DUNE

[reborn]

Making this very clear for everyone, ive sent this message to all Dune memeber

1 This is not a hiding place for anyone
2 If and memeber gets attacked for naq from either COP or CIA, i dont c y they cant attack back for naq
3 This alliance is not like any other alliance we dont speak for one as i dont even know most of them, we dont even have a forum
4 if u start running threw the alliance like u would if u r taking it to war rest asured i dont care what alliance u r in and that means anyone i will run threw u not your alliance just U
5 If one of Dune members says that he will bring this alliance to war, he is mistaken and is to b brought striaght to my atension as this aint going to happen

If anyone wants anything else explained pls just asked i hope i have covered the most improtant parts thank you

[Raven]

People in DUNE cant hit people in the war cause they would be vultures on the other hand people in DUNE can build freely if they dont have enough def to protect their naq thats their problem......

If there is anything agreed on this im srr but i just cant find it...

[blahh]

yeah i didnt get the memo on it eihter, true i try to avoid them, but if their def is realy rediculus, and naq out is enough, i dont see why a guy cant make a normal naq hit.

[Huxley]

1 This is not a hiding place for anyone

Trust me, I know one person who is... i should know its from me

[reborn]

i have told all memebers to build a decent defence and said it before dont come whining to me if u get hit, but they aint vulters if they can b hit and not hit back that same person not anyone else but the same one

[Juliette]

I second Ravens comment, and I wish to add KGB's views on DUNE.

KGB is of the opinion that DUNE is to be excluded from ANY combat activities, whether related to the current war or not. All other options have been considered, and have subsequently been rejected. DUNE is to be an untouchable area, any attacks should be reported to the representatives from CIA or CoP's alliance that is involved in the attack on the DUNE member. The member of DUNE is not to be allowed to strike back at all, but stolen goods, units or planets WILL be returned to their owner after evaluating the case. A warning will be issued to those involved in striking DUNE.
Anyone from DUNE who decides to attack someone waives his right to not be attacked. Confirmation of that particular person's status is to be given by the alliance leader of the person who was attacked by the DUNE member. Then, that member is to be reported to DUNE's representatives, and given a 24 hour notice before being annihilated.

That's the point with NAP's... if you break them, you have to bear the consequences.

This is only a proposal, and represents only the opinion of KGB.

[Raven]

i have told all memebers to build a decent defence and said it before dont come whining to me if u get hit, but they aint vulters if they can b hit and not hit back that same person not anyone else but the same one

the difference would be that we cant build but they can and as it would make everyone vultures so would DUNE people be.....

Let me make clear that i dont hit them and not planning on either but i could understand why people would hit them there some pretty crappy def out there with big incomes.....

[reborn]

1 This is not a hiding place for anyone

Trust me, I know one person who is... i should know its from me

well if so i am not stopping anyone hitting for naq, just dont want to c the massing, but as i just said if anyone can hit for naq then that person ONLY should accept the fact they can get hit back

all the alliance memebers have been told to stay clear of COP and CIA but as i said above that does stands, if they choose not to attack back thats up to them, but it not a place to were they get hit from one so they can farm everyone in CIA or COP i have made that clear the one that hits u, hit them back if u want for the naq

[reborn]

i have told all memebers to build a decent defence and said it before dont come whining to me if u get hit, but they aint vulters if they can b hit and not hit back that same person not anyone else but the same one

the difference would be that we cant build but they can and as it would make everyone vultures so would DUNE people be.....

Let me make clear that i dont hit them and not planning on either but i could understand why people would hit them there some pretty crappy def out there with big incomes.....

agreed if they make a big income they can afford the defence aswell

[JediMasterX]

yeah i didnt get the memo on it eihter, true i try to avoid them, but if their def is realy rediculus, and naq out is enough, i dont see why a guy cant make a normal naq hit.

So you're telling me if I took a run through all of CIA right now and stole a couple hundred bil naq, you wouldn't see anything wrong with that? Because thats the vibe I'm getting right now...

[reborn]

yeah i didnt get the memo on it eihter, true i try to avoid them, but if their def is realy rediculus, and naq out is enough, i dont see why a guy cant make a normal naq hit.

So you're telling me if I took a run through all of CIA right now and stole a couple hundred bil naq, you wouldn't see anything wrong with that? Because thats the vibe I'm getting right now...

u can put that down to there still building were as some in Dune have been here a while and should already have a defence

[Juliette]

So you're telling me if I took a run through all of CIA right now and stole a couple hundred bil naq, you wouldn't see anything wrong with that? Because thats the vibe I'm getting right now...

There's no mention of DUNE in the ceasefire... as for trouble, I *HOPE* you'll have more trouble with your alliance leader than with those you hit.
As for vibes... tell me about it. 1.8 trillion... why oh why this ceasefire.

[Arashi]

What Reborn is trying to say is:

From my understanding (Reborn & S T I can correct me if I'm wrong):
1) DUNE members are not allowed to attack, for any reason, members of Alliances that are still participating in the WAR.

2) Exception to Rule #1: DUNE members are allowed to retaliate *think eye for an eye* against members of alliances participating in the war, that attack them.

3a) IF a DUNE member has a lot of naq out but not enough defense to "decently" protect it, then it's a fair naq hit and they cannot complain about it (build a bigger defense).

3b) On the other hand, if they have a decent defense, but someone is still farming them, then they may contact Reborn (or S T I if available) to have this sorted and taken care of.

4) Any DUNE member caught supporting any side in the war will be dismissed from the alliance, never to be able to return. Both factions will be notified as to why this was done with the evidence that lead to the dismissal.

5) If a DUNE member attacks you, and it was not a retaliation, report the incident to Reborn... Please do not retaliate immediately, give Reborn time to deal with it.

6) DUNE as a whole will NOT be used to retaliate against anyone. If a member threatens attack with DUNE, contact Reborn or STI about it immediately.

Please do not accuse people of HIDING in DUNE to rebuild, without proof. If you have proof, send it to Reborn, and he will deal with it appropriately.

***Personal Opinions***
I originally thought that we already had something similar to what "KGB" suggested, as the first thing I was told is that we were NOT allowed under ANY circumstances to attack CIA or CoP members.

IF something like this were put in place, that would be useful, but something would still have to be worked out so that people couldn't have 10 bil naq out with a 1 bil def.

We were told to try to maintain at least 10 bil def for every 1 bil naq we have out. (that's a minimum we were given).

[RB Ian]

I'll admit that whenever someone attacks one of my officers, I hit them with one attack turn. This has included I believe 3 members of the war. I do not consider this being a vulture (especially since my repair costs are more than I can get with one attack turn), but I will stop if people think that it's not fair for me to hit them

[geisha]

I have removed the discussion about typos to avoid this thread to be derailed any further.

And I'd like to remind everyone of our good old forum rules

5. You may not attack another member's spelling / English.