Definition for Alliance Farming

[Hansbrough]

I think it's time we set down some ground rules for excessive hitting for naq within one alliance. If you're good enough to track only hitting someone 2 times, but not a 3rd within 5 days, then this should be easy for you

People are getting pissed that alliances are ganging up on them because they "aren't farming" anyone within the alliance. However, you people sure ass hell are focusing your hits within a given alliance. I can only assume you're trying to make a war break out by doing this.

One definition I've seen, put forth by rek for his alliance is that there can be no more than 3 attacks by any one person on his collective alliance within a week's time. While this may be a bit slim pickings it is a definition of alliance farming within his alliance.

The reason for this post is that I'd like the community to sound off on what they feel alliance farming is by their own alliance definitions. Perhaps in the end, we can lay some ground-rules for this so that people aren't taken by total surprise when a whole alliance gangs up on any one person.

[Rienna]

the problem with setting out a definition for this is that the smaller the alliance is, the more noticable the hittings are.

I know when I lead the source, we were 8 people, and as soon as one person hit 2 of us, we all knew about it. Whereas, in an alliance with 20 or 40 members, hitting 2 would mostly go unnoticed.

[Rienna]

okay, sorry for the double post, but it has come to my attention that my previous post looks like I was unhappy with wanting an alliance farming definition.

This is not true - I'm merely saying that perhaps when setting down the definition, we should take alliance size into the definition.

AKA: instead of saying "once you've hit 3 of our members you're farming out alliance" say a percentage. That way it covers both the small alliances and big ones.

So, say "once you've hit 10% of our members" you're farming the alliance.

[Merc1]

hi everyone

i would like to add my definition of farming

i will hit anyone for 100 billion naq out

i will only hit 3 times in a two week period on any one player
(unless massed)
in which case you can expect it all comming back

it does not allow for ascended blessing if your ascended blessing kicks in
i will continue to hit until i have secured the naq

i declare war only as i am trying to get all your naq and reduce my losses

also let me say this is not directed at any single aliance it is across the board

on the same hand i do expect to get hit if i have loads out

i will not mass anyone for a good attack on me for naq

unless my rule of farming is broken by the said player

thank you all for your time

MERC1

[Hansbrough]

hmm?

this is talking about alliance farming (multiple naq hits on members within one alliance in a given amount of time), not farming individuals.

[Robe]

Alliance Naq attack limits will lead to:

Members not learning to stand on their own two feet
(becoming over reliant on their team mates to bail them out).

Difficulty in monitoring hits (Alliances will only be aware hits to their members. They will not know what hits their own members have made on other Alliances).

Rapid escalation to war (especially when their own members breach the same criteria in other Alliances).

Should stick with individual hits - much easier to monitor.



Foundation of Evil (FoE) Reasonable Force Conflict Management.

If someone farms you (3 hits in one week) farm them back.

If someone takes your planets, take theirs.

If someone masses you (either server), mass them back (either server).

Keep all conflicts one vs one (between you and aggressor).

Do not farm active accounts (3 hits in one week).

[SVaRuN]

Well said and ditto

[Hells__Angel]

3 attacks a week max.

[REK]

LoL

doesnt sound like a very evil alliance but meh to each its own

once you go over the lmit you go on a list

once your name appears on that list an exsseive amount of times action will be taken

one

every hit we do we expect retaliation

you should too

plain and simple

we play our way which is highly downed from our previous no hit policy
and a member of FoE convinced me of that ..but not you robe ...sorry

Ive done my good will my members are told every person they decide to hit for naq can result in war

if you want to play like a solo player go lone wolf

if you want family join a true alliance

either way

to each his own

[Bad Wolf]

I think it's time we set down some ground rules for excessive hitting for naq within one alliance.

Shouldnt you talk about YOUR alliances rules on the Omega forums instead of talking about how everyone else has to play by your rules ?

Dont mean to flame you mate, but I does seem to me you are trying to 'Make the rules'.

BWG

[Hansbrough]

ground rule here are just to set forth a guideline so people aren't surprised when a while alliance comes after them because the whole alliance is being targeted by farmers. It'll also cut down on the complaining that people do when they attempt to say they were massed without just cause.

You see, if Omega breaks the rules, and one of your alliances comes after an individual or the whole alliance, that's fair game b/c we'll be in the understanding that over-hitting of any one alliance is occurring.

i mean somehow, after all, you all have come up with some random definition of what farming is. Hell I remember the day when the definition was hitting someone more than 3 times within a day, and now it's morphed into 3 times within 5 days.

[Lord Rylan]

If alliances could actually agree to what defines farming, then setting up established rules of conduct/engagement would work. However I seriously doubt that enough alliances would be willing to agree to rules. I personally would like to see something set up, like a % of members, and would be willing to negotiate with my fellow alliance leaders.

Currently OSL operates thus towards farming:

If YOU leave a large sum of naq out, expect for it to be taken (or attempted)

If WE leave a large sum out, we expect it to be taken (or attempted)

Same rule applies to UU and planets.

If you mass a member of OSL, it is considered an automatic declaration of war, unless you can show that you were massed first.

[Pele]

I like the idea of a universal definition of what is worthy of being massed and what is simple hitting for naq. I like the idea of a %age of an alliance.

[Envy]

I agee with Taxo on this one ,

anyway I do think it's "lame" that hole an allaince has to target the "farmer"

Also theirs a big diffrence between NAQ hits and farming ... like if u leave every day 100 bill and the person steals every day the 100 bill does that make him a farmer cus u leave ur naq in the open ?

Also I agree with REK every allaince does whats best for their members but u can be reasonable aswell if u chose those way's not by sitting on a person with an entire allaince ... Those that are farmed can deal with it tho.

Anyway i don't see this as a rule , thougt I don't even care what for rules others make ... cus I simple am not in their rules .

[Dundee]

I would say 2/3 times per day is more like excessive farming, 2/3 times per week is extremely limiting.

2/3 times per day is obvious that your being targeted as opposed to 2/3 times per week which could jus be random naq hits coz you left too much naq out.