choose not to send assassins ??

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choose not to send assassins ??

<name of an evil person here> sent:
1 Assassin and 75,256 Super Soldier and 18,594 Raiders


i got level 21 covert and 20 000+ spies.. and i can't see the amount of naq etc he has, so he has got to have like 100k assassins or something minimum...

how can he have all those assassins and still only send ONE when he attacked me ? last time i attacked an active player (and yes, i succeeded) i lost 10k assassins .... how did this person do it? sending just one?

and another question,,

question #2

in the attack he sent a little more than half a million soldiers, i sent about 700 000 defending soldiers, and he had no attack planets, but i had defence planets, still he did more than double the damage i did... is it because he has ascended so many times? (yes, we are the same race, he's a living god and i havent ascended yet)
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

stekspade wrote:<name of an evil person here> sent:
1 Assassin and 75,256 Super Soldier and 18,594 Raiders


i got level 21 covert and 20 000+ spies.. and i can't see the amount of naq etc he has, so he has got to have like 100k assassins or something minimum...

how can he have all those assassins and still only send ONE when he attacked me ? last time i attacked an active player (and yes, i succeeded) i lost 10k assassins .... how did this person do it? sending just one?

and another question,,

question #2

in the attack he sent a little more than half a million soldiers, i sent about 700 000 defending soldiers, and he had no attack planets, but i had defence planets, still he did more than double the damage i did... is it because he has ascended so many times? (yes, we are the same race, he's a living god and i havent ascended yet)


1: anti-covert (ie assasins) are not for covering up your army, you need covert level to do that so he has a lot more spies than you. anti-covert is for killing spies, nothing more. i advise you dont send assasins unless the defence is gone and you want to do some damage

2: living gods get 25%-29% (or is it 25-30...)bonus to all their stats depending on how many ascentions they did. ascended races also have more powerful weapons so 1mil defence weapons of a non-ascended race will be much less powerful that 1mil attack weapons of an ascended race.
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

gooseman the first wrote:i advise you dont send assasins unless the defence is gone and you want to do some damage


1# but my question is "how is it possible not to?" if i attack, all my assassins are dragged into battle wheather they like it or not... i don't follow

gooseman the first wrote:anti-covert (ie assasins) are not for covering up your army, you need covert level to do that so he has a lot more spies than you. anti-covert is for killing spies, nothing more.


2# if this is true then i have had half a million assassins good for nothing for a month now >< i only attack inactive people.. so should i convert all my assassins to undercover agents?

3# just to be sure :) assassins are ONLY used to kill spies (underciver agents in my case)? and anti-covert is only used to kill undercover agents (spies) ?

4# another silly "just to be sure" question :) covert level and spies are used to both hide your info and reveal other players info?

man i'm such a noob... thanks alot for the reply, much appreciated :)
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

stekspade wrote:
1# but my question is "how is it possible not to?" if i attack, all my assassins are dragged into battle wheather they like it or not... i don't follow


untrain them before you attack

2# if this is true then i have had half a million assassins good for nothing for a month now >< i only attack inactive people.. so should i convert all my assassins to undercover agents?

I never had assassins... so I suggest yes, change them to undercover

3# just to be sure :) assassins are ONLY used to kill spies (underciver agents in my case)? and anti-covert is only used to kill undercover agents (spies) ?

euhm: assassins=anti-covert and spies=undercover agents... os YES

4# another silly "just to be sure" question :) covert level and spies are used to both hide your info and reveal other players info?

yes, but also for sabbing

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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

stekspade wrote:1# but my question is "how is it possible not to?" if i attack, all my assassins are dragged into battle wheather they like it or not... i don't follow


It is NOT possible to choose the amount of assasins to send. You will send all your trained assasins when you attack. The one that attacked you only had 1 assasin. The only use of assasins is to kill your enemies spies. Your "regular" spies and covert level are the factor for hiding your stats. So the reason you cant see his/her naq is that he/she have a higher covert action than you. In other words more spies or higher covert level.

stekspade wrote:2# if this is true then i have had half a million assassins good for nothing for a month now >< i only attack inactive people.. so should i convert all my assassins to undercover agents?


No point in having assasins when you are farming. They are only good for killing your enemies spies (make sure to destroy their def first or otherwise your assasins will die). Assasins can also be good for gaining rank when you are hunting glory. I dont know have many undercover agents you have today but i wouldnt recommend you to have more than "necessary". If you get massed you will losses will be huge so dont train more than you can afford to loose.

stekspade wrote:3# just to be sure :) assassins are ONLY used to kill spies (underciver agents in my case)? and anti-covert is only used to kill undercover agents (spies) ?


Look above.

stekspade wrote:4# another silly "just to be sure" question :) covert level and spies are used to both hide your info and reveal other players info?


Thats right.


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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

man, guess who is regretting having a level 23 anti covert and half a mil assassins now... :)

thanks alot for the reply guys! :D
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

When you attack with 0 assassins, it shows 1 in the logs. Technically, he didn't have any AC at all.
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

stekspade wrote:man, guess who is regretting having a level 23 anti covert and half a mil assassins now... :)

thanks alot for the reply guys! :D

when you go to war that level 23 will come in handy for killing spies
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

gooseman the first wrote:
stekspade wrote:man, guess who is regretting having a level 23 anti covert and half a mil assassins now... :)

thanks alot for the reply guys! :D

when you go to war that level 23 will come in handy for killing spies



never have been in war, probably never will, and only been farming inactive people, and ascending in a few days ^^

huge waste for me :)
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

never have been in war, probably never will,


never say never! some players like to start wars with other people for no reason sometimes. so always be prepared for a "pop quiz", cuz someone might take you to school one day.

and no it wont be me, im just saying...never hurts to be prepared.
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

Another tid bit, level 23 Anti-Covert is like level 25 Covert. So Anti-Covert is the equivalent of 2 levels of Covert above.
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

Flamingo wrote:Another tid bit, level 23 Anti-Covert is like level 25 Covert. So Anti-Covert is the equivalent of 2 levels of Covert above.



are you saying that if i have 23 anticovert and untrain all my assassins and make them undercover agents i wont get the same covert as i had anti covert unless my covert is 25?

or in other words

skill of (level 23 anti-covert + 100k assassins) = skill of (level 25 covert + 100k undercover agents)

?

*edit*
slept 3 hours... so sorry if my explanations are a bit "blurry"
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

stekspade wrote:
Flamingo wrote:Another tid bit, level 23 Anti-Covert is like level 25 Covert. So Anti-Covert is the equivalent of 2 levels of Covert above.



are you saying that if i have 23 anticovert and untrain all my assassins and make them undercover agents i wont get the same covert as i had anti covert unless my covert is 25?

or in other words

skill of (level 23 anti-covert + 100k assassins) = skill of (level 25 covert + 100k undercover agents)

?

*edit*
slept 3 hours... so sorry if my explanations are a bit "blurry"


Not sure if it's changed, but that's right.
so 100kcovert @ lvl 25=same power of 100k anti @ lvl 23
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Re: choose not to send assassins ??

k, thx for the info :D
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