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Yeah Russia holds Europe by the balls with oil and gas. I do not see any changes as long as Europe is addicted to Russian resources.

Estonian 911(112) line was busy at the first riot night because there were to many 911 calls. And there were attack on the government home page and news portals.

Manhood Of The Tok'ra i do not agree your opinion as a estonian and as a person who believe in human rights.
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Hoepfully with france and britain building a host of new nuclear power stations that the need for oil will go down alittle.
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Tal_Rasha wrote:
Our only hope is to build up a military force strong enough to protect European countries without USA and without Russian oil and gas, become more independent and more confident...


that'd be good, but when i see how they are trying to do this i'll tell you: it'll never happen. too much politics, red tape, socialism, political correctness and money wasting in EU.
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Fallout83 wrote:your all offtopic, topic is about Estonia not Europe:P
im from Estonia and the only thing to say is Russia sucks.

There is much, much more i could write here about this but my comp(inc. keyboard) is on the floor and its kinda hard.


Not everyone were out of topic here :P

But I have to agree with Fallout83 and Keemik that things are not looking very good in our perspective. Russian schools here teach different history than their Estonian counterparts, the books are from 70's so that should explain a little.

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PS: It's past 2 am and some punks upstairs were partying and not letting me sleep. Damn stundents and their holidays.
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Kalkin wrote:
Fallout83 wrote:your all offtopic, topic is about Estonia not Europe:P
im from Estonia and the only thing to say is Russia sucks.

There is much, much more i could write here about this but my comp(inc. keyboard) is on the floor and its kinda hard.


Not everyone were out of topic here :P

But I have to agree with Fallout83 and Keemik that things are not looking very good in our perspective. Russian schools here teach different history than their Estonian counterparts, the books are from 70's so that should explain a little.


and you say I crawled out of a hole? The russian teaching system has a problem in some parts yes, but i HIGHLY doubt that the books are from the 70's.

That article is the only online one i could find, my article in the Economist said that their emergency line was out for over an hour.

Human rights are good, and frankly russia is out of control but they are the dominant force of Eastern Europe. I mean cmon they took out banks and pages, the home page of the government was taken out and estonia is an EU nation and they could only send a observer. All i have to sa Estonia's leader better watch his soup intake.
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To the comment that the U.S. Missle defense system is aimed at Russia...which ever fool posted it I say. Its a defense system. It was made to knock ballistic missles out of the sky. Russia is a borderline Dictatorship. Putin is trying to restore power to kremlin and is the direct result of straining relationships. Russia doesn't want to give up its super power status. It won't grasp tthe fact that it fell from grace long ago. The U.S. Doesn't need missle bases in other nations to take out a country. We have nuclear submarines, Aircraft Carriers, destroyers, and multiple other platforms that can deliver nuclear and cruise missles world wide. We also have inter continental ballistic missles. We could hit the broad side of a barn in Antartica if we damned well wanted to.

Second thing. Dissillusions about France? The Public is not dissillusioned. Fracne didn't support us and there is evidence that certain officials in Iraq. The War was a success there btw, the clean-up was is a disaster. I have no respect for the French government. Its changed forms more times in the last couple centuries then John Kerry has in his senatorial office. Another Side note. Anyone that has full faith in the U.N. is obviously a dreamer.

Last note. Europe is lost. The Berbers have re-infested regions which thousands died to "cleanse" hundreds of years ago. Your facing another Ottoman Empire. This time it won't be the Sick man of Europe. Blaming the U.S. for all your problems is a load of Bull and I'm sick of it. If it wasn't for us most of you wimps would be speaking German and kissing Nazi Boots.

And in true stargate form I leave you with this "seek not the wickedness amongst your neighbors, lest it find purchase in your own house." We are not some evil empire, and this is not the grand arena. If the U.S. is to blame for the worlds problems then why to we attempt to defend, and feed most of it? The U.S. should jsut return to issolation and let the rest of the world burn. At least then people might value our precense. If they survived long enough to miss it.
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Lord Osiris wrote:Last note. Europe is lost. The Berbers have re-infested regions which thousands died to "cleanse" hundreds of years ago. Your facing another Ottoman Empire. This time it won't be the Sick man of Europe. Blaming the U.S. for all your problems is a load of Bull and I'm sick of it. If it wasn't for us most of you wimps would be speaking German and kissing Nazi Boots.

And in true stargate form I leave you with this "seek not the wickedness amongst your neighbors, lest it find purchase in your own house." We are not some evil empire, and this is not the grand arena. If the U.S. is to blame for the worlds problems then why to we attempt to defend, and feed most of it? The U.S. should jsut return to issolation and let the rest of the world burn. At least then people might value our precense. If they survived long enough to miss it.


I must say that they do owe the United States and the soviet union, by 1945 the soviet union and united states produced more then world combined. We could have destroyed Europe and everything else and end in the destruction of the world or the rulership of Soviet Union or the United States.

Russia only excists because of their ability to nuke. Estonia is small cookies, the EU and UN will never stand up to them, their just little bullies and we'll never stop them because Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine aren't really needed.
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I can't wait to see what propoganda is thrown in our faces next.

bets my dear appy?

I like Imperial Presidency headed by the Bush administration. That one is always amusing.
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Lord Osiris wrote:I can't wait to see what propoganda is thrown in our faces next.

bets my dear appy?

I like Imperial Presidency headed by the Bush administration. That one is always amusing.


i find the "EU or UN will step in" best.
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oh dear the UN one should have been obvious... oh well :roll:
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Lord Osiris wrote:oh dear the UN one should have been obvious... oh well :roll:

sometimes the most obvious are the greatest :lol:
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How many wars has the US won without its 'wimp' allies from Europe? just because France didn't join the fight doesn't mean they are any less of a great nation.

Easy to say you won the war when you waited until everyone else was smashed before joining. Plus that war was against the Axis, not all of Europe.
Europe is lost? ok :?

And I don't see many problems in Europe being blamed on america? can you tell me some.
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[quote="Emperor Martin"]How many wars has the US won without its 'wimp' allies from Europe? just because France didn't join the fight doesn't mean they are any less of a great nation.quote]

war of 1812
mexican american war
spanish american war

frankly europe is a whole continent america and russia are one country. The fact that both of them are a match for a continent should tell you something...
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Manhood Of The Tok'ra wrote:war of 1812
As a Canadian I do take offence to that. The US did not win the war of 1812.

"The Treaty of Ghent established the status quo ante bellum; that is, there were no territorial changes made by either side."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812#Consequences
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Ghent

Tone it down here.
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Manhood Of The Tok'ra wrote:war of 1812
As a Canadian I do take offence to that. The US did not win the war of 1812.

"The Treaty of Ghent established the status quo ante bellum; that is, there were no territorial changes made by either side."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812#Consequences
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Ghent

Tone it down here.


Why would you take offense? While the invasions of Canada were botched (and overly optimistic), Canadians were not the main enemy. England was.
My name is red because I'm one of the few Tok`ra. Your questions have now been answered.
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