Most strange thing ever???

[Legendary Apophis]

WARNING!
Xeno Edit: I second the warning. This is graphic footage, on a personal level, of the 9/11 Terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers.

This video contains shocking parts, nothing against forum rules, but I advertise sensible people NOT to watch it!
[Spacey edit out. talked to apophis about this.]
See the whole vid carefully, do NOT take care of title it has NOTHING to do with the video!!
Yea see it carefully, and also the text parts, that's quite freaking strange and crazy, especially this Edna Cintron who survived...

[The Xeno]

Frankly, I find this disgusting, and no proof whatsoever of a conspiracy.
I'm sorely tempted to remove it, as it strikes me as a snuff film more than anything.

Edna Cintron's survival of the initial crash is a fact, but I find it disgusting that her death would lead to some kind of joy because someone took it as proof of conspiracy. And really, that site is gleeful about her death... no other way to put it. And that really, really, sickens me.


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For the record of course, this is nothing new - Edna Cintron's case has been discussed for several years... and it, like so many other things, boils down to perspective and not proof.

[Legendary Apophis]

I already heard about conspiracy theeories, but this one kinda got my attention, as, as it is said, it looks like there's something strange in it, like the comparating of Madrid building and Twin Towers ones. As in the pretended airplane which crashed in Pentagon, that it looked like the impact was too small for being a plane, but maybe, more likely, a rocket...?
After I heard about the whole conspiracy towards Irak invading and its real reasons (2nd gulf war), I couldn't trust anymore Bush team's side of view, he lied more than once, so we never know who tells the truth in those situations!

As it's has been said countless times, the truth always hurts, that's why lying has been created by humans

[The Xeno]

As it's has been said countless times, the truth always hurts,

Aff - sometimes, terrorists really do commit acts of terrorism.


The biggest issue I have - is I fail to accept the basic presuppositions necessary for the conspiracy claims to seem anything other than wild-eyed paranoia.

You say "Bush has already lied many times", and I say, "Hold up a moment"

You say "so we never know who tells the truth in those situations!" and I say, "... No, I think they're telling the truth when they speak of waging Jihad."

You say "that's quite freaking strange and crazy," and I say: "Well Heck, aren't we supposed to be the result of pure random chance in the first place?"

You say: " especially this Edna Cintron who survived..."
and I say "...Except she did not."



Now, I am more than willing to discuss the details of each and every conspiracy theory that has been brought to light. From the creatures of the fourth dimension, to Men In Black... but I worry we're not going to get very far, no farther than aethiests and believers do, when it comes to reaching a definitive conclusion.

[AncientAnubis]

I have to agree with this guy right here.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... 911_morons

[Ra]

Oh my god, it's pathetic people cook these theories up. Get a damn life...

[Osi]

Agreed, Anyone Who was smart enough to take down the towers, and keep at least 3000 people quite would be the supreme ruler of the planet right now, and not an unlucky man with ratings in a slump. If bush is the grand idiot. how did he pull it off? And why hasn't anyone ecept some jerk wad college student and a few pshycopaths found out about it?

[Legendary Apophis]

Agreed, Anyone Who was smart enough to take down the towers, and keep at least 3000 people quite would be the supreme ruler of the planet right now, and not an unlucky man with ratings in a slump. If bush is the grand idiot. how did he pull it off? And why hasn't anyone ecept some jerk wad college student and a few pshycopaths found out about it?

Because the ones who would be listened by masses are either silenced or simply emprisonned, the theory of the guy whose AA posted link is false! Do you believe US governement enough stupid to kill them or kidnap them? If they don't do it, people will believe it's fake, as there was no moving by conspirators, so no actions is even needed, it's easy, just imagine what people would think and you solve a prob. They are clever, they are good manipulators, see for the Irak war...all the big lies about W of MD, there was not any there, nor any biological one, it was well done propaganda to try to convince others to follow them.
Wait! There was biological weapons, but they came in after war has been declared uh uh!
When there's no reason to do something, best thing is to create one!

As it's has been said countless times, the truth always hurts,

Aff - sometimes, terrorists really do commit acts of terrorism.


The biggest issue I have - is I fail to accept the basic presuppositions necessary for the conspiracy claims to seem anything other than wild-eyed paranoia.

You say "Bush has already lied many times", and I say, "Hold up a moment"

You say "so we never know who tells the truth in those situations!" and I say, "... No, I think they're telling the truth when they speak of waging Jihad."

You say "that's quite freaking strange and crazy," and I say: "Well Heck, aren't we supposed to be the result of pure random chance in the first place?"

You say: " especially this Edna Cintron who survived..."
and I say "...Except she did not."



Now, I am more than willing to discuss the details of each and every conspiracy theory that has been brought to light. From the creatures of the fourth dimension, to Men In Black... but I worry we're not going to get very far, no farther than aethiests and believers do, when it comes to reaching a definitive conclusion.

_Bush lied about weapons in Irak, about the (roflmao!!!) suspicion that Saddam was affiliated to Al Qaeda...which kind of person would believe it hahaha?? There was, so sad people are sooo incult about things out of America, or out of Europe for europeans who believe(d) it...
_Telling the ttruth once DOES NOT mean saying truth all the times..it's like 50/50 in the case, we lie when it's "preferable" to do so.
_God created animals, what's so strange? We can discuss if evolution created us, if the Homo Sapiens were evolved creatures who came from outside, as there are BIG differences with Neanderthal humans, or finally if Adam and Eve relly existed, we'll probably NEVER know..
_She survived the crash, and that alone is really strange, as this crash downed the towers...she didn't survive after as it went boom & down.

Maybe not the US governement who did it...BUT...WHY did there was a SPECIAL AUTORISATION given to the plane containing the LADEN FAMILY going in destination of Saudi Arabia, AFTER the crash, while ALL OTHER planes were FORBIDDEN to fly??
Isn't there something fishy, if the youtube video is fake, there's still Edna surviving to crash AND the Laden plane!

I know most of you love your president, but there's nothing that oblige you to do so...such president who do so much mistake is not a good one!

[AncientAnubis]

Apophis, c'mon, if you were a US citizen you would know that the US government is too bureaucratic and inept to pull of a gigantic fricking conspiracy without more than just a few crackpots with too much time on their hands figuring it out.

You bring up the lies about the WMDs in Iraq. Woop, whaddya know, more than a few crackpots noticed! I laugh every time someone comes up with a conspiracy for 9/11 and think "idiot..." to myself.

[Legendary Apophis]

Apophis, c'mon, if you were a US citizen you would know that the US government is too bureaucratic and inept to pull of a gigantic fricking conspiracy without more than just a few crackpots with too much time on their hands figuring it out.

You bring up the lies about the WMDs in Iraq. Woop, whaddya know, more than a few crackpots noticed! I laugh every time someone comes up with a conspiracy for 9/11 and think "idiot..." to myself.

You realize that it must not be the whole gov, but like in X-files (yep you waited it being brought in isnt it lol) there are always PARTS of goverments who are in conspiracy NEVER WHOLE or EVEN HALF, a PART, NEVER too big as it would be detected.

Btw, what you say about the "plane" on pentagon and laden's plane eh?

[AncientAnubis]

Apophis, c'mon, if you were a US citizen you would know that the US government is too bureaucratic and inept to pull of a gigantic fricking conspiracy without more than just a few crackpots with too much time on their hands figuring it out.

You bring up the lies about the WMDs in Iraq. Woop, whaddya know, more than a few crackpots noticed! I laugh every time someone comes up with a conspiracy for 9/11 and think "idiot..." to myself.

You realize that it must not be the whole gov, but like in X-files (yep you waited it being brought in isnt it lol) there are always PARTS of goverments who are in conspiracy NEVER WHOLE or EVEN HALF, a PART, NEVER too big as it would be detected.

Btw, what you say about the "plane" on pentagon and laden's plane eh?

I say it's all BS. I'm not a Bush fan by any means, but I think people read between the lines....even when there isn't anything between the lines. I didn't know you cared this much about the issue to be honest, but I'll assume it's because you're French.

[Ra]

I guess I have to say it again...Conspiracy Theories are for losers without lives. They are a waste of human brain power, try applying your mind to something that matters rather than "Bush blew it up ".

[~Zekk~]

I guess I have to say it again...Conspiracy Theories are for losers without lives. They are a waste of human brain power, try applying your mind to something that matters rather than "Bush blew it up ".

dont underestimate the bloating power of his beans.





~Zeke~

[Nicholai Brocov]

I think there is no place or home for conspiracy and certainly not here. I didn't see whatever was posted here but I assume it was some short video about 9/11 and how someone got some weird reports that contradict some 'facts' about that day.

Anyways, no matter what you guys choose to believe, know that there is always evidence out there to prove anyone wrong on every level of every point concievable. You can choose to ignore this evidence and play dumb to the facts you've already been forced to learn and accept or you can take it all in and be a better and more knowledgable person about the subject.

Again though such stuff doesn't have a place here.
Otherwise, I'd be posting conspiracy stuff every 48 hours.

[Legendary Apophis]

Apophis, c'mon, if you were a US citizen you would know that the US government is too bureaucratic and inept to pull of a gigantic fricking conspiracy without more than just a few crackpots with too much time on their hands figuring it out.

You bring up the lies about the WMDs in Iraq. Woop, whaddya know, more than a few crackpots noticed! I laugh every time someone comes up with a conspiracy for 9/11 and think "idiot..." to myself.

You realize that it must not be the whole gov, but like in X-files (yep you waited it being brought in isnt it lol) there are always PARTS of goverments who are in conspiracy NEVER WHOLE or EVEN HALF, a PART, NEVER too big as it would be detected.

Btw, what you say about the "plane" on pentagon and laden's plane eh?

I say it's all BS. I'm not a Bush fan by any means, but I think people read between the lines....even when there isn't anything between the lines. I didn't know you cared this much about the issue to be honest, but I'll assume it's because you're French.

I care not because i'm french many dont give a heck here, I care because I know for the Laden plane, I saw the pics of Pentagon as alot saw it, and there was a reconstitution of a plane impact, it wasnt enough big to be that.
Maybe Bush didnt do 9/11 BUT, he spread lies bou Saddam, spread lies bout saddam's WMD (no existing), sent laden family on special access plane to arabia...
Not only a video, just real facts that doesnt come from footage, so the everything is ok is only for blind people, not the "idiots" ones.