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Re: What would you consider bullying

Most people who claim to be "bullied" bring it on themselves and then lie to people about it to make themselves appear the victim.

For instance, Tiny yet Cheeky Boy A goes up to Large and Bulky Boy B and thinks its a good laugh to bait him with cheeky comments. He then gets hit. He then goes off and moans about getting bullied. Yet if he had just kept to himself and not tried to rile up the boy who was obviously bigger than him it would never had happened.

In schools (where most bullying is said to occur, though its said to occur in the workplace too) there is an unspoken heriarchy. Most of what people call bullying occurs as a result of the deliberate, or perhaps unknown, defiance of this unspoken heirarchy i.e. a person gets ideas "above their station". This only really occurs in younger years, 'cause as people get older this hierarchy tends to dissolve and people become more tolerant of people with different ideas. An example of this: in the lower years at school, believing in God is not "cool," yet as people get older more people confess to it (!) as the concern to look cool slowly gets dropped and people just be themselves, and other people learn to accept that.

Bullying is also a matter of perception.

Back in school I had a friend who was widely regarded the strongest guy in the year. You know the one I'm talking about - every yeargroup has one. Now, every so often (or perhaps, more often than not) we'd make a joke at his expense, and we'd get hit for it. We'd take it like it was - an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. We make a fun jibe at him verbally, he made a fun jibe at us in a more physical sense in return.

Now, occasionally someone from outside our group of friends would come along and think it a good idea to try to bait this guy. They would come along, insult him, just like the rest of us, and he'd get hit, just like the rest of us. Rinse and repeat every day for a while. Several weeks later, this guy is complaining of being bullied, for exactly the same things as we just put up with every day.

So as I say, bullying is a matter of perception. Some people can take the heat, others can't.

Edit:

A few other thoughts.

Bullying is a label created by pushy and over-protective parents who want their child to be given special treatment. Many children don't call what they recieve bullying until their parents do so.

The label of bullying is also created by an increasingly politically correct world obsessed with being nice and coddling people. For hundreds of years the education system has existed with what people now call bullying and has produced some of the greatest members of society: people such as Winston Churchill, Charles Darwin, William Wilberforce, to name a few.

They didn't seem to suffer from what could be called a very cruel education system, far crueler than even the worst cases of bullying today. It's only recently with the worlds obsession about being politically correct and avoiding offending people that the idea of bullying has emerged.

(Also have edited bits of my initial post).
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Re: What would you consider bullying

i was bullied in school and it has affected my personality more then anything i have become more shy and find it hard to talk to people openly cos if i said anything that could be miscued wen i was younger they would bully me for it so i learnt at a young age to just keep quiet but it still doesnt help

however everyone is different most of the cases that happened at my school went like this u got bullied u stood up for urself u then became the bully

could the second one be happening in SGW 2day
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Memento wrote:i was bullied in school and it has affected my personality more then anything i have become more shy and find it hard to talk to people openly cos if i said anything that could be miscued wen i was younger they would bully me for it so i learnt at a young age to just keep quiet but it still doesnt help

however everyone is different most of the cases that happened at my school went like this u got bullied u stood up for urself u then became the bully

could the second one be happening in SGW 2day


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Re: What would you consider bullying

Honestly, i think bully on SGW its quite rare.

You have to undestend, if you powerfull, and want crush every1, thats not bully, thats arogance.

Bully is when Some1 come to you For Non reason and say, GIVE me That or DO that otherwise you will be MASSED.

If some1 take a Planet and Say, take back and be destroyed, The planet already was takes, by the Game rules, He was playing the game propely. thats NOT Bully that WARNING. for the guy safety.

lets make a example, you put a bomb in a room, if some1 is about to enter and you say "don't go there", or you will be exploded, thats a warning.
Now if some1 say, "don't go there or i will place a bomb and explod you", that bullying.


i In SGW if you Hit a small player, you are a bully, to me, if a small player provoke a Big, he is stupid...
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PSICOLIX wrote:Honestly, i think bully on SGW its quite rare.

You have to undestend, if you powerfull, and want crush every1, thats not bully, thats arogance.

Bully is when Some1 come to you For Non reason and say, GIVE me That or DO that otherwise you will be MASSED.

If some1 take a Planet and Say, take back and be destroyed, The planet already was takes, by the Game rules, He was playing the game propely. thats NOT Bully that WARNING. for the guy safety.

lets make a example, you put a bomb in a room, if some1 is about to enter and you say "don't go there", or you will be exploded, thats a warning.
Now if some1 say, "don't go there or i will place a bomb and explod you", that bullying.


i In SGW if you Hit a small player, you are a bully, to me, if a small player
provoke a Big, he is stupid...


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PSICOLIX wrote:Honestly, i think bully on SGW its quite rare.

You have to undestend, if you powerfull, and want crush every1, thats not bully, thats arogance.

Bully is when Some1 come to you For Non reason and say, GIVE me That or DO that otherwise you will be MASSED.

If some1 take a Planet and Say, take back and be destroyed, The planet already was takes, by the Game rules, He was playing the game propely. thats NOT Bully that WARNING. for the guy safety.

lets make a example, you put a bomb in a room, if some1 is about to enter and you say "don't go there", or you will be exploded, thats a warning.
Now if some1 say, "don't go there or i will place a bomb and explod you", that bullying.


i In SGW if you Hit a small player, you are a bully, to me, if a small player provoke a Big, he is stupid...



yes m8 i see what you mean sort of
but like you say "in SGW" !
Im just thinking along the lines of why do we allow those kinds of attitudes of arrogance be allowed ingame when in life that arrogance would be called bullying.

for example you said -- "You have to understand, if your powerful, and want too crush every1, thats not bully, thats arrogance."--

if the biggest boy in school beats up anyone he wants for what ever reason he wants and wont stop.
that is classed as bullying and hes removed from the school and possibly sent too jail or a hospital for the mentaly ill.

but yes that is real life and this is only a game :P
many a bully has used the words "but sir i was only joking with him , when i put his balls in the wood work clamp"

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Re: What would you consider bullying

Thing is on SGW the aim is to get pwoerful soy uo can destroy you enemy, not just get stuck fighting tougher ones.


Bullying doesnt really exist herebecause theres something you can do about pretty much every problem be it PPT, purgatory, anything.
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~Phoenix~ wrote:Thing is on SGW the aim is to get pwoerful soy uo can destroy you enemy, not just get stuck fighting tougher ones.


Bullying doesnt really exist herebecause theres something you can do about pretty much every problem be it PPT, purgatory, anything.


yer you can combat the problem with ppt or purg or fighting back
but m8 by your own words if theres something too do about a problem then there is a problem to start of with.
by that fact alone bullying exists.
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Re: What would you consider bullying

omg buck your in omega? haha nice :-D
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Eros wrote:omg buck your in omega? haha nice :-D

LOL, on topic then :P

Bullying isnt a real problem, cos everyone can get friendly with a bigger fish. (just my personal opinion mind...)
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Re: What would you consider bullying

A bully wishes to intimidate because s/he is bigger.

Bully isn't a problem if you haven't experieneced it, not that it isn't a problem.
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Re: What would you consider bullying

I was bullied when I first started, but I made friends with Acronon who slapped him silly :-D

Then when I came back I was bullied again.Noone knew it was me, and I was pretty small for a while. So I outgrew them all and some appologized and/or begged for mercy, and/or regreted it :-D

So overall, considering i was bullied both times that I was unknown and small, im guessing its a big problem for the little people who don't do anything to dizerve it. If they dizerve it tho its a different story :-D
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Re: What would you consider bullying

I have to agree here. The term bully has been loosly applied to a curcomstance that someone doesn't like, this is relative and I believe more of a way to complain or justify why something happened. In reality is person x did exhibit a. Person y reacts with X. cause and effect.



On a side note, I truely believe that if someone is being bullied, they are allowing it to happen. Remove your self from the situation. I'm not saying it is ever fair to pick on someone, but the only one responsible for oneself and the things that happen is.. oneself.


A question to ponder. Why is it certin people are aka bullied more than others. I mean the ones that change their name and are agian aka bullied? What causes personality A to be bullied and not personailty B?
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Re: What would you consider bullying

This is stargate wars right? lol How can you consider anything in this game being a bully?

1. Your given turns to attack and mass people for whatever reason
2. Everyone is given the ability to do the same thing in this game. Some people just have a little deeper pockets than most.

Your urged to fight you have buttons to do your will with your army. Whats next in peoples interpretation of the game? Murder? An unprovoked attack on some wow now we got war crimes lol. I wish people would understand that its a bunch of numbers and letters on a screen if your scared of that you have serious problems.

You can go to purgatory to escape such actions but guess what you get more attack turns to attack people . Get real stop with trying to intertwine real life with a war game. If you wanted to say admin is allowing bullies in the game! But Im sure your not going to say that . You will probably say the game is fun. What is it make a choice
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hehe kiltacular funny.

some people are just more agresive than others i supose
yes its a game was just making analogys on it myself no need too get so upset about it :P

i just find it intresting how some players can get by without the need too attack active accounts.
Others trade there way up the ladder
and some attack weaker players too go up the ladder

yes there all legit game options.
I supose im just seeing how people react too a thread where somone says bully !

those that say it doesnt exist in the game are obviously atracted too attacking active accounts.
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