UP planets!!

Locked
User avatar
Tivadar
Forum Regular
Posts: 724
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:02 am
Alliance: [TCOA]Equinox
Race: Altíri
ID: 0
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Contact:

~Zekk~ wrote:
ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.


the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~


aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...
User avatar
~Zekk~
Forum Addict
Posts: 3787
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am
Alliance: Universal Consciousness
Race: Magi
ID: 616
Location: The Temple

MEZZANINE wrote:This upgrade sucks.

Many players ascending or planning to ascend get completely screwed by this upgrade, they don't want to waste Naq on RAW UP because they'll lose it ascending. Big fully ascended players can invest in RAW UP and wont be effected anywhere near as much.

This will seriously stunt the growth of smaller accounts while the big accounts keep growing.

Good intentions I'm sure, but the upgrade needs removing, stamping up and down on, shredding, setting fire to and burying in an unmarked grave.


raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.

and yes Achaiah i agree, the whining over this is quite pointless...if anything, the extra raw will make peoples UP bigger...


~Zekk~
Image
Image--by Miko Miko, for KonataChan, of animesuke. *borrows without permission, but with credits* ~_^

Anyone Play Go?
Omoc wrote:
S*rew the equality!

I LOVE WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND DOMINATES ME! :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
WeaponX
Forum Intermediate
Posts: 798
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:16 pm

MEZZANINE wrote:This upgrade sucks.

Many players ascending or planning to ascend get completely screwed by this upgrade, they don't want to waste Naq on RAW UP because they'll lose it ascending. Big fully ascended players can invest in RAW UP and wont be effected anywhere near as much.

This will seriously stunt the growth of smaller accounts while the big accounts keep growing.

Good intentions I'm sure, but the upgrade needs removing, stamping up and down on, shredding, setting fire to and burying in an unmarked grave.


as a person who built his account from the ground up and busted his butt to do so i know that ANYONE can get to where they want to be in this game if they want to and put the work in to get there. if you are unwilling to do the work blame yourself. i had to raise my raw UP and yes it will make my ascension much more expensive but i can still afford it. a good player will deal with whatever given to him and overcome it somehow. when the situation changes, you changes your tactics. static playing leads to stagnant accounts. dynamic tactics and constantly finding work arounds to obstacles thrown in your path are what makes a small player into a big player.

noone said it would be easy, and i think it will make it a little bit harder but i think anyone worth their salt can overcome this.

i'm a UP planet proponent BTW and i dont like the update but i can work around it, it will not slow me down.
User avatar
MEZZANINE
Forum Addict
Posts: 4453
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:39 am
Alliance: Forgotten Serenity
Race: System Lord
ID: 81691
Location: CARDIFF

raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.


If you don't ascend and you have to fight someone who is ascended, your losses are horrible, even if you win, thats why most players want to ascend. The ascended server is a pale shadow of the main server.

Just for the record I'm not sounding off just on my own behalf, I've almost finished ascending and already have a decent ascended account so this upgrade wont affect me for long, I'm thinking of the poor players who are just starting to ascend and how this will hold them back.
Image

Image

Image
Spoiler
Attack Mercs Killed (30) 459,329,001
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 2,918,478,517
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 12,677,958
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 226,236,488
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 490,627,262
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 4,131,482,551
Spies Killed(50) 4,256,505,842
Spy Killers Killed(50) 651,022,448
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 35,583,034
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 39,498,511
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 2,413,254
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 358,539
Planets Taken(5000) 411
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 2,355,738,435,154,805
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 5,943,886,456
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 74,293,522,376,607
Attack Turns Used(1) 1,731,971
User avatar
Tivadar
Forum Regular
Posts: 724
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:02 am
Alliance: [TCOA]Equinox
Race: Altíri
ID: 0
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Contact:

i haven´t ascended at all, nor do i have a big army, but the update didn´t affected me at all :D
User avatar
~Zekk~
Forum Addict
Posts: 3787
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am
Alliance: Universal Consciousness
Race: Magi
ID: 616
Location: The Temple

MEZZANINE wrote:
raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.


If you don't ascend and you have to fight someone who is ascended, your losses are horrible, even if you win, thats why most players want to ascend. The ascended server is a pale shadow of the main server.

Just for the record I'm not sounding off just on my own behalf, I've almost finished ascending and already have a decent ascended account so this upgrade wont affect me for long, I'm thinking of the poor players who are just starting to ascend and how this will hold them back.


being strong isn't cheap, you have to work you butt off for it and if people arent willing to make sacrifices to become stronger then they dont deserve to wield the strength that they envy so much.

all this update does is change afew gameplay styles. and as i said elsewhere some people could even take advantage of it.



~Zekk~
Image
Image--by Miko Miko, for KonataChan, of animesuke. *borrows without permission, but with credits* ~_^

Anyone Play Go?
Omoc wrote:
S*rew the equality!

I LOVE WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND DOMINATES ME! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sadistic Angel
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 8:34 am
ID: 0
Location: England

Achaiah wrote:
~Zekk~ wrote:
ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.


the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~


aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...


thats a total lie, i have 4 6k up planets and my basic up is 8k but i still lost over 10k a a day
Last edited by Sadistic Angel on Wed May 23, 2007 10:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
.................Image.................

Image
User avatar
Tivadar
Forum Regular
Posts: 724
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:02 am
Alliance: [TCOA]Equinox
Race: Altíri
ID: 0
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Contact:

then you shouldn´t have lost any number of Up ... strange ... means it is really just the 50% rule ...
User avatar
~Zekk~
Forum Addict
Posts: 3787
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am
Alliance: Universal Consciousness
Race: Magi
ID: 616
Location: The Temple

scor wrote:
Achaiah wrote:
~Zekk~ wrote:
ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.


the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~


aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...


thats a total lie, i have 4 6k up planets and my basic up is 8k but i still lost over 10k a ady


well by what the updates say you shouldnt have. try emailing admin about it and see if its a bug.



~Zekk~
Image
Image--by Miko Miko, for KonataChan, of animesuke. *borrows without permission, but with credits* ~_^

Anyone Play Go?
Omoc wrote:
S*rew the equality!

I LOVE WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND DOMINATES ME! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brdavs
Forum Elder
Posts: 2114
Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:15 pm
Alliance: The Legion
ID: 69113
Location: Trading jibes with tot gotts.

Great idea and long overdue imo.
Besides, building up your raw up to the level you need is just as expensive as building up one extra up planet, maybe a bit more... It does annoy guys still ascending with min. UP but you`ll have stronger ascended accounts on account of this heh :P
Sadistic Angel
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 8:34 am
ID: 0
Location: England

ok cool, whats his address?
.................Image.................

Image
User avatar
~Zekk~
Forum Addict
Posts: 3787
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am
Alliance: Universal Consciousness
Race: Magi
ID: 616
Location: The Temple

scor wrote:ok cool, whats his address?


look on the bottom any page ingame and you'll find multiple ways to contact the GM's and admins.

or, i think someone said he's going to be in the sgw chat again in 3 hours.



~ZekK~
Image
Image--by Miko Miko, for KonataChan, of animesuke. *borrows without permission, but with credits* ~_^

Anyone Play Go?
Omoc wrote:
S*rew the equality!

I LOVE WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND DOMINATES ME! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nostradamus
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:05 am
Alliance: Dirty Dozen
Race: NanoTiMaster

Before you complain about this do some math people :

20k raw UP = 333 bil naq
10k huge UP planet = 139 bil naq

you can add at least 100 bil for a decent defense on that planet

Any sane player would work to get at least 4-5 UP planets at 10k level before starting to upgrade that.

So ..... if you had a minimum of 1 tril to get a minimum of 4 good UP planets and you haven't invested 30% of that into raw UP ..... you clearly aren't made for this game.


If you do this for smaller players :

10k raw UP = 83 bil
5k large UP planet = 47 bil

the extra defense will bring you at least at the same level with a 10k UP, which can't be attacked and is 2 times bigger for the same ammount of naq invested.

So unless you can come with some REAL arguments STHU.
Image
Sadistic Angel
Fledgling Forumer
Posts: 166
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 8:34 am
ID: 0
Location: England

ok i'll wait
but a chat, there will be thousands trying to talk to him
i wonder if he will change my forum name to Sadistic Angel, the first time i registard i put in the wrong email address.
.................Image.................

Image
User avatar
~Zekk~
Forum Addict
Posts: 3787
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am
Alliance: Universal Consciousness
Race: Magi
ID: 616
Location: The Temple

scor wrote:ok i'll wait
but a chat, there will be thousands trying to talk to him
i wonder if he will change my forum name to Sadistic Angel, the first time i registard i put in the wrong email address.


its usually only afew dozen i think.

not everyone knows about the admin chats and on top of that, that many people wouldnt care OR wouldnt be able to make it. so i doubt there'll be thousands in it.



~Zekk~
Image
Image--by Miko Miko, for KonataChan, of animesuke. *borrows without permission, but with credits* ~_^

Anyone Play Go?
Omoc wrote:
S*rew the equality!

I LOVE WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND DOMINATES ME! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Locked

Return to “For Admin Archives”