Tricky DUNE

[buck]

maybe everypne should try looking at it another way, if they dont want to hit vact mode and still play, whats stopping them joining a differenet alliance?

just because we have made it very clear what the alliance is about all we seem to get all the time is Dune shouldnt b here, well ok then look at it another way nither should The Oredr or KNIGHTS OF TRINITY or a lot of others

some people just dont have the time anymore or just dont care about the farm war, i myself have took myself out because im about to have another child soon so i have had to cut back the hours i sit here, as for others we dont ask if they want out the thats upto them, just they have to stay out of it

also everyone keeps going on about they must stay out, do u know how that makes me laugh all the time, unless u r a moron y would u build a defence just to join back in to have massed away?

what r they going to do build a 10 tri defence and maybe not have it massed, dont think anyone is going to do that, not even me maybe in about 6 months i might have a defence like that but who knows

Im not going to post, im just going to quote reborn and steal his post....

[Hensenshi]

Honestly I don't like the idea of having a way to retreat and not be bothered. In a real war, a soldier can't just say "screw this I'm out of here" and get away with it legally. At the same time it shows who's loyal to their alliance and who isn't.

[geisha]

Honestly I don't like the idea of having a way to retreat and not be bothered. In a real war, a soldier can't just say "screw this I'm out of here" and get away with it legally. At the same time it shows who's loyal to their alliance and who isn't.

I hate to p*** on your parade but this is not a real war... this is after all a game... people tend to play games to escape from reality and to have some fun... so why would you even want to compare a war in a game to a real war? A real war isn't fun, now is it? Neither is a game real...

[buck]

This isnt a real war though, its on the internet, and some of us are unable to come to the phone now so please try again later...

In a real war a solider cant say "bugger" and go on ppt for 4 days...

They cant go into vacation either....

They cant build anything unless he gets reinforcements....

They doesnt have alliances, he has nations....

IN sgws they do however...

Have RL issues that need sorting....

No internet

Etc etc...the list is endless...

Its the cycle of life, those who wish to take people going to dune personally have to deal with the brothers grim (STI, Reborn) and the vast majority of people who support it....Lets face it, just give people a break, if they wanna break i aint gunna stand in there way, Nor am i gunna complain about it...

[Cole]

The line between realism and virtualism is hard to place..Because there are people who are for realism and others who are not.

[Bad Wolf]

maybe everypne should try looking at it another way, if they dont want to hit vact mode and still play, whats stopping them joining a differenet alliance?

just because we have made it very clear what the alliance is about all we seem to get all the time is Dune shouldnt b here, well ok then look at it another way nither should The Oredr or KNIGHTS OF TRINITY or a lot of others

some people just dont have the time anymore or just dont care about the farm war, i myself have took myself out because im about to have another child soon so i have had to cut back the hours i sit here, as for others we dont ask if they want out the thats upto them, just they have to stay out of it

also everyone keeps going on about they must stay out, do u know how that makes me laugh all the time, unless u r a moron y would u build a defence just to join back in to have massed away?

what r they going to do build a 10 tri defence and maybe not have it massed, dont think anyone is going to do that, not even me maybe in about 6 months i might have a defence like that but who knows

I am not asking questions of your reasons, I am sure you have plenty of good reasons to stay out of the war, but It does bring a few question marks over other peoples movitives and even when STI clearly said he knows there are people hiding the from war in there.

And the thing you said about the Order is pointless in my eyes. I think alliances like the Order, Team Bono etc dont want to be in this war for there own reasons, and they were never in it. They dont have to fight I am not saying everyone does. What I am saying is people shouldnt be allowed is EX-alliance members funding alliance members.

As far as I know, The Order, Team Bono and everyone else dont do this.

BWG

[Thufir_Hawat]

I think having DUNE allows alliances to fight longer than they would if they had to listen to all their Members who want out. Instead now many alliances continue to fight while their members some temporarily move to a neutral site.

But now it is done, and we will anaylize the long term results after the war is over to see what actually happens with those players who fled the war to DUNE.

Also of note, DUNE is only neutral because of the communites respect of STI. Neither side fears him joining the war, but honor it out of respect for him, so I hope those there who have surrendered honor the respect given him to allow them to play their own way there without supporting their friends.

Hensenshi I agree with 110% once again. Those that were in Omega and DD are where they are now from the long time protection from their coalition mates and outside forces, to run now after a month or two of war shows great disrespect to their mates left behind.

I run a buisness that requires me in the field and have a family that I eat dinner with and help with homework, take to gym etc... I have trouble understanding how anyone can be busier and be able to play yet not fight.

It is a matter of living by the sword or not. Many alliances do not. Those players that joined a warrior alliance should see it to the end.

Don

[Bazsy]

Badwolf: Just tell this again when you get some RL issues for a few month.
Also: I asked admin how could we make this thing controlled. But he cant.
And you cant stop ppl funding their friends, since you will never know about it... And there is no way of knowing about it for STI either.

[Bad Wolf]

Badwolf: Just tell this again when you get some RL issues for a few month.

I have 3 essays in for next week, [ all of which I havent started ]

I have to build other projects for my degree in the next month that I also havent started.

I work 3-4 days a week

I have many 'RL Issues' this month, but I will try my best to stay active and do what I can for my team.

Because thats all you can do...... Your Best.


Bad Wolf The Galactico

[reborn]

And the thing you said about the Order is pointless in my eyes. I think alliances like the Order, Team Bono etc dont want to be in this war for there own reasons, and they were never in it. They dont have to fight I am not saying everyone does. What I am saying is people shouldnt be allowed is EX-alliance members funding alliance members.

As far as I know, The Order, Team Bono and everyone else dont do this.

BWG

and y is that pointless, i was pointing out noone is saying anything about them.

just because they have been in a war what r they meant to do just stay in it?

and i like your other point there AS FAR AS U KNOW

well we go by the same thing we tell everyone joining they r to stay out of the war that means giving stuff as well

what r we meant to become mind readers

just say we got rid of DUNE whats to stop a the memebers it has atm to join another alliance? what u going to start then that alliance should b gotten rid off?

[Thufir_Hawat]

I dont belive players are upset about DUNE. Your right those that left could go anywhere, but I doubt many other alliances want a player that is involved in this war.

Players if they want out should lobby their leaders to bring an end to The War. That is how wars end. We see this in many countries now lobbing to move out of Iraq not because we are losing but because they are not fighting "fair" against us there.

It is all mute now. I don't understand this thread. DUNE is based on Honor for those that have no Honor. So we respect STI and move on with our game plans. No one plans on attacking DUNE, that I know of, that would be breaking our word. Let those that went there for whatever reason be left alone.

[Bad Wolf]

And the thing you said about the Order is pointless in my eyes. I think alliances like the Order, Team Bono etc dont want to be in this war for there own reasons, and they were never in it. They dont have to fight I am not saying everyone does. What I am saying is people shouldnt be allowed is EX-alliance members funding alliance members.

As far as I know, The Order, Team Bono and everyone else dont do this.

BWG

and y is that pointless, i was pointing out noone is saying anything about them.

just because they have been in a war what r they meant to do just stay in it?

and i like your other point there AS FAR AS U KNOW

well we go by the same thing we tell everyone joining they r to stay out of the war that means giving stuff as well

what r we meant to become mind readers

just say we got rid of DUNE whats to stop a the memebers it has atm to join another alliance? what u going to start then that alliance should b gotten rid off?

I think someone who was in the war before still has 'feelings' if that is the right word to use, for the alliances they were in. So would want to help more than if they had just joined a neutral alliance, as they would be trying to make an impression in that alliance etc.

As Thufir said nutral alliance leaders dont normally want ex war members as it brings a whole host of problems.

BWG

[geisha]

Badwolf: Just tell this again when you get some RL issues for a few month.

I have 3 essays in for next week, [ all of which I havent started ]

I have to build other projects for my degree in the next month that I also havent started.

I work 3-4 days a week

I have many 'RL Issues' this month, but I will try my best to stay active and do what I can for my team.

Because thats all you can do...... Your Best.


Bad Wolf The Galactico

Have to agree 286% there (can I steal taht BW fan club siggy of yours? ) but I think the question is how you set your priorities. If you have a lot of real life stuff to deal with, something will always suffer, either your commitment to your alliance or something in your real life - be it your job, school, friends, family... and there might be times where you will have to make a decision (e.g. when your kids start calling you "uncle" or even worse they start calling their uncle "daddy"... then you might have been wasting too much time on the game ).

Luckily I didn't have to make a decision like that so far... even though I have a lot of work and my family is giving me a hard time because they can't even remember what I look like... it's all good.. my cats are still calling me mommy

[Bad Wolf]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217 ... lf_ub2.jpg

If you really want it Darling lol.

And I pretty much wasted alot of so called 'revision' time playing SGW when I was ment to be doing my GCSEs and then my A levels and now my Degree.

But If I wasnt doing this I would find something else to wreack my life with lol.

I dont blame SGW I blame myself, and I know it sounds stupid but I am addicted to this game.

BWG

[Hensenshi]

Honestly I don't like the idea of having a way to retreat and not be bothered. In a real war, a soldier can't just say "screw this I'm out of here" and get away with it legally. At the same time it shows who's loyal to their alliance and who isn't.

I hate to p*** on your parade but this is not a real war... this is after all a game... people tend to play games to escape from reality and to have some fun... so why would you even want to compare a war in a game to a real war? A real war isn't fun, now is it? Neither is a game real...

Maybe, but the loyalty should still exist.