Evil Capitalists and Commies

[Fear Of The Duck]

funny thing is that we don't work on workers day in Germany It's a bank holiday

do you know who made this day a holiday in Germany?

let me guess: fuhrer adolf? he was a socialist.

[vinny d]

Nazis and communists fought constantly.....lol. They would get drunk and fight in the streets. Plus hitler killed communists as well as Gypsys, Mentally disabled, Christians, Jews.....and so on and so forth.

[Mato]

funny thing is that we don't work on workers day in Germany It's a bank holiday

do you know who made this day a holiday in Germany?

let me guess: fuhrer adolf? he was a socialist.

It was the Nazis. They named it "day of work". but they did not permit socialist demonstrations on this day.

Hitler was not a socialist. The one who swiched sides was Benito Musolini.

[Fear Of The Duck]

you're right here. but the basic ideology was the same: turn ppl into kinda slaves. the difference is commies were international, nazi national (nazi=national socialist). both were bandits and murderers.

[urogard]

let me guess: fuhrer adolf? he was a socialist.

with only one sentence you've proven you know nothing of adolf hitler.
amazing


and the basic ideology wasn't the same.
WTH, do you even know what communism is about? and there you go saying "turn ppl into kinda slaves"
you're mixing it up with the similarities between facism and capitalism both of which do indeed turn ppl into kinda slaves.
if the socialists hadn't ruled america in the first decade of the 20th century you'd still be working 80+ hours per week.

read up on some info (i.e. wikipedia is easily accessible for you and gives you the basic hints) before you go spouting such western elementary school propaganda

oh and don't come to me saying that either the USSR was communist, or stalin were communists or any similar non-sense.
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and no country in the world was ever communist.
nor was Stalin communist, he might have called himself that but he wasn't one.

[Cole]

funny thing is that we don't work on workers day in Germany It's a bank holiday

do you know who made this day a holiday in Germany?

let me guess: fuhrer adolf? he was a socialist.

That has to be worse thing I EVER read on these forums!!!

With your comment about how you happy "commies" didn't bring this day in eire I shouldn't be surprised...
Showing no respect to communists is really wrong, they are the ones who fought the most hardly nazism nomatter if they knew they would die or not. Show some respect for resistance and those who fight the *modded big words myself* nazis.

[Fear Of The Duck]

now i know what your guys problem is: you just have no idea what socialism/communism really is. i know it's not your fault, cos over the years them (****) managed to brainwash slowly lots of ppl.
in short:
communism - a country where something is common (i.e belongs to everybody, like centralized public health system, or public education) is communist (ireland is communist)
socialism - a country where state social benefits exist (unemployment benefit) is socialist (ireland is socialist)
capitalism - a country where individuals are permitted to freely accumulate capital with system that enables this is capitalist (ireland is capitalist)
free society - where everybody is responsible for his/hers life, no government in economy, government only setting and enforcing rules of interactions between citizens. can't coexist with communism and socialism.

i won't be explaining the differences in more details here, cos this isn't the place for that.

just one thing.
aphophis: learn history a bit, will ya. soviets started war with third reich because hitler'd attacked ussr. before that they happily cooperated in invading for example poland (pact ribbentrop-molotov). and if two thugs are fighting on the street and one wins, are you gonna say he's a good man cos he kicked a crap out of other thug?

[agapooka]

Eww, capitalism, the religion where money is god. (capital = money and ism is... what's yo religionism, fo shizzle)

Anyways, let's not go on about Hitler, shall we? Ya bunch of Hitler addicts (I remember the days when half the threads ended up becomming arguments about Hitler <.<)

Thanks you laddies and gentlewomen.

J

[Aegidius]

I have seen so much wrong information and "uncle sam" kind of thinking that I can't even replay to such low comments.
So, this is my reply (in its english/Irish version):

Arise, ye workers from your slumber,
Arise, ye prisoners of want.
For reason in revolt now thunders,
and at last ends the age of cant!
Away with all your superstitions,
Servile masses, arise, arise!
We'll change henceforth the old tradition,
And spurn the dust to win the prize!
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.

No more deluded by reaction,
On tyrants only we'll make war!
The soldiers too will take strike action,
They'll break ranks and fight no more!
And if those cannibals keep trying,
To sacrifice us to their pride,
They soon shall hear the bullets flying,
We'll shoot the generals on our own side.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.

No saviour from on high delivers,
No faith have we in prince or peer.
Our own right hand the chains must shiver,
Chains of hatred, greed and fear.
E'er the thieves will out with their booty,
And to all give a happier lot.
Each at his forge must do their duty,
And we'll strike the iron while it's hot.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally,
And the last fight let us face.
The Internationale,
Unites the human race.

[Aegidius]

ok only to this one:

the basic ideology was the same: turn ppl into kinda slaves. the difference is commies were international, nazi national (nazi=national socialist)

and capitalists are global and intergalactic if they could. The three of them are

bandits and murderers.

[Labraid]

So is this holiday just May Day under a different name?

[Aegidius]

and this:

free society - where everybody is responsible for his/hers life, no government in economy, government only setting and enforcing rules of interactions between citizens. can't coexist with communism and socialism.

OMG. do you call that a free society? There are only a few ULTRA conservatives and ULTRA right side economist in the world that will tell u the "free" market make society free and fair.
I have news for u: neoliberalism turned Africa, Central and South America, and most of Asia in the land of very poors and very rich. I bet u don't live down here, do u? U have your way of life because your "evolved nations" suck our resources, use our ppl like cheap workers and pay us misery. Do u know how much gold spain took from south america? Who slaved the Afrincans and American ppl? do u know how much they pay to the guy that worked in the components of your computer? how much metal does big companies take from africa, who pay for the weapons they use to kill them selfs?

Now ask yourself: who is the brainwashed?

[Aegidius]

So is this holiday just May Day under a different name?

Remembering the Haymarket martyrs of 1886 ? Yes

[agapooka]

'ight.

Well, if it's gonna be a political debate...

[Osi]

communism - a country where something is common (i.e belongs to everybody, like centralized public health system, or public education) is communist (ireland is communist)
socialism - a country where state social benefits exist (unemployment benefit) is socialist (ireland is socialist)
capitalism - a country where individuals are permitted to freely accumulate capital with system that enables this is capitalist (ireland is capitalist)

where did you get your defintions cause they are so sooo sooooooo wrong.

Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production. It can be considered a branch of the broader socialist movement. (there has never been a true communist government)

Capitalism generally refers to an economic system in which the means of production are mostly privately



American must be socialist to then because we have social security? Right? Your examples are also horrid.