Possibly the biggest planet...

[S T I]

When jake had 35k fleets & was hitting a 100bil planets twice the planet kept its defenc strenght & the fleets lost theirs, lossing the whole lot which i think came to about 400 bil loss each time, he did say this nearly happened on a number of other occasions. so he stopped attacking the bigger ones.

so what you are talking about is a higher risk & the losses would i think be massive, if you are saying about having a 33 bil strike to hit 300 bil, his was more % higher wise than what your saying.

I am only going by what he said happened.

That's odd. I've massed a 70 billion planet with almost exactly 1/5th fleet strength. Each hit was taking out 300-700 defense facilities and I was taking 800 million - 1.4 billion naq damage to fleets. I've never taken devastating damage to fleets unless I was outside of the 1/5 ratio of fleets to planet defense strength.

1/5th is 20%, SVaRuN is talking about hitting with 10% or just over.

1/5th is what i would use

[SVaRuN]

What RobinInDaHood tries to say is.

If you have 1 bils in fleet and attacking a 5 bils planet...and you hit with 1 bil...and he hits back with 5bils...it wont say devestating (maning he wont go under the 20%) meaning...while he was massing he never went under 20%...just like I never went under 10%...

[S T I]

What RobinInDaHood tries to say is.

If you have 1 bils in fleet and attacking a 5 bils planet...and you hit with 1 bil...and he hits back with 5bils...it wont say devestating (maning he wont go under the 20%) meaning...while he was massing he never went under 20%...just like I never went under 10%...

1 bil hitting 5 bil is 20% to start with

starting with 10% like you said, i say you have a very high chance of going under the 10% even with only a 10% swing on strike this would bring your 33 bil strike down to 29.7 & if the 300 bil defnce hpld is strenght you lose all.

& what Robinindahood did say was

quote (I've never taken devastating damage to fleets unless I was outside of the 1/5 ratio of fleets to planet defense strength.) which like i said is 20%

like i said in another post above, the differance between 10% & 30% which is possible is massive. so starting with 10% fleet stenght to defence is very risky.

or am i missing something here

[BL1P]

are you saying theres a 10-30% swing on the strike and the defence in both directions ?

for example could strike be 30% weaker ?
and defence 30% stronger ?

[SVaRuN]

Idk Jeff, when I have time I ll go and mass 10 different planets...with a bit over 10% of their defence..I ll let you know results....

[S T I]

are you saying theres a 10-30% swing on the strike and the defence in both directions ?

for example could strike be 30% weaker ?
and defence 30% stronger ?

no the max dosn't go up, but either can vary between max & 30%

ie Defance 300bil down to a possible 210 bil

ie strke 30 bil down to 21bil

so you can see the massive amount of combinations.


SVARUN,

yes i would be interested, but don't do me try something lower so you don't lose very much.(just in case)

I am only going on what happened to jake & he did mass alot of big planets, so thats how he got his info.

i think 20% is about the safe margin, but like i said let me know,

jeff,

[REK]

you people all have no lives...LoL

Happy fathers day to those who are celebrating it

[BL1P]

@ rek Thx

[BL1P]

are you saying theres a 10-30% swing on the strike and the defence in both directions ?

for example could strike be 30% weaker ?
and defence 30% stronger ?

no the max dosn't go up, but either can vary between max & 30%

ie Defance 300bil down to a possible 210 bil

ie strke 30 bil down to 21bil

so you can see the massive amount of combinations.


SVARUN,

yes i would be interested, but don't do me try something lower so you don't lose very much.(just in case)

I am only going on what happened to jake & he did mass alot of big planets, so thats how he got his info.

i think 20% is about the safe margin, but like i said let me know,

jeff,

good info too have thx !

[Boober]

Yes, in fact, it does lose a bit of it's bonus after you take the planet. Depending on how much damage was done by your fleets depends upon the amount of the damage to the productions. If it's a massively defended planet and it takes more damage by your fleets the more production it loses. I read that in the rules somewhere or another.

And actually, it loses it's production starting with the next round. Whenever the next round change is you can see how much it lost.

[SVaRuN]

As far as I know 25% bouns...gone...
It is the reason we never bothered with defences in CIA COP war. The more "exchanges" we had the more worthles the planet became...

[Liquidfoxx]

Bet the guy did a little sex wee when he found that

[Joder]

Yes, it is an awesome planet, and I would wet myself if I found one like that, lol.

The person in question found the planet through a routine mothership exploration, and it came with all production and defense facilities fully operational. He hasn't put one naq into it, nor will he.
I have no idea why in the world someone would put that much into a planet and then abandon it, unless it was accidental (pushed the wrong button, lol).

It would be very expensive to try to steal, however, so I'd just let the guy keep it. Besides, you'd ruin the production on it having to put that many attacks into it and then it'd be worthless by the time you were actually able to take it Let the little guys have some fun, will ya? Don't take it just because you can.....

[Munchy]

Just an FYI, you don't destroy production facilities until you actually take the planet. While massing it you only destroy defense facilities. Still though, when taking it, about 1/4 or 1/5 of the production facilities are destroyed.

[Nigatsu_Aka]

Just an FYI, you don't destroy production facilities until you actually take the planet. While massing it you only destroy defense facilities. Still though, when taking it, about 1/4 or 1/5 of the production facilities are destroyed.

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