banned accounts due to 'attack/give resource' bug abuse

[Quina Quen]

Paul's 'pleasure to assist you'? Cheeky git, fat lot of good he did.

[~Krys~]

lol you have to love user agreements
ive had similar disputes before aint fun

[Rottenking]

so dose this mean sellers should list selling naq and uu on ebay?

[funkynote]

would be better hehehhe

[thorslittleworld]

rottenking said

so dose this mean sellers should list selling naq and uu on ebay?

You may say that as a joke but you know what you have a good point

but I wonder what ebay and paypal would do if a disupte took place, would they still bang on to

"virtual goods" somehow I bet until it goes wrong nothing would stop it, but when it does go wrong, that clause will hit you like a wet fish accross the face

basically I dont think it would work, good idea but a thumbs down from me

[PyroDemonBJK]

Isn't PayPal owned by EBay? I thought they were the same thing, but the uses for it spread.

[Rottenking]

rottenking said

so dose this mean sellers should list selling naq and uu on ebay?

You may say that as a joke but you know what you have a good point

but I wonder what ebay and paypal would do if a disupte took place, would they still bang on to

"virtual goods" somehow I bet until it goes wrong nothing would stop it, but when it does go wrong, that clause will hit you like a wet fish accross the face

basically I dont think it would work, good idea but a thumbs down from me

was a semi joke but true,
i belive you could sell it on ebay but i doubt many would cause its just to much work

[thorslittleworld]

I have now filed a complaint against paypal using there complaints procedure

they are not budging on the "virtual goods" nor the fact that it was not an "ebay" item

basically they will NOT provide any assistance what so ever in returning money obtained in the way it has

[Munchy]

rottenking said

so dose this mean sellers should list selling naq and uu on ebay?

You may say that as a joke but you know what you have a good point

but I wonder what ebay and paypal would do if a disupte took place, would they still bang on to

"virtual goods" somehow I bet until it goes wrong nothing would stop it, but when it does go wrong, that clause will hit you like a wet fish accross the face

basically I dont think it would work, good idea but a thumbs down from me

I remember someone actually doing this with uu's and naq a few months ago...lol. At first it got a decent few bids, but then slowly interest in the method of selling dwindled.

[Shinobii]

I don't play MMORPG, but i did some searching.

Selling in-game goods for cash is against the terms of service for most games.

Probably because of this issue, when people can start making money from a game, suddenly cheating becomes economically beneficial.

Let me ask you this though, if you were to spend $500 dollars on an account, and forum suddenly shut off the game tomorrow, would you sue forum?

[R3B3L]

Shinobii.

You can't stop the selling of in-game profits for £/$ or what ever currency a country uses.

People will make their own forums, and advertise on MSN.

Or advertise in-game. (Planets, messages etc)

[Shinobii]

Shinobii.

You can't stop the selling of in-game profits for £/$ or what ever currency a country uses.

People will make their own forums, and advertise on MSN.

Or advertise in-game. (Planets, messages etc)

Yes, I realize it will never actually stop. You can't police every forum, or every MSN name. What you can do is make it so that your not liable and just wash your hands of the whole affair. Start banning accounts that are selling for real money when you find them.

The reason being, it sounds like this whole problem is a lot more stressful for forum because he is trying to get paypal to refund the lost money due to buying illegal UU. He shouldn't have to deal with it. Paypal makes it clear that if you buy virtual goods, your assed out if the deal is bad.

Like I said though, how long until someone decides to go after forum, or sue the game itself.

Rather then create these complications, it would be better to turn this back into a "game" rather then someones piggy bank.

Get back to working on the game, rather then spending time chasing people that are ripping off real world money.

[Angnoch]

you say that yet you dont seem to understand that no matter what Forum does people will always be able to buy ingame goods with cash, if they really want to, and having a black market where they can regulate the deals to some extent helps keep it safer.

[Munchy]

you say that yet you dont seem to understand that no matter what Forum does people will always be able to buy ingame goods with cash, if they really want to, and having a black market where they can regulate the deals to some extent helps keep it safer.

Shinobi isn't saying that it will stop, just to a point where Forum can no longer be liable for crap when stuff goes wrong. Right now he follows a 'no action' policy, allowing people to sell goods on the forum for money. If he was to make that stop, while it wouldn't truly stop, it could help prevent cases like this from happening and him being forcefully involved.

And yes, there is an ingame market for $. That is fine, nobody is arguing about that.

[Zeratul]

preventing $ sales on forums was tried once... it failed miserably... it is too much work for the mods to prevent it...