Leaders of CIA

[Alabrax]

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.

How could you possibly know what we do privately? Please stop your half informed crusade about things you know nothing about.

[Neimenljivi]

How are we using CoP tactics? Massing them? Farming them? Raiding them? Sorry I didn't realise you could only make you account stronger if you were in CoP. Silly me.

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.. If I where in that position I would protect tweety since she helped BOTH sides.. But all you lot care about is she helped your enemy so she "has to be destroyed"..

As for the hate that people associate me with CIA.. Ok yeah to be honest I am especially pissed off with EPA for turning thier backs on everything the alliance was about when it was set up.. They used to above anythng else protect people.. And when I was "invited" to war by a friend of mine when I got in the conversation, I was told I was a spy.. And people went mad at me.. Which is total bull.. So yeah I am a little pissed off at the people who where supposed to be my side.. Who wouldn't?

Then there was the general BS saying I couldn't be trusted and that noone from the EPAc should talk to me, a few different people have said it to me so no point denying it.. Its funny how people forget so easily everything you do for them when you go against what they believe in....

But I've put that behind me as I know who my friends are.. Yeah some are CIA, some are CoP and some are neutral.. I stand by the decisions I made.. And I stand by this thread..

If you condone the actions taken by one person/group and you allow others who you associate yourself with, that makes you a hypocrit!!!

If any CIA members stick together or not at the end that is to be seen... The EPA I was once in and joined would have gone against the legion for such actions.. I guess that will never happen.. So much for honour in your friendships..

So basicly if I decide to go on toilet, all other CIA leaders need to agree and allow me to go to the toilet? And if they say no, I must not go on toilet?

We don't act the same, we're just coalition of alliances against CoP, each with own path, reasons, tactics, and most important, decisions. You seem like you don't want to understand this...

Also don't worry - CIA will disband after the war...

Tanya should have stayed neutral in the war, not funding ANY side.

Also if CoP masses officers of my members who are neutral, hell yer that I'm going to mass their officers back!

Using the example with terrorists, terrorist CAN be killed on 3 diffrent ways. With weapons, with bare hands, with making them starve to death. In each of those three ways, there are tones of diffrent tactics, solution, etc. Why would America send terrorists to kill terrorists if they can send bomber and nuke them to stoneage? Why would they send terrorists, if they can send 2 snipers? Why would they send terrorists if they can send tanks? There are LOTS of diffrent tactics how to kill them, but I don't see how you can kill account here. Sure, you can mass, kill spies, destroy def, destroy MS, sabotage attack, abandon planets, but HOW CAN YOU KILL ACCOUNT? You cannot kill account and u aren't stupid enough to kill the player (I hope). The only way is to kill their ego. Why wouldn't u use their tactics against them? They're bad, SO WHAT IF THEY WERE USED AGAINST YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE? Did we start with using low tactics? NO! Did we use them against our enemy when they were used against us? YES! Is it right? Answer is, eye for an eye.

Also don't put my words into my mouth, as you know that I am refeering with last question and answer to low things made intentionaly. Just so that you won't post "if someone would hit your dog with a car by accident u're claiming that it's right for you to kill his dog with a car then" and similiar posts.

CIA isn't an alliance, CIA leaders don't have any power to make decisions about other alliances in CIA, that's the way it is. We're not hypocrits cause of it. Sure if we'd say "muahaha tweety u n00b u knew u shouldn't fund cop" yeah, that WOULD be hypocritical but I HAVEN'T seen a post like this, while I did see some when CoP massed random alliance(s) posts like "have fun guys ; mass the n00bs ; I wish you'd say me when you were massing"

I won't comment about what happend in EPA since I don't know (yeah I admit) as I am not in EPA(c).

but please, stop with BS and lock the thread.

n

[Bazsy]

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.

How could you possibly know what we do privately? Please stop your half informed crusade about things you know nothing about.

Well than you guys should stop saying COP is bad cause this or that member did something and the others didn't do anything to stop it;) ... how could you possibly know what cop members do privately?

[Avitir]

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.

How could you possibly know what we do privately? Please stop your half informed crusade about things you know nothing about.

Well than you guys should stop saying COP is bad cause this or that member did something and the others didn't do anything to stop it;) ... how could you possibly know what cop members do privately?

6th sense Baz, that's how- point well taken, some points do have some basis but others are just quite clearly made up like........

Hear the latest- ETL is actually just a supercomputer and is usuing SGW to finetune it's world conquering capabilities- much like the computer in Terminator- I think that adds to your point Baz

[Bazsy]

So lets destroy the evil plan, everyone set everyone else to peace and hug a tree

That would put a big in that computer program;)

[Thufir_Hawat]

90% of COP members no one ever had a problem with. And, I dont think enough people regognize that. But that 90% did openly support the other 10%.

I think we see that in non COP matters CIA alliances do not support every other alliance or player.

That was the outside view of many, and I belive the perception that COP wanted to project. "Mass any of us and you may face all of us" Which was totally their right. The game is one of freewill, players can decide to play how they like.

We all need to give Credit to COP for allowing so many to grow enough to counter them. They were not the total tyrants that prevented all growth in Main.

I also belive that COPs are no longer the same alliances as before the WAR nor will their policies be the same.

I do not know what the majority of COP members feel, I can only gauge their resolve by the number leaving and those posting here in anger or denial that it is not a war and it is boring.

Now do we try a ceasefire to see if things have changed?

[J.S.]

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.

How could you possibly know what we do privately? Please stop your half informed crusade about things you know nothing about.

I know a lot more then you know

And as for the "ass kissing of CoP" I would rather spend a full day shopping with my mother, sisters and girlfriend then ass kiss to anyone... If I spent more time ass kissing in real life I probably would have a 10,000 times better job then the one I currently have but I have pride at stake here.. Ask ANY CoP member have I ever ass kissed to them... All will answer no..

People think I am generalising them, when they do it to me.. All you lot think is that I am ass kissing to CoP.. All I thinking is that tweety's so called friends in CIA could have done more to prevent this..

All of you hate CoP so much when you fail to realise that CIA at the moment in this war never mind the past or future is becoming so much worse then CoP.. And I am on the outside of BOTH parties looking in..

[J.S.]

90% of COP members no one ever had a problem with. And, I dont think enough people regognize that. But that 90% did openly support the other 10%.

I think we see that in non COP matters CIA alliances do not support every other alliance or player.

That was the outside view of many, and I belive the perception that COP wanted to project. "Mass any of us and you may face all of us" Which was totally their right. The game is one of freewill, players can decide to play how they like.

We all need to give Credit to COP for allowing so many to grow enough to counter them. They were not the total tyrants that prevented all growth in Main.

I also belive that COPs are no longer the same alliances as before the WAR nor will their policies be the same.

I do not know what the majority of COP members feel, I can only gauge their resolve by the number leaving and those posting here in anger or denial that it is not a war and it is boring.

Now do we try a ceasefire to see if things have changed?

One very intelligent person here.. Spot on on all his views..

The majority of CoP are BORED with this war.. They will fight to the end but they are so bored becuase there is nothing anyone can do.. One person said he had 5 billion out the other day for a whole turn.. And he was actually stat building again.. If that isn't boredom nothing is...

The problem is CIA members want the job done, they have said so themselves.. Keep fighting untill CoP is no more.. NEWSFLASH unless ye physically remove every single member of CoP from the game even if you disband CoP it will ALWAYS exist..

CoP isn't one huge scary alliance ye have proven that... It is a group of friends who WILL stick together..

What else is there to do to them? Yeah its a war of attrition.. The first side with all their members to leave losses.. And yeah CoP players have left more but most are due to RL commitments like Corkscrew getting a new job.. And others who just want out of the game..

CIA can never win.. CoP can never win.. WHATS THE POINT IN CONTINUING?


EDIT: And might as well post this now.. ONLY a few people know about this.. CoP where on the verge of disbanding completely right before the start of this war.. The legion was going to be the last CoP war.. Then the rest of CIA joined in.. So if all of you had just left the legion to it CoP would have crushed them as always then disbanded becuase they KNEW they where too powerful for the game... No point being the strongest if you don;t have a challenge!!

We don't act the same, we're just coalition of alliances against CoP, each with own path, reasons, tactics, and most important, decisions. You seem like you don't want to understand this...

Just so that you won't post "if someone would hit your dog with a car by accident u're claiming that it's right for you to kill his dog with a car then" and similiar posts.

CIA isn't an alliance, CIA leaders don't have any power to make decisions about other alliances in CIA, that's the way it is. We're not hypocrits cause of it. Sure if we'd say "muahaha tweety u n00b u knew u shouldn't fund cop" yeah, that WOULD be hypocritical but I HAVEN'T seen a post like this, while I did see some when CoP massed random alliance(s) posts like "have fun guys ; mass the n00bs ; I wish you'd say me when you were massing"

n

Your right you don't act the same ye just carry the same flag.. All CoP members don't go around acting like power hungry ego maniacs they just carry the CoP flag..

My dog was hit by a car.. She was knocked down when a woman was speeding.. She stopped and then said it was my fault for the dog being in the middle of the road.. This is in the middle of the countryside where maybe there is one car passing every 2 hours.. She was doing 70MPH on the backroads coming around that bend.. If it had been my sister or me in the middle of the road I would have been killed.. That is a very sore subject as I was 11 at the time..

Yeah your saying you can't control Legion or any other alliance your fighting along side with.. This is the same in CoP.. Oh wait actually CoP have structure.. A system which is obeyed or be kicked.. If someone goes against CoP high command they are kicked.. I would imagine that CIA commanders have a meeting room to co-ordinate attacks, it is always nice to inform your allies of your intentions.. If I where a commander in a super alliance like that I would pull my alliance out of that so called alliance..

As for the new msn messages where I betrayed EPAc.. I never have.. I am not a sell out like some people I know..

[Alabrax]

By allowing tweety to be massed by one of the CIA members and not even trying to stop it.

How could you possibly know what we do privately? Please stop your half informed crusade about things you know nothing about.

I know a lot more then you know

Evidently not... otherwise you wouldn't be going on and on about this Tweety issue and EPAC.

[Major Lincoln LaFayette]

"EDIT: And might as well post this now.. ONLY a few people know about this.. CoP where on the verge of disbanding completely right before the start of this war.. The legion was going to be the last CoP war.. Then the rest of CIA joined in.. So if all of you had just left the legion to it CoP would have crushed them as always then disbanded becuase they KNEW they where too powerful for the game... No point being the strongest if you don;t have a challenge!!"

So, it all would have been fixed if we just left the poor tyrants alone.
Wow. I feel so petty.

[Brdavs]

Remember it was AFTER the legion went through CoP that the rest of the cowards jumped on board.. Talk about hitting someone when they are down.. To me anyone who hit CoP after the initial legion strike is just as bad as beating a guy in a wheelchair... That's why I didn't join becuase I am not a coward just hitting them when they are already down.. Whats the point in that?

CoP where on the verge of disbanding completely right before the start of this war.. The legion was going to be the last CoP war.. Then the rest of CIA joined in.. So if all of you had just left the legion to it CoP would have crushed them as always then disbanded becuase they KNEW they where too powerful for the game... No point being the strongest if you don;t have a challenge!!

Which one is it, we`re all cowards cos we started kicking them while they were down or we screwed ourselves by stepping in and delaying their "last pwnage"?

The majority of CoP are BORED with this war..

Then the war is almost won it would seem!


Seriously, if 90% of COP are bored thats hardly any reason to stop.

The simplest solution is to wait a month or two till 90% of CIA is also bored out of their skulls. Only fair that both have their share of "fun". Should be easy to find a way out after that. Oh, and constantly whining about the war raises interest and is therefore counterproductive heh...

[Major Lincoln LaFayette]

So lets destroy the evil plan, everyone set everyone else to peace and hug a tree

That would put a big in that computer program;)

I'm allergic to trees. I'd break out.

[Thufir_Hawat]

What Jamie does not understand is that CIA has already won.

No we will could never get every member of COPs to leave their alliances surrendering but we have had the greatest impact in the last year on their membership ranks and I belive future policy.

So if you define winning as all of COPs surrendering and disbanding then no we can not win. If you define it as achieving a goal then I belive we have. Does COP still dominate the game? Will they unite again against a single alliance as they did against TL?

I belive having a ceasefire may allow us to see if the goals are a reality or not. But then I think I want to see what High Empty will do also .




Jamie, you and Momento both annoy me personally, I know you think you are neutral yet your post and his are very inflamatory. I am confident I am not your only new enemy. Your post are your fourm rights though and I presume you are willing to accept what ever enemies you make with them.

[~Phoenix~]

So if you define winning as all of COPs surrendering and disbanding then no we can not win. If you define it as achieving a goal then I belive we have. Does COP still dominate the game? Will they unite again against a single alliance as they did against TL?

If somne CIA alliance hit a neutral alliance then all of teh CIA's would. Well maybe not all but more than that first 1.

So how is that any different?

I also noticed something while searching. The ones who are still enjoying the war are the ones who suck at normal gameplay! That explains it they cant keep up to the challeng enormally lol. So they want it much more simple

[Thufir_Hawat]

Both statments were uncalled for!

A. Yes, I belive some alliances will stand together. But not all 7 and not as a policy. So dont go try setting it up where you get it so that, for example, TF has to face DUNE on their own.

B. I would hope you would respect those in The War on both sides better by now, but I guess not. Since it is not NORMAL gameplay to you.

If your going to sit in DUNE then please do not readd fuel to the war right after I suggest there may be a ceasefire.

Phoenix, I felt you were one of their best fighters, and I respected that. I was disapointed when you left for DUNE. But I see no reason why you need to come here presuming what CIA will do and also insulting its members.

Sorry if I reminded you leaveing for DUNE is surrendering. I know it is hard for someplayers to admit.