Leaders of CIA

[Bazsy]

=/= this post is completely out of character =\=

-If you feel you have to take the war and your grudge to every topic you see, then Im feeling sad for you, and you should leave this game cause its indeed ruining your RL personality...

Hmm... are you saying that forum characters are someone's RL personality?!
In that case, I beg to differ. Then again, maybe the fact that these are game forums do not mean that we stick to our respective roles in here... me, as the hardline CIA extremist, and you as my friendly and respecting opponent (these qualifications are serious, btw, since you *are* friendly and respecting)? When we'd talk on MSN, then yes, maybe I'll drop my role.

I've had to drop it for this post, but I thought the issue warranted my personal opinion and not my persona's (role-bound) opinion that CoP is to blame for a lot.

Tell me if Im hard to understand.

I said keep it out of topics it not belong to... your mates taking every chance to spead propaganda into topics which have nothing to do with the war. That indeed ruining the community. And if you dont realize, that not the forum but the RL character doing these things, I feel sad for you too...


And tell me why do you have to flame? Show me where it helped you:P right, nowhere

Oh And btw, who are you? been here for 2 yrs, but never heard about you before you came here and wanted to correct me;)

[Vendetta]

This thread is to celebrate you becoming just like CoP in your own views..

Congratulations!!!!

1. Massing somone becuase they are helping your enemy
2. Massing somone becuase they are ensuring your enemy becomes more powerful then you
3. Boasting on the forums about how your winning a war when if you noticed your actually not.
4. Spying on other peoples forums
5. Threathening/coaxing neutral alliance members into joining the war.

Congratulations and rejoice everyone in the new NEW GA.. Robe has finally gotten what she wanted.. To be a leader in a major super alliance..

I finally have lost ALL respect for any CIA member.. I don't care what your relation is with me anymore, but the longer your acting like what you say you hate the more respect I will lose for you..

Good day

Jamie

And thank you for taking our old seat and complaining

[J.S.]

Right I have read every single post here. And this is my response..

Tweety is a great friend of mine and I don't like seeing her getting caught up in this pointless war, when she helped BOTH sides out.. And thats what has started this..

CIA has destroyed existing friendships just so ye lot can band together stick together just so ye can "overthrow CoP".. Even if you forced CoP to disband, one or two large members of any CoP alliance, or even any alliance is enough to cripple any alliance in this game.. Heck I can mass anyone upto a 1.5 trillion defence, with enough naq and turns... And I'm only a 16 millioner..

I am most pissed at the EPA, (bamse I'm an ex EPA member not TSA) not sticking to their friendships, in fact out of everyone in this Coalition EPAc are only really allies with one alliance.. And not standing up for tweety is one of the worst things I have ever seen from them especially given the nature of their past relationships..

Don't get me wrong on anything here this is NOT an anti CIA thread from me.. This is a don't become worse then CoP which ye are doing thread..

For all those who think I was paid or brainwashed into posting this, no one coaxed me into posting here.. I posted after I spoke to tanya (tweety) and massing her for that reason just really pissed me off.. Tanya loves war.. She is a glutton for punishment.. She doesn't cry or complain about it she just takes her beating and moves on..

As for this we are winning, well all your really doing is preventing CoP from selling resources..... to well..... you lot.. Remember where all these resource cows are.. Omega and DD most of their members are over 50 million army sizes, the average CIA member is roughly one tenth that... Heck hensenshi has nearly 5 trillion in his bank.. Thats enough to repair every single member of EPA's defences to pre war stats, and still have some left over for massing them back down again... I would say that 90% of the larger members of CoP who have become "inactive" would have the same, I don't speak to them but I would imagine that is the case.. Most CIA members can't say the same..

When I see posts like everyone in CIA is enjoying this.. Look at the price it has cost you.. Yes I agree that CoP had to be stopped as all of you know my super alliance stance.. I really REALLY dislike super alliances.. I think they are not needed.. And when everyone jumped on board after the legion did the first attack, I just thought that was not an honourable thing to do... That is why I left EPAc.. Becuase the EPA I joined would have condemned such acts.. And I am still hoping that they will do so.. There is no honour is beating a man when he is down.. Oh there is glory.. But no honour....

All I am saying is that at the end of this conflict, I really hope that everything you all have done is worth it!! For me its worse condemning someone's tactics and then turning around and using their tactics when it benefits yourself.. That is called a hypocrit and like it or not you are a hypocrit if that is what you do.. So when people say to me no its not wrong when we do it, I don't want to hear it, you will NEVER justify using it to me..

The start of this war was similar and symbolic to the Spartans and the Persians, mainly becuase the movie 300, came out about a week after this started.. IF you know your history you will know that Sparta was the dominent power in Ancient Greece, crushing anyone who got in their war.. They where a warrior people not a peaceful people.. If ONE CIA member alliance went up against CoP, they would be the Spartans.. However when you have "the server" going up against CoP that makes CoP the Spartans.. They are still powerful but they are outnumbered..

What happens if CIA win? And CoP is no more? Do ye demand the total disbandment of the individual alliances as well? Of course we all should have learnt from history what happened there!!

But look I am just one man, with one voice.. And yes CIA members have slated me for posting this thread but thats becuase ye know I am right.

My main points are you are becoming like you claim CoP to be.. Becoming what you want to destroy.. What you hate.. When that happens that really defeats the purpose of what you set out and wanted to do at the start..

I just hope in the end it is worth it to you...

[J.S.]

This thread is to celebrate you becoming just like CoP in your own views..

Congratulations!!!!

1. Massing somone becuase they are helping your enemy
2. Massing somone becuase they are ensuring your enemy becomes more powerful then you
3. Boasting on the forums about how your winning a war when if you noticed your actually not.
4. Spying on other peoples forums
5. Threathening/coaxing neutral alliance members into joining the war.

Congratulations and rejoice everyone in the new NEW GA.. Robe has finally gotten what she wanted.. To be a leader in a major super alliance..

I finally have lost ALL respect for any CIA member.. I don't care what your relation is with me anymore, but the longer your acting like what you say you hate the more respect I will lose for you..

Good day

Jamie

And thank you for taking our old seat and complaining

And thank you for spaming

[Neimenljivi]

Sorry had to go away with RL issues there.. Having a girlfriend and stuff

Anyway, coming back to this thread again... Lets clear some accusations up here shall we

1. I am still a neutral player and to be honest with you all I was leaning towards CIA at the start but when i see them lowering thier tactics to be no better then what they claim CoP is that makes them no better then what they claim to be fighting..

2. Yes some members of CoP acted out.. Tok'ra for example hitting neutral officers of CIA members.. he was told to stop.. CIA members saw this and did it.. no one told them to stop

3. CoP have shown more restraint in such instances, such as tweety.. By some peoples defination, (including my own) the hive and warlords of briton where ex EPAc alliances.. if I where in CoP I would have also gone to war with them for "funding" EPAc players.. Even tho they weren't from CoP's POV they where..

4. Yes I forgot the legion, sorry its just hard to keep up with all you guys.. Yeah the legion started it by farming CoP or vice versa fact is if the legion didn't exist this war wouldn't currently be on.. Remember it was AFTER the legion went through CoP that the rest of the cowards jumped on board.. Talk about hitting someone when they are down.. To me anyone who hit CoP after the initial legion strike is just as bad as beating a guy in a wheelchair... That's why I didn't join becuase I am not a coward just hitting them when they are already down.. Whats the point in that?

5. The very existance of CIA and the justification of allowing one of the members of CIA to use DIRTY tactics, makes them just as bad if not worse then those who they are fighting.. This is why I am glad I am not part of any CIA alliance becuase when you turn your back on your morals and principles that is a sad day...

The EPA I was once in would have NEVER stood for this crap.. They should have stood on the side of tweety as I thought FAHQ and tweety where friends with EPAc.. I guess I was wrong and I guess that EPAc don't stick to the principles Wolf359 once laid down for them.. That is pissing on his honour.. Turning your back on your friends just becuase its convienant for you.. That is the most disgraceful thing I have ever seen by EPA in my time on SGW.. The EPA I was once in stood for honour and protecting those who are weaker then you. Nowadays its power hungry only caring about destroying CoP..

Like it or not CoP are the GA minus the EPA and AB.. Now both those sides are fighting alongside the new Crystal Force and faction.. And no matter what anyone says that is the honest truth.. Nothing can change that..

6. The very existance of CIA proves that ye will not break up.. In fact the majority of you will stick together for "protection" when/if this ends.. If one member of CoP masses an alliance, is that CoP or his sole alliance... Garunteed most of CIA members would say its CoP.. CIA exists because of CoP.. why do you need it? Why do you need to call yourselves a superpower? If your all individual alliances like you claim to be why is there only one thread about this war.. Why not have a single one for each alliance? There isn't becuase ye are all the same.. So if the legion masses tweety, all of CIA are at war with tweety.. That is my defination.. And do the CIA members farm other CIA members??? I bet they don't.. Cos if ye where individual alliances ye would be farming and raiding yourselves as well as CoP.. So don't give me crap about CIA is gonna break up after the war, untill I see ye farming and attacking eachother then don't give me that "where only together to take down CoP"..



I am very quickly losing respect for most CIA alliances.. People I have held in the greatest of respect are becoming no better then those people who beat people in wheelchairs up..

It is truely a sad day

1) Do you think that we'll let them mass our officers, NEUTRAL officers, and give them candies for it? Also what about HE targeting all neutral people who have NO connection to war at all (meaning they don't have commanders in CIA, they are not traning alliances of CIA,...)? That's nice, right?

2) Was Tok'ra the only one targeting officers? Oh please...and did all stop? haha u got2be kidding me.

3) Won't even commet to that, but for god's sake, tweety ADMIT she was funding CoP, even tho she was funding CIA aswell, she should stay neutral in this war, meaning no funding. I'd not like even if she'd found only CIA.

4) You saying I AM COWARD? AND MY ALLIANCE? We lost ALL our stats, not just once. We did not fear being descended. Did TL do all the job on ascension? Did they descend all? U realy love to say jokes a lot...WE descended MANY CoP members WITH NO fear of being descended ourselfs, or massed, or whatever. Sure you'll say "why are u dormant then", Omega and DD tried to descend me, they had more than a day, and guess what, they failed. I "ran" on vacation because I knew they would, eventualy, descend me and it's hard to resist attacks from first page, PERSONAL attacks from first page. While you said you were neutral when EPAc joined in, when CoP started targeting traning alliances, guess what, YOU LEFT EPAc not to be massed (if we'd have another alliance in SU and you'd led it and leave SU in a middle of war, you would be called deserter and you would be massed). Now don't say any **Filtered** stories as they won't work here, sorry.

5) I am glad u're not in CIA aswell. We're allowing our guys to use dirty tactics? Who started targeting traning alliances, who started targeting officers, who is threatning he'll start massing all neutral players if they don't come up with solution? Yeah, WE're bad...

6) Whatever...CoP wanted a name to be in war thread, not like naming alliances: TL, TF, ST, SU, EPAC, KGB, Omega's Doom,... VS CoP...
About no farming, yet again u have no proofs.
Attacks on You (last 5 days)
Time Enemy Result Attacks Enemy Losses Your Losses Damage by You Damage to You Report
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 986,790,432 Naquadah stolen 15 519 55 534,576,776 768,572,524 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 305 58 413,912,809 1,348,558,229 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,168,535,679 Naquadah stolen 15 240 59 381,360,394 1,606,006,957 details
Apr 30, 2007 Nobby 1,015,643,160 Naquadah stolen 15 64 60 478,563,825 18,031,262,948 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 279 62 448,003,398 1,730,155,686 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 374 63 595,141,810 1,753,830,457 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 482 64 609,596,795 1,431,672,561 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,075,288 Naquadah stolen 15 560 66 636,994,955 1,315,593,470 details

Sure you'll say I lie but whatever, I don't care anymore... I once respected you Jamie, but not anymore!

n

[J.S.]

1) Do you think that we'll let them mass our officers, NEUTRAL officers, and give them candies for it? Also what about HE targeting all neutral people who have NO connection to war at all (meaning they don't have commanders in CIA, they are not traning alliances of CIA,...)? That's nice, right?

2) Was Tok'ra the only one targeting officers? Oh please...and did all stop? haha u got2be kidding me.

3) Won't even commet to that, but for god's sake, tweety ADMIT she was funding CoP, even tho she was funding CIA aswell, she should stay neutral in this war, meaning no funding. I'd not like even if she'd found only CIA.

4) You saying I AM COWARD? AND MY ALLIANCE? We lost ALL our stats, not just once. We did not fear being descended. Did TL do all the job on ascension? Did they descend all? U realy love to say jokes a lot...WE descended MANY CoP members WITH NO fear of being descended ourselfs, or massed, or whatever. Sure you'll say "why are u dormant then", Omega and DD tried to descend me, they had more than a day, and guess what, they failed. I "ran" on vacation because I knew they would, eventualy, descend me and it's hard to resist attacks from first page, PERSONAL attacks from first page. While you said you were neutral when EPAc joined in, when CoP started targeting traning alliances, guess what, YOU LEFT EPAc not to be massed (if we'd have another alliance in SU and you'd led it and leave SU in a middle of war, you would be called deserter and you would be massed). Now don't say any <modded> stories as they won't work here, sorry.

5) I am glad u're not in CIA aswell. We're allowing our guys to use dirty tactics? Who started targeting traning alliances, who started targeting officers, who is threatning he'll start massing all neutral players if they don't come up with solution? Yeah, WE're bad...

6) Whatever...CoP wanted a name to be in war thread, not like naming alliances: TL, TF, ST, SU, EPAC, KGB, Omega's Doom,... VS CoP...
About no farming, yet again u have no proofs.
Attacks on You (last 5 days)
Time Enemy Result Attacks Enemy Losses Your Losses Damage by You Damage to You Report
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 986,790,432 Naquadah stolen 15 519 55 534,576,776 768,572,524 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 305 58 413,912,809 1,348,558,229 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,168,535,679 Naquadah stolen 15 240 59 381,360,394 1,606,006,957 details
Apr 30, 2007 Nobby 1,015,643,160 Naquadah stolen 15 64 60 478,563,825 18,031,262,948 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 279 62 448,003,398 1,730,155,686 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 374 63 595,141,810 1,753,830,457 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 482 64 609,596,795 1,431,672,561 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,075,288 Naquadah stolen 15 560 66 636,994,955 1,315,593,470 details

Sure you'll say I lie but whatever, I don't care anymore... I once respected you Jamie, but not anymore!

n

Well, my officers have been massed too and I asked CoP members to stop and they did.. In fact even my officers asked them to stop.. My Officers ALSO asked CIA members to stop and they have not stopped farming them..

No Tok'ra wasn't the only one I only used him as my guinea pig

Yes she was funding BOTH sides and she did admit it.. CoP didn't have a problem with her funding CIA members, but then a CIA member (can't say all of ye because your not ONE unit even tho ye carry the same flag ) didn't like it becuase maybe she wasn't funding them properly


Yes indeed you are a coward, as you joined in a battle after the initial attack.. EVERYONE in CIA bar the legion joined in AFTER the initial attack.. The legion are the only ones who still have that shred of respect... Beating someone who is down has no honour.. If your mates kicked the crap out of someone who was hurting you, would you go in when that guy is lying bleeding on the road and finish him off?

As for going vac mode on ascended, if you weren't afraid to lose your stats you wouldn't go on vac mode..

I left EPAc becuase I asked EPAc NOT to go to war with CoP not because I was afraid to be massed.. Heck I get massed at least once a month.. Its not a big deal.. I never have a really large defence that I can't rebuild in one turn to start off with.. I left becuase when I said that it was a bad idea and there would be no honour in doing so I got kicked from the EPAc senate/banned becuase I was "working for omega".. The alliance I did most for a year turned around and treated me like CRAP.. Then to make it worse disrespecting my wishes and calling me a traitor becuase I didn't want to join in on something which I thought wrong.. I stuck to my principles and still stick to them...

Targeting training alliances has been a CoP tactic since before CoP existed.. That is NOTHING new.. You ALL knew that when you go to war with CoP you know their tactics.. Telling me that they used them first is nothing new.. We all know that is what CoP do.. So don't complain to me about that..

And I really don't get your 6th point.. The stats I mean..

Look mate if you don't respect me for what I am saying, I don't have the slightest problem with that, however if you don't respect me for standing up for what I believe in then we do have a problem!

Jamie

[Brdavs]

J.S. how about coming up with an idea of a compromise instead of just pointing fingers and venting your frustrations? An Idea that`s a bit more ellaborate and has more than pointing fingers and saying how sensless it all is so we may as well go back to where it was? If you don`t agree with braking a few eggs to make an omlette thats fine. But plz don`t go playng the blame game on CIA, (especially not for what has been going on the forums) when all you`ve contributed is this blame game/whineage thread...

And the whole cowards argument is simply stupid and insulting. Kicking cop while they were down? Cowards for "grouping them" so to speak? For hittin vac even? You gotta be kidding me... Reallity check on isle 5 plz... There is a differenc between cowardice and common sense where I was born...

You want respect for standing up for what you believe in? What exactly did you stand up for? Not for the no super alliances part it would seem. You didn`t go to war cos of XY etc.. I`ll respect that; once you start giving CIA alliances some respect for moving beyond big rhetorics standing up for what *they* believe in, even if you don`t agree with them. You expect ppl to treat you with repect for standing up for yourself whilst you call others doing the same cowards, oportunists and hypocrites (just cos they are working together so that they would have any realistic chance of success)? I don`t think so pal...

[Neimenljivi]

1) Do you think that we'll let them mass our officers, NEUTRAL officers, and give them candies for it? Also what about HE targeting all neutral people who have NO connection to war at all (meaning they don't have commanders in CIA, they are not traning alliances of CIA,...)? That's nice, right?

2) Was Tok'ra the only one targeting officers? Oh please...and did all stop? haha u got2be kidding me.

3) Won't even commet to that, but for god's sake, tweety ADMIT she was funding CoP, even tho she was funding CIA aswell, she should stay neutral in this war, meaning no funding. I'd not like even if she'd found only CIA.

4) You saying I AM COWARD? AND MY ALLIANCE? We lost ALL our stats, not just once. We did not fear being descended. Did TL do all the job on ascension? Did they descend all? U realy love to say jokes a lot...WE descended MANY CoP members WITH NO fear of being descended ourselfs, or massed, or whatever. Sure you'll say "why are u dormant then", Omega and DD tried to descend me, they had more than a day, and guess what, they failed. I "ran" on vacation because I knew they would, eventualy, descend me and it's hard to resist attacks from first page, PERSONAL attacks from first page. While you said you were neutral when EPAc joined in, when CoP started targeting traning alliances, guess what, YOU LEFT EPAc not to be massed (if we'd have another alliance in SU and you'd led it and leave SU in a middle of war, you would be called deserter and you would be massed). Now don't say any <modded> stories as they won't work here, sorry.

5) I am glad u're not in CIA aswell. We're allowing our guys to use dirty tactics? Who started targeting traning alliances, who started targeting officers, who is threatning he'll start massing all neutral players if they don't come up with solution? Yeah, WE're bad...

6) Whatever...CoP wanted a name to be in war thread, not like naming alliances: TL, TF, ST, SU, EPAC, KGB, Omega's Doom,... VS CoP...
About no farming, yet again u have no proofs.
Attacks on You (last 5 days)
Time Enemy Result Attacks Enemy Losses Your Losses Damage by You Damage to You Report
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 986,790,432 Naquadah stolen 15 519 55 534,576,776 768,572,524 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 305 58 413,912,809 1,348,558,229 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,168,535,679 Naquadah stolen 15 240 59 381,360,394 1,606,006,957 details
Apr 30, 2007 Nobby 1,015,643,160 Naquadah stolen 15 64 60 478,563,825 18,031,262,948 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 279 62 448,003,398 1,730,155,686 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 374 63 595,141,810 1,753,830,457 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,089,420 Naquadah stolen 15 482 64 609,596,795 1,431,672,561 details
Apr 30, 2007 V1per 1,092,075,288 Naquadah stolen 15 560 66 636,994,955 1,315,593,470 details

Sure you'll say I lie but whatever, I don't care anymore... I once respected you Jamie, but not anymore!

n

Well, my officers have been massed too and I asked CoP members to stop and they did.. In fact even my officers asked them to stop.. My Officers ALSO asked CIA members to stop and they have not stopped farming them..

No Tok'ra wasn't the only one I only used him as my guinea pig

Yes she was funding BOTH sides and she did admit it.. CoP didn't have a problem with her funding CIA members, but then a CIA member (can't say all of ye because your not ONE unit even tho ye carry the same flag ) didn't like it becuase maybe she wasn't funding them properly


Yes indeed you are a coward, as you joined in a battle after the initial attack.. EVERYONE in CIA bar the legion joined in AFTER the initial attack.. The legion are the only ones who still have that shred of respect... Beating someone who is down has no honour.. If your mates kicked the crap out of someone who was hurting you, would you go in when that guy is lying bleeding on the road and finish him off?

As for going vac mode on ascended, if you weren't afraid to lose your stats you wouldn't go on vac mode..

I left EPAc becuase I asked EPAc NOT to go to war with CoP not because I was afraid to be massed.. Heck I get massed at least once a month.. Its not a big deal.. I never have a really large defence that I can't rebuild in one turn to start off with.. I left becuase when I said that it was a bad idea and there would be no honour in doing so I got kicked from the EPAc senate/banned becuase I was "working for omega".. The alliance I did most for a year turned around and treated me like CRAP.. Then to make it worse disrespecting my wishes and calling me a traitor becuase I didn't want to join in on something which I thought wrong.. I stuck to my principles and still stick to them...

Targeting training alliances has been a CoP tactic since before CoP existed.. That is NOTHING new.. You ALL knew that when you go to war with CoP you know their tactics.. Telling me that they used them first is nothing new.. We all know that is what CoP do.. So don't complain to me about that..

And I really don't get your 6th point.. The stats I mean..

Look mate if you don't respect me for what I am saying, I don't have the slightest problem with that, however if you don't respect me for standing up for what I believe in then we do have a problem!

Jamie

How many times I've asked CoP member to stop farming me, I've said "Could u please stop farming me", not "stop farming me a**hole" and guess what their respond was "no you n00b". Same goes for time when I asked for my officers if they could stop farming them (when I still had officers), response was the same. There are rare few ppl who stop when asked in CoP, maybe u got lucky and those ppl were farming ur officers. As for CIA, I always stop when I get asked, IF I get asked nicely. And I belive I am not the only one.

Glad u admit that Tok'ra wasn't the only one.

Are you sure CoP knew before Tanya admit it on forums? And she was already massed at that time so CoPs wouldn't seek for another enemy, more likely another ally.

You realy think we didn't mass noone? I know I am not able to mass 2 tril defs, but I massed a few 100 bil defs, always when I found them, didn't wait, just massed. There are more here in CIA who cannot mass 2 tril defs but mass those that are good enough to be massed and those that they can. We're not cowards. Also I do know of a few examples when someone from CoP couldn't farm someone anymore so s/he called someone with bigger strike in CoP to mass the one who was defending attacks so s/he could farm target again, THIS is no honour for me. I was funding TL from the begining of the war, I've putted a vote on our alliance forums the minute war began about going to war with CoP, is this a cowardly act? Sure I know that none of this would happen if there wouldn't be TL and they know it aswell. They still fight beside us, support us, even tho they know we didn't take out the biggest defences and they did it...Also what about few TF members who helped massing Reborn's def down, two times or so?

I've provided a lot of info's about CoP members who were hiding with diffrent names on ascension, I've descended 3 ppl or so, I got info and hitted few CoP members which were descended later by other friends I have asked due to not have enough turns. I didn't fear being descended, but why not prevent it if you can? Only stupid ones would leave their accounts to be descended.

And u liked it more before, when you couldn't attack CoP member or you would be massed? Is it wrong to resist against bullying?

Acctualy I thought they have a little more honour and they wouldn't mass traning alliances but I guess I was dreaming...

6th point, u said that if we're individual alliances why don't we farm ourselfs and I showed u attacks on me made by CIA member...and belive me or not, they are true and we also will disband after the war.

I don't respect you cause you left yourself to belive everything CoP saying and for creating threads in which u know most of it is BS and most of thread will be flaming. I also don't respect those who don't respect me. I respect that you stand for what u belive in, but that respect is insignificant if we look for things I don't respect you anymore.

n

[Memento]

lol jamie man u have said everything that i have been thinking

tweety massed me in the TO v FAHQ war and i got to know her after that and she is a women who helps out friends not stays out cos she could get hurt she helps and that is admirable its just a shock that CIA would mass her for funding CoP wen she was funding CIA too abit stupid and arsy cos she is helping out her friends who have helped her out in the past not the regime in particular....grow up guys jamie is rite u guys have tried so hard to fight the dark of CoP that the dark has found u (abit of spiderman there )

ok now wat i see from The Order's point of view, we are being constantly farmed by members of the CIA even after asking them to stop they still carry on knowing full well we cant hit back cos that would drag us in the war, its sad TO are a diplomatic allaince and have been since i joined yet diplomacy doesnt seem to work with u guys.

now this is something we didnt see happening CoP havent touched us (except a few raids in ascension) cos we arent in the war and respect our decision to stay neutral....now if someone would have said that would have happened b4 the war i would have laughed at them but now thats its happening i have to agree with jamie its abit hypocritical of CIA cos they are taking CoP's place

i feel that CIA are playing the same game with TO like they did with Omega to startthe war farming coaxing them into fighting, wat the hell is up with u guys this sint wat i know someone of the allainces in CIA are about i.e. AB and EPAc why do u guys agree with this

and i know that i will get the same replies as jamie has but i dont care this is how i feel and i command jamie to bring this topic to discussion

[Raven]

lol jamie man u have said everything that i have been thinking

tweety massed me in the TO v FAHQ war and i got to know her after that and she is a women who helps out friends not stays out cos she could get hurt she helps and that is admirable its just a shock that CIA would mass her for funding CoP wen she was funding CIA too abit stupid and arsy cos she is helping out her friends who have helped her out in the past not the regime in particular....grow up guys jamie is rite u guys have tried so hard to fight the dark of CoP that the dark has found u (abit of spiderman there )

ok now wat i see from The Order's point of view, we are being constantly farmed by members of the CIA even after asking them to stop they still carry on knowing full well we cant hit back cos that would drag us in the war, its sad TO are a diplomatic allaince and have been since i joined yet diplomacy doesnt seem to work with u guys.

now this is something we didnt see happening CoP havent touched us (except a few raids in ascension) cos we arent in the war and respect our decision to stay neutral....now if someone would have said that would have happened b4 the war i would have laughed at them but now thats its happening i have to agree with jamie its abit hypocritical of CIA cos they are taking CoP's place

i feel that CIA are playing the same game with TO like they did with Omega to startthe war farming coaxing them into fighting, wat the hell is up with u guys this sint wat i know someone of the allainces in CIA are about i.e. AB and EPAc why do u guys agree with this

and i know that i will get the same replies as jamie has but i dont care this is how i feel and i command jamie to bring this topic to discussion

So wait ..... your mad about the farming?
Everyone in this game gets farmed atm atleast you guys can build a high def to stop it.....
if you guys are sitting there with a 100bill def or maybe some more dont whine if your being farmed.......
That has nothing to do with CoP it happens everywhere......


Things are getting measured way bigger then they actually are but ah well people need something to gossip about....

[Memento]

lol jamie man u have said everything that i have been thinking

tweety massed me in the TO v FAHQ war and i got to know her after that and she is a women who helps out friends not stays out cos she could get hurt she helps and that is admirable its just a shock that CIA would mass her for funding CoP wen she was funding CIA too abit stupid and arsy cos she is helping out her friends who have helped her out in the past not the regime in particular....grow up guys jamie is rite u guys have tried so hard to fight the dark of CoP that the dark has found u (abit of spiderman there )

ok now wat i see from The Order's point of view, we are being constantly farmed by members of the CIA even after asking them to stop they still carry on knowing full well we cant hit back cos that would drag us in the war, its sad TO are a diplomatic allaince and have been since i joined yet diplomacy doesnt seem to work with u guys.

now this is something we didnt see happening CoP havent touched us (except a few raids in ascension) cos we arent in the war and respect our decision to stay neutral....now if someone would have said that would have happened b4 the war i would have laughed at them but now thats its happening i have to agree with jamie its abit hypocritical of CIA cos they are taking CoP's place

i feel that CIA are playing the same game with TO like they did with Omega to startthe war farming coaxing them into fighting, wat the hell is up with u guys this sint wat i know someone of the allainces in CIA are about i.e. AB and EPAc why do u guys agree with this

and i know that i will get the same replies as jamie has but i dont care this is how i feel and i command jamie to bring this topic to discussion

So wait ..... your mad about the farming?
Everyone in this game gets farmed atm atleast you guys can build a high def to stop it.....
if you guys are sitting there with a 100bill def or maybe some more dont whine if your being farmed.......
That has nothing to do with CoP it happens everywhere......


Things are getting measured way bigger then they actually are but ah well people need something to gossip about....

lmao hardly any of our defences are 100bill we have our defence tested constantly by u guys

its not the fact of the farming its the not stopping wen being asked nicely too as i said its like ur coaxing us ito fighting u guys

atleast CoP show us the respect to stop farming us if we ask them nicely granted some dont stop but there superiours put them in place that doesnt happen with CIA just making a point saying i agree with jamie

[Angnoch]

Right I have read every single post here. And this is my response..

Tweety is a great friend of mine and I don't like seeing her getting caught up in this pointless war, when she helped BOTH sides out.. And thats what has started this..

CIA has destroyed existing friendships just so ye lot can band together stick together just so ye can "overthrow CoP".. Even if you forced CoP to disband, one or two large members of any CoP alliance, or even any alliance is enough to cripple any alliance in this game.. Heck I can mass anyone upto a 1.5 trillion defence, with enough naq and turns... And I'm only a 16 millioner..

I am most pissed at the EPA, (bamse I'm an ex EPA member not TSA) not sticking to their friendships, in fact out of everyone in this Coalition EPAc are only really allies with one alliance.. And not standing up for tweety is one of the worst things I have ever seen from them especially given the nature of their past relationships..

Don't get me wrong on anything here this is NOT an anti CIA thread from me.. This is a don't become worse then CoP which ye are doing thread..

For all those who think I was paid or brainwashed into posting this, no one coaxed me into posting here.. I posted after I spoke to tanya (tweety) and massing her for that reason just really pissed me off.. Tanya loves war.. She is a glutton for punishment.. She doesn't cry or complain about it she just takes her beating and moves on..

As for this we are winning, well all your really doing is preventing CoP from selling resources..... to well..... you lot.. Remember where all these resource cows are.. Omega and DD most of their members are over 50 million army sizes, the average CIA member is roughly one tenth that... Heck hensenshi has nearly 5 trillion in his bank.. Thats enough to repair every single member of EPA's defences to pre war stats, and still have some left over for massing them back down again... I would say that 90% of the larger members of CoP who have become "inactive" would have the same, I don't speak to them but I would imagine that is the case.. Most CIA members can't say the same..

When I see posts like everyone in CIA is enjoying this.. Look at the price it has cost you.. Yes I agree that CoP had to be stopped as all of you know my super alliance stance.. I really REALLY dislike super alliances.. I think they are not needed.. And when everyone jumped on board after the legion did the first attack, I just thought that was not an honourable thing to do... That is why I left EPAc.. Becuase the EPA I joined would have condemned such acts.. And I am still hoping that they will do so.. There is no honour is beating a man when he is down.. Oh there is glory.. But no honour....

All I am saying is that at the end of this conflict, I really hope that everything you all have done is worth it!! For me its worse condemning someone's tactics and then turning around and using their tactics when it benefits yourself.. That is called a hypocrit and like it or not you are a hypocrit if that is what you do.. So when people say to me no its not wrong when we do it, I don't want to hear it, you will NEVER justify using it to me..

The start of this war was similar and symbolic to the Spartans and the Persians, mainly becuase the movie 300, came out about a week after this started.. IF you know your history you will know that Sparta was the dominent power in Ancient Greece, crushing anyone who got in their war.. They where a warrior people not a peaceful people.. If ONE CIA member alliance went up against CoP, they would be the Spartans.. However when you have "the server" going up against CoP that makes CoP the Spartans.. They are still powerful but they are outnumbered..

What happens if CIA win? And CoP is no more? Do ye demand the total disbandment of the individual alliances as well? Of course we all should have learnt from history what happened there!!

But look I am just one man, with one voice.. And yes CIA members have slated me for posting this thread but thats becuase ye know I am right.

My main points are you are becoming like you claim CoP to be.. Becoming what you want to destroy.. What you hate.. When that happens that really defeats the purpose of what you set out and wanted to do at the start..

I just hope in the end it is worth it to you...

What you are saying is true to an extent the problem I think that members of the CIA are having myself included is that you threw all of us into that category even when some CIA members made their feelings on the massing completely clear. Furthermore Spartans were superior.......only in a land war and controlling trade routes *points to Athens* was where the real power came in.

[Defense-Forcefield]

i cant agree with u Jamie...

CiA cant become what CoP or GA was. U know it well, CoP's alliances will always stay power wich everybody have to count with.

and u know that CoP was clibbing the rank without limits. I dont think the CiA will be deleted just after the war, but i dont think anymore that so much alliances can stay in peace for very long time without common goal to reach.

but at the moment, i think this war is the last BIG one we could have on this realm. Most of wars come from the planets stealing, and we are now able to make one by week. So, super alliances like CiA will have no use in a few month (when everybody got 10 planets). Problem is that cop will still have a reason to be, just for 5-6 players who have to keep peace between them in ascended.

Many cop members are telling that we arent fairplay and thing like that. I just ask them to imagine what could be a year of play out of CoP, massed each 2-3 month only cause cop is looking for more fun (remember thing like bloody sunday)

[Avitir]

ok now wat i see from The Order's point of view, we are being constantly farmed by members of the CIA even after asking them to stop they still carry on knowing full well we cant hit back cos that would drag us in the war, its sad TO are a diplomatic allaince and have been since i joined yet diplomacy doesnt seem to work with u guys.

now this is something we didnt see happening CoP havent touched us (except a few raids in ascension) cos we arent in the war and respect our decision to stay neutral....now if someone would have said that would have happened b4 the war i would have laughed at them but now thats its happening i have to agree with jamie its abit hypocritical of CIA cos they are taking CoP's place

i feel that CIA are playing the same game with TO like they did with Omega to startthe war farming coaxing them into fighting, wat the hell is up with u guys this sint wat i know someone of the allainces in CIA are about i.e. AB and EPAc why do u guys agree with this

The Foundation is still operating on a full NAP with The Order. If you have been 'farmed' by any The Foundation member please contact me and the said player in The Foundation will be punished and disciplined according to our internal control systems to ensure such travesties do not happen again.

If any 'neutral' alliance has issue with constant farming/raiding by any The Foundation member I will put a stop to it for you, if you actually tell me so I actually know. So if TO members are being hit by TF please tell me first before complaining.

The Foundation entered the war when backed into a corner. DDE were after us as 'target practice', we had no option. This statement as I have previously said has been substantiated by members of different CoP alliance HC members. CoP/DDE coaxed us into fighting not the other way around

[Raven]

lol jamie man u have said everything that i have been thinking

tweety massed me in the TO v FAHQ war and i got to know her after that and she is a women who helps out friends not stays out cos she could get hurt she helps and that is admirable its just a shock that CIA would mass her for funding CoP wen she was funding CIA too abit stupid and arsy cos she is helping out her friends who have helped her out in the past not the regime in particular....grow up guys jamie is rite u guys have tried so hard to fight the dark of CoP that the dark has found u (abit of spiderman there )

ok now wat i see from The Order's point of view, we are being constantly farmed by members of the CIA even after asking them to stop they still carry on knowing full well we cant hit back cos that would drag us in the war, its sad TO are a diplomatic allaince and have been since i joined yet diplomacy doesnt seem to work with u guys.

now this is something we didnt see happening CoP havent touched us (except a few raids in ascension) cos we arent in the war and respect our decision to stay neutral....now if someone would have said that would have happened b4 the war i would have laughed at them but now thats its happening i have to agree with jamie its abit hypocritical of CIA cos they are taking CoP's place

i feel that CIA are playing the same game with TO like they did with Omega to startthe war farming coaxing them into fighting, wat the hell is up with u guys this sint wat i know someone of the allainces in CIA are about i.e. AB and EPAc why do u guys agree with this

and i know that i will get the same replies as jamie has but i dont care this is how i feel and i command jamie to bring this topic to discussion

So wait ..... your mad about the farming?
Everyone in this game gets farmed atm atleast you guys can build a high def to stop it.....
if you guys are sitting there with a 100bill def or maybe some more dont whine if your being farmed.......
That has nothing to do with CoP it happens everywhere......


Things are getting measured way bigger then they actually are but ah well people need something to gossip about....

lmao hardly any of our defences are 100bill we have our defence tested constantly by u guys

its not the fact of the farming its the not stopping wen being asked nicely too as i said its like ur coaxing us ito fighting u guys

atleast CoP show us the respect to stop farming us if we ask them nicely granted some dont stop but there superiours put them in place that doesnt happen with CIA just making a point saying i agree with jamie

CoP stops farming when you ask them nicely

Jesus can you make the asskissing even more obvious....