Ascended races new idea - makes each race specifical

Make any ascended race specific is a good idea?

Yes - Your idea rocks!
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41%
Yes - Your idea is good but percents are not like I want
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Yes - Your idea in general is good, but I'll POST my suggestion who I believe is better
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5%
No - I like current boring races, stat build stat build nothing else keep game like that!!!!!!!
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Hensenshi wrote:If you want to make race mean something again, make ascended race mean something, and make your ascended race choice have an impact on your account in both main and ascension. Something like this:

Each ascension you get 2% to all stats per ascension. This means at 6 ascension you've got a 12% all around bonus. But each race has it's bonuses, but make them obscure.

Tolah get cheaper supers in both attack and defense. In ascended they receive a 5% discount to strike and def modifiers.

Indu make less lifers when training miners up(small like only 1% decrease). In ascended they get a 5% discount to production.

Ajna get cheaper miners(500 or something like that). In ascended they get cheaper systems.

Ori get cheaper spies and AC units. In ascension their covert and assassin modifiers are cheaper.

Then after that, each advanced race(talking main again), receive 10% to the stat that their race origins. (IE: nano's get 10% to covert, SL's get 10% to income, ancients get 10% to def, and Tollan get 10% to strike).

I like it.
Finally we got an improved suggestion 8) and not nononono i hate it ahhhh my poor account nononono :P .

Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:
Apophis ™ wrote:
Turkey wrote:I dont get why Tokra would get such less % bonuses?
Because:
-They not even here and would probly never get ingame
-They had no attacks, no MS by themselves, only covert and def capacities...well could probably add 5% MS then

Do you want me to slap you over? If you make a suggestion, make it balanced... If Tok'ra would be here, they deserve the same balanced bonus stats as others do... and don't try to make me mad with your anti-Tok'ra policy, that belongs to RP forums, not when making a suggestion. Seriously, get over yourself, kiddo.



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Tok'ra don't even exist as a race ingame as goaulds or tauri. So as I'm PRETTY sure admin said already he will not add races, I could say 0% bonus on all tokra stats or 35% coverts 30% defense 15% attack it will not matter as I know admin will not add tokra, jaffas, sodans or any idea like that.
I could modify stats and make them balanced, but that will matter little considering admin doesn't want new races, he said it already I think.

Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:
Apophis ™ wrote:
Turkey wrote:I dont get why Tokra would get such less % bonuses?
Because:
-They not even here and would probly never get ingame
-They had no attacks, no MS by themselves, only covert and def capacities...well could probably add 5% MS then

Do you want me to slap you over? If you make a suggestion, make it balanced... If Tok'ra would be here, they deserve the same balanced bonus stats as others do... and don't try to make me mad with your anti-Tok'ra policy, that belongs to RP forums, not when making a suggestion. Seriously, get over yourself, kiddo.



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Tok'ra don't even exist as a race ingame as goaulds or tauri. So as I'm PRETTY sure admin said already he will not add races, I could say 0% bonus on all tokra stats or 35% coverts 30% defense 15% attack it will not matter as I know admin will not add tokra, jaffas, sodans or any idea like that.
I could modify stats and make them balanced, but that will matter little considering admin doesn't want new races, he said it already I think.

Epic wrote:I don't like this idea, I worked hard to get my LG+1 and its 30% all around bonuses, unlike some people my account isn't yet at the point where if I want to build a 100b strike then the extra naq and uu required without bonuses is nothing to me, thus it would only help the bigger - and what is supposed to come out of it? A meaning to having a race, more RP? That just ain't going to happen.
SGW may not have SGW-esque RP in it, but it certainly contains alot of roleplaying, just look at whats has happened in the game recenly, HUGE war, both sides gaining support, is this not a role-playing element, the very fact that we are even organised into alliances can be considered as 'role-playing' can it not?
As for making the races different by option of bonuses, I really don't think that would make any differences, except push people away from the race that they like being (part of this is due to role playing), I am an ancient as the asgard's and ancient were my favorite race from the stargate series, the bonuses you proposed suck for ancients and having to go back to have an uneven strike/defense would probably make me switch to a more balanced race just for the sake of my account whereas i'd prefer to be seen as an Ancient.
I'm all for listening to new idea's but this would change the game alot and most likely spoil it, I prefer additions to gameplay rather than tinkering with with the core elements that keep this game what it is.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

If we put race stats bigger that would make huge difference between ascended and unascended.
I can edit my %.
But I believe Hensenshi get it better with his idea.

Ancients unbalanced here? Normal. Tauri/tollan meant to have good strike and Asgards Ancients to have good def. That has been always like that!
I could balance them, but that will end eventually as crappy current system we in...so...not balance them too much!
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You say that from the point of view of a goa'uld. As an asgard I didn't enjoy building big strike because it was so expensive compared to everything else.

@ Zeratul: How can being in an alliance NOT be RP? We aren't in them in real life and what do we do in them? We play roles, we have the leaders, stike teams, etc, so really we are all role playing, just because we don't all want to make up a load of crap and a storyline to go with our actions doesn't mean the game should be changed. RP as you must mean it can only exist on the forums, so changing the game to try and involve would be an unwelcome change for the non-forum users and also the people who just don't like the idea, like myself.
Also, as I said earlier, I don't want to have to change from being an ancient just because of bonuses. The race specific bonuses are decent enough when you are starting of as they provide you with a good base and a speciality but thats about all its good for.

If anything is going to be done regarding mixing up ascended races so they make of a difference it should be done on ascended server.
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Well, Apophis, I don't like your suggestion, mainly because it's inbalanced and biased towards Tok'ra (which we know you don't like... :P) If you actually think it over and make it balanced for every suggested race, that may be different story... and don't come back with some crap like 'tok'ra are not even here' - that's why we have this suggestion, to bring something new, right?



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-They not even here and would probly never get ingame

Given that they were in this game before the replicators... :roll:
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The Xeno wrote:Given that they were in this game before the replicators... :roll:

Of course... Tok'ra should get covert bonus, because that's what they were doing... changing them for Lego, who have covert bonus is pretty much silly. Legos should have other bonus, as they are replicating, not coverting...



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Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:
The Xeno wrote:Given that they were in this game before the replicators... :roll:

Of course... Tok'ra should get covert bonus, because that's what they were doing... changing them for Lego, who have covert bonus is pretty much silly. Legos should have other bonus, as they are replicating, not coverting...



Teal'auc

They are harder to see when they spy considering their small size and abiltiy to remain hidden

Well Tok'ra received covert bonus and defence as well as others. Tokra bad in attack, know defending themselves, know spying...
Oh well because it's you I'll change percents again but well i'll not make tokra the super race, just as much powerful in its pros like tollans are in their.

Epic, RP in an alliance? Unnatural Selection, SLA, OSL, Asgard Order Elite and such alliances did and do roleplay...BUT any totally mixed up alliances doesn't roleplay, sorry. Plus you don't like this idea, but try to find any suggestion everyone agreed! Raids, planets, MS, purgatory, lifers, super soldiers, all had against arguments that were AS MUCH strong as yours, they were right and defended opposed opinions, but it came and now we all happy about them. Why this oone would be different?


In votes I see we have 2 new representants of "nonononono change nothing ahhhhhhhhhhh nonononono keep boring game ahhhhhh statbuildstatbuild ahhhhhhhhhhhh zomg!1!1!1!!!!!"
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I agree with Apophis. Alliances in the Stargate universe WOULD NEVER have Replicators and Asgard, Tauri and Goauld in the same alliance. Possibly limited alliances at critical times but never full fledged alliances.
@ Apophis.
What you are saying for ascended people to get bonuses are basically higher Technology?
Say where a Goauld would get 75% in upgrades a Prior System lord would get 100% upgrades and a Prophet System lord would get 125% upgrades? But everything being 2X as expensive each time?
Example.
A goaulds 75% upgrade would cost 1 Bill
A Priors 75% upgrade would cost 2 Bill.
Then his ascension Bonus 100% upgrade would cost 4 Bill?
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Lord_Grant wrote:I agree with Apophis. Alliances in the Stargate universe WOULD NEVER have Replicators and Asgard, Tauri and Goauld in the same alliance. Possibly limited alliances at critical times but never full fledged alliances.
@ Apophis.
What you are saying for ascended people to get bonuses are basically higher Technology?
Say where a Goauld would get 75% in upgrades a Prior System lord would get 100% upgrades and a Prophet System lord would get 125% upgrades? But everything being 2X as expensive each time?
Example.
A goaulds 75% upgrade would cost 1 Bill
A Priors 75% upgrade would cost 2 Bill.
Then his ascension Bonus 100% upgrade would cost 4 Bill?

You got it Grant! :)
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Ah i get it now. A Ancient would get a higher Technology for Defence wheras a Tollan would get a higher Attack Tech.
I like it.
ASSUMING.... That ascended folks keep thier 5600 Power weps :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
If not no deal ;)
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P.S> What the????? 41% saying keep it teh way it is?
P.P.S. Ooooh yeah. The ones who got it good the way it is.
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Lord_Grant wrote:Ah i get it now. A Ancient would get a higher Technology for Defence wheras a Tollan would get a higher Attack Tech.
I like it.
ASSUMING.... That ascended folks keep thier 5600 Power weps :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
If not no deal ;)

Weapons will keep same powers :D
5760 for best weapons and fleets 57600 8)

Lord_Grant wrote:P.S> What the????? 41% saying keep it teh way it is?
P.P.S. Ooooh yeah. The ones who got it good the way it is.

Yeah that's strange but people prefer a boring game than loosing their dear bonuses that would reappear in another form anyway :roll:
I hope this will win...anyway all yes options are a positive and included in yes, so the yes wins for now :D
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This has not to fall in the forgotten places , bump!
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Heres an idea if any one likes it, will need some work. How about a race thats just called ascended. That way if players don't want to have a certain bonus they can have an evenly distributed stats bonus. Any ideas for percentages?
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Re: Ascended races new idea - makes each race specifical

nah that's too likely like my ironical answer to those whining about their beloved dearest cutie bonuses :lol:
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Re: Ascended races new idea - makes each race specifical

Can a mod sticky this?
That is enough good suggest to be sticked 8)
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