Any Vegans(its okay not to be) or vegetarians out there?

[~Zekk~]

quadruple poster!

and yay pro vegan stats



~Zekk~ - Though this probably does belong in this/that >.>

Hey, if we can talk about who is sick and who is not in general then can we talk about who is veg. or who is not?

meh, technically the thread your refering to doesnt belong here either. But i'm only a race mod..so meh..

And DG, teh vegan life is alot cheaper if you do it right.

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~Zekk~

[Death God]

And DG, teh vegan life is alot cheaper if you do it right.

ROFLMAO

NOT around here it isnt.... we got a whole section just for vegans and it costs 3 times as much as anything else. WHOLEY ORGANIC MY ASS .. more like WHOLE ORGANIC CASH BURNER ><

[~Zekk~]

you dont have to do organic to do vegan, if you do non-organic it is cheaper - and very much so.



~Zekk~

[Death God]

but the non organic stuff has those chemicals in them ...... I used to get stuff at a local farm but it was closed down .... We even owned a pet pig once and hhad to get rid of it ..... It was sent to that same farm

[Apadizamek]

i egg vegans

Would you care to tell me that there is even one creature on this planet that does not feel pain? What makes us so much better than them?

one word mate, Intelligence.

Of course their are health stuff, but hell these are stupid animals we DESERVE to eat them and frankly meat can be incredibly good for you IF you mix it with veggies which WE USUALLY DO.

You talk about all that stuff like we can feed lots more, frankly we have a population problem and 90% of those people are uneducated and no use to the earth so to not sound too darwinistic, survival of the fittest. Frankly africa needs to be booted out because we need those resources.

Also i think were damn humane, tell me would you prefer to have your throat slit, or to be eaten alive. starve, disease or hundreds of other terrible tortuous way to die. I own chickens and we give them a damn good life, we've eaten one or two but meh. However they got a little angry at one of the weaker ones and pecked his leg off...

[Death God]

one word mate, Intelligence.

Of course their are health stuff, but hell these are stupid animals we DESERVE to eat them and frankly meat can be incredibly good for you IF you mix it with veggies which WE USUALLY DO.

Were we not stupid creatures back in old times? What if we let the animals evolve whay If they became smarter than us What if they develop an intelegeince? Just cause we can not understand them fully at this point in time, who says they are not inteligent HMM???

[Silver Neccho]

Sorry, but you have no logic, unless you consider crap low grade meat like hotdogs cheap you are crazy. Hotdogs are pumped with chemicals!

Oh and a veg diet is much cheaper than a meat diet, want more statistics?

User of more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S.: livestock production
Amount of water used in production of the average cow: sufficient to float a destroyer
Gallons of water needed to produce a pound of wheat: 25
Gallons of water needed to produce a pound of California beef: 5,000
Years the world's known oil reserves would last if every human ate a meat-centered diet: 13
Years they would last if human beings no longer ate meat: 260
Calories of fossil fuel expended to get 1 calorie of protein from beef: 78
To get 1 calorie of protein from soybeans: 2
Percentage of all raw materials (base products of farming, forestry and mining, including fossil fuels) consumed by U.S. that is devoted to the production of livestock: 33
Percentage of all raw materials consumed by the U.S. needed to produce a complete vegetarian diet: 2


So there you go! More facts that make it clear!

[Death God]

After i went to a hotdog factory at the age of 12 i never touched one of those things again.

Well you try coming to where I live and see how the handel the vegs and such and why the prices so damn high .... Hell I work at the market so I know how its treated ..... thats why im now sticking to energy bars and energy driinks Loosing so much damn weight too

[agapooka]

The body actually absorbs more of the nutrients when they come from vegetation.

J

[Silver Neccho]

And check this out, more facts

* Most food animals are killed by the process of Kosher slaughter. Kosher slaughter involves hanging an animal particullarly a cow or pig by its hooves. The animal's neck is cut without any kind of anethesia. The animal hangs and bleeds to death.

Do not believe me? Look it up.

Oh and living off of energy bars is very bad for you. The were meant for highly active athletic people, not a main diet!

[Apadizamek]

one word mate, Intelligence.

Of course their are health stuff, but hell these are stupid animals we DESERVE to eat them and frankly meat can be incredibly good for you IF you mix it with veggies which WE USUALLY DO.

Were we not stupid creatures back in old times? What if we let the animals evolve whay If they became smarter than us What if they develop an intelegeince? Just cause we can not understand them fully at this point in time, who says they are not inteligent HMM???

even if they are we eat the or their eaten much worsely by another creature.

Also your stats are flawedc and simply used to make fearful. oil RESERVES are NOTHING compare to the oil we mine and use every year.

Percentage of all raw materials consumed by the U.S. needed to produce a complete vegetarian diet: 2
i assume thats for one person

and your fact about the kosher...check this out if we just "let them go"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4CO3dngqO7Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xxzCc3DCz-g

the real world is tough

[Silver Neccho]

one word mate, Intelligence.

Of course their are health stuff, but hell these are stupid animals we DESERVE to eat them and frankly meat can be incredibly good for you IF you mix it with veggies which WE USUALLY DO.

Were we not stupid creatures back in old times? What if we let the animals evolve whay If they became smarter than us What if they develop an intelegeince? Just cause we can not understand them fully at this point in time, who says they are not inteligent HMM???

even if they are we eat the or their eaten much worsely by another creature.

Also your stats are flawedc and simply used to make fearful. oil RESERVES are NOTHING compare to the oil we mine and use every year.

Percentage of all raw materials consumed by the U.S. needed to produce a complete vegetarian diet: 2
i assume thats for one person

First off, the 3 percent refers to ALL RAW MATERIALS YOU NITWIT!

OIL RESERVES REFER TO OIL IN THE GROUND!

Any oil on this earth is considered a reserve!

EDIT: The predators that do eat meat, almost always must eat meat. Carnivores cannot survive off of vegetables, and they eat much less other animals than we as a whole do. If we keep killing animals, soon even they will starve without any alternative!

Umm your youtube videos prove nothing! If I want meat, do I go munch on some poor animal while it is still alive? NO WE ARE THE ONLY SPECIES THAT DOES NOT SALIVATE UPON SEEING RAW MEAT! We must cook the stuff first, how natural!

[Silver Neccho]

Next time you see a shark roasting human flesh to make it more appetizing, I just might agree with you.

EDIT: We do salivate upon seeing things like raw vegetable and fruit!

[Apadizamek]

one word mate, Intelligence.

Of course their are health stuff, but hell these are stupid animals we DESERVE to eat them and frankly meat can be incredibly good for you IF you mix it with veggies which WE USUALLY DO.

Were we not stupid creatures back in old times? What if we let the animals evolve whay If they became smarter than us What if they develop an intelegeince? Just cause we can not understand them fully at this point in time, who says they are not inteligent HMM???

even if they are we eat the or their eaten much worsely by another creature.

Also your stats are flawedc and simply used to make fearful. oil RESERVES are NOTHING compare to the oil we mine and use every year.

Percentage of all raw materials consumed by the U.S. needed to produce a complete vegetarian diet: 2
i assume thats for one person

First off, the 3 percent refers to ALL RAW MATERIALS YOU NITWIT!

OIL RESERVES REFER TO OIL IN THE GROUND!


Any oil on this earth is considered a reserve!

EDIT: The predators that do eat meat, almost always must eat meat. Carnivores cannot survive off of vegetables, and they eat much less other animals than we as a whole do. If we keep killing animals, soon even they will starve without any alternative!

Umm your youtube videos prove nothing! If I want meat, do I go munch on some poor animal while it is still alive? NO WE ARE THE ONLY SPECIES THAT DOES NOT SALIVATE UPON SEEING RAW MEAT! We must cook the stuff first, how natural!

the point is they die better! i'd much rather **Filtered** have my throat slit and die in two minutes or less then be eaten the **Filtered** alive. and you said it yourself we produce so much meat with our forced breeding we have plenty

also your oil reserves is crap well over 70-90% of the human race eats meat, and our oil is FAR FAR FAR from gone

[Silver Neccho]

People choose vegetarian diets for a variety of reasons. Many choose them to improve their health or to decrease the risk of chronic diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes, or cancer. Others go vegetarian due to concerns about world hunger and the environment, because large-scale production of animal foods uses land that could otherwise be used to grow plant-based foods, and is a major cause of deforestation and soil erosion worldwide. Still others are concerned about the presence of antibiotics, hormones, pesticide residues or disease-causing agents (as with mad cow disease) that may be present in meat. Some vegetarians object to inhumane practices of modern-day animal farming, so their reasons for being vegetarian are largely ethical. Some vegetarians believe that humans are not physiologically suited to meat eating; humans have more in common with herbivorous animals than with carnivorous animals in terms of the structure and function of the digestive tract. Finally, some people choose vegetarianism in an attempt to live more simply and economically, and in closer harmony with the way most of the world’s population eats.


Umm... just because we can produce more meat does not mean we need to eat more meat.

AND HOW FUNNY, THAT WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD SAYS THE OIL IS ALMOST DEPLETED, SOME WILL CHANGE THEIR OWN WORDS AND CONTRADICT THAT FACT!

WE DO NOT HAVE AS MUCH OIL AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRETEND WE HAVE.