in main to get to where we are now in ascension (and the reason that you young punks were able to mass Reborn and I so easily in main). Now you want us FURTHER handcuffed than we already are in ascension AND you don't want the power of ascended accounts to affect the power of the main accounts. If you had put that Naquadah that I gave you for all those UU that you sold me in main into UP, you could have had a MONSTER ascension account right now. So instead of pointing fingers at others, perhaps you ought to take a look at how you played ascension and take some of the blame for not being able to compete effectively.
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Shooting Star wrote:
Lore wrote:one point about ascended that everyone seems to be overlooking is,,,,,,,,,,,,

In main miners are untouchable, therefore you can grow no matter what.


In ascended it is completely possible for both Sinister and Mojo to be reduced to nothing. to have every military planet destroyed and every resource planet taken.



It is possible.


I beg to differ Lore; no it isn't ;)

To Raven: If you wanted a chance to catch up, you shouldn't have ascended six times in one month. You young punks in this game want everything right now and, if you can't get it, you pout and grouse and stomp your feet. I and others like me gave up tons of resources in main to get to where we are now in ascension (and the reason that you young punks were able to mass Reborn and I so easily in main). Now you want us FURTHER handcuffed than we already are in ascension AND you don't want the power of ascended accounts to affect the power of the main accounts. If you had put that Naquadah that I gave you for all those UU that you sold me in main into UP, you could have had a MONSTER ascension account right now. So instead of pointing fingers at others, perhaps you ought to take a look at how you played ascension and take some of the blame for not being able to compete effectively.




dont start that again i already PM ed you why i sold you those UU back then + i went inactive for over 6 month if you wanna blame me for RL trouble go ahead :lol:

The thing is Mojo Sinking that you dont want anything near you ever again as you belive you are the ultimate being of this universum and should be that in main too.....

I really hope admin changes some stuff in ascension it would go alot easier if you admitted that you have a easy job right now wich is 100% without skill just waiting for some resources like youve done always......



@Phoenix : I dont think you can say raid raid raid and you are there in main if that is the case why isnt everyone at 75 yet?
Im sure i can do what mojo did in a much smaller timeframe as he did nothing but wait for his Income......
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Shooting Star wrote:I beg to differ Lore; no it isn't ;)

To Raven: If you wanted a chance to catch up, you shouldn't have ascended six times in one month. You young punks in this game want everything right now and, if you can't get it, you pout and grouse and stomp your feet. I and others like me gave up tons of resources in main to get to where we are now in ascension (and the reason that you young punks were able to mass Reborn and I so easily in main). Now you want us FURTHER handcuffed than we already are in ascension AND you don't want the power of ascended accounts to affect the power of the main accounts. If you had put that Naquadah that I gave you for all those UU that you sold me in main into UP, you could have had a MONSTER ascension account right now. So instead of pointing fingers at others, perhaps you ought to take a look at how you played ascension and take some of the blame for not being able to compete effectively.

mate many people did invest (for their size) massive resources but that's still not enough.
and why?
because once you reach a certain size there is always someone who has a bigger strike than your def (no matter how high you build it) and once that someone finds you he sees the amount of planets he can raid and the losses being less than a tenth of what he steals. So even if people did massive ascencions now they will still not get anywhere by getting raided.

now if you come to me saying that we should increase our defences then you know too well that it is pointless because we'd have to increase covert and assasin too.
Eventually this leads to having something like
1 guided planet, 4 super defender planets, ~12 ghost and ~12 assasin planets. I'm not quite there yet but that's what this server is aiming at if you want to avoid getting raided.
Taking Teal'auc for an example (she is a friend of mine so don't want to make her angry but mentioning her only cos i do remember how strong she is compared to me) she is approximately my size in terms of sphere of influence but her defence, covert and assasin are over 10+ times smaller than my stats. [sarcasm]Yes i'm starting to see the amount of skill that is needed to play this server[/sarcasm]. You really need skill but no matter how much you got you WILL get raided if you are non-cop.

Other factors that gravely put lower players at a disadvantage, actually everyone but lower (non-cop) players who get raided feel this the most often, are for example that you can't partially repair your weapons.
You can't pay for the bill after you got raided, you can't bank the money and you get farmed way before you can scratch up enough..
After a few days your weapons get destroyed, yay you just lost over 15-25 days of your income, not to mention that you probably lost over 30-40% of your income with the initial raid and much more sicne people will be able to raid you much more easily and farm you too


And lore. I'd like to see how, even if the 100 strongest non-cop accounts would work together could win a battle against either mojo or sinister, last time i heard how many planets did they have, bilion or more? and what up? 10 mil per day?
yes it is certainly possible to defeat them both. but only if one would fight the other which we all know will never happen
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Raven wrote:Mojo Sinking


C'mon... if your gona rip his name get it right...

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urogard wrote:mate many people did invest (for their size) massive resources but that's still not enough.
and why?
because once you reach a certain size there is always someone who has a bigger strike than your def (no matter how high you build it) and once that someone finds you he sees the amount of planets he can raid and the losses being less than a tenth of what he steals. So even if people did massive ascencions now they will still not get anywhere by getting raided.

now if you come to me saying that we should increase our defences then you know too well that it is pointless because we'd have to increase covert and assasin too.
Eventually this leads to having something like
1 guided planet, 4 super defender planets, ~12 ghost and ~12 assasin planets. I'm not quite there yet but that's what this server is aiming at if you want to avoid getting raided.
Taking Teal'auc for an example (she is a friend of mine so don't want to make her angry but mentioning her only cos i do remember how strong she is compared to me) she is approximately my size in terms of sphere of influence but her defence, covert and assasin are over 10+ times smaller than my stats. [sarcasm]Yes i'm starting to see the amount of skill that is needed to play this server[/sarcasm]. You really need skill but no matter how much you got you WILL get raided if you are non-cop.

Other factors that gravely put lower players at a disadvantage, actually everyone but lower (non-cop) players who get raided feel this the most often, are for example that you can't partially repair your weapons.
You can't pay for the bill after you got raided, you can't bank the money and you get farmed way before you can scratch up enough..
After a few days your weapons get destroyed, yay you just lost over 15-25 days of your income, not to mention that you probably lost over 30-40% of your income with the initial raid and much more sicne people will be able to raid you much more easily and farm you too


And lore. I'd like to see how, even if the 100 strongest non-cop accounts would work together could win a battle against either mojo or sinister, last time i heard how many planets did they have, bilion or more? and what up? 10 mil per day?
yes it is certainly possible to defeat them both. but only if one would fight the other which we all know will never happen


You get raided because not enough people outside the CoP played ascension because they just wanted the bonuses. Therefore, those who did were raided to the ground because of lack of raid targets. And who says that Mojo Rising can't be taken down? I could build a strike to damage his defense easily. I may be big, but it's not impossible for someone else to do it as well. You'd have to spend resources on it, but it's possible.
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Hensenshi wrote:You get raided because not enough people outside the CoP played ascension because they just wanted the bonuses. Therefore, those who did were raided to the ground because of lack of raid targets. And who says that Mojo Rising can't be taken down? I could build a strike to damage his defense easily. I may be big, but it's not impossible for someone else to do it as well. You'd have to spend resources on it, but it's possible.


gathering up those stats whilst still getting raided to the ground no matter what we do :? :?

yes this makes perfect sense
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I wasnt taking a stabb at anyone with that remark. I also don't know Sinister or Mojo's true power, but I do think just like Hensenshi. They both can be beaten. YES it would take an extreme amount of resources. YES it would take an extreme amount of planning. AND YES at the end of the day it will most likely be the end of the account of the attacker, BUT I still think with the right conditions and the right players working together it can happen. Just my opinion tho.

I wouldn't try it :wink:
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