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[KMA]Avenger wrote:indeed nothing is certain till its fact but governments dont move large fleets round the globe and conduct expensive war games in preparation for an attack on a sovereign nation without good reason...

as the old saying goes, there's no smoke without fire

urogard wrote:1) How would former eastern block countries, who have decide to join nato, or have applied to nato feel about this attack into geo. by Russia.
Those countries which like to climb up USA ass such as ukraine or maybe poland (though i'm not entirely sure but i suspect it strongly) will officially stand with USA stance. All others follow their own policies.

2) is there some concern that the soviets are using Geo. as a way to warn and control those nations, be it by economic power (natural gas, oil) or military might.
A bit of: "don't make us repeat ourselves" and a bit of "we don't give what you think so we don't have to proove anything for anyone and what we do we do for ourselves and our interests"

3) if left unchecked, is there a historical reflectance for that part of the world that shows the this type of behavior, regardless of the the reason, and it's effect on the climate of freedoms for the people of that area.
"freedom for the people" none of the sides involved in this conflict gives a lousy piece of poo about that.
Besides concerning international law and one country invading others, i think we have much more important precedents.

4) how does your country view the soviets today and how do u personally view them.
There are people who hated them there are people who loved them, the latter are kinda more in numbers.

5) do u believe, that in democracy, when u disagree with the majority, u have the right to enforce your views by leaving, or by force, or by any means of force.
I don't believe in democracy, it's an experiment not just failed but gone terribly bad

papa~smurf wrote: there are others who also have bias, and a willness to listen to "one side"

lithium wrote:if they will strike iran then it ll blow all around Iran its not Iraqi remember it. just imagine another nukes explading somewhere. where are we going after

papa~smurf wrote:demoocracy.....a failed experment ? How so ? U are a first generation in your country to experence it i believe. U have along way to go. Faulted yes, no question in the minds of any American that demoracy has it draw backs, but given the choose between that any the other lteratives, i stick with it.

thanks for answering my questions, there was no wrong answer. It oly shows that as much as "brain washed" americans are, there are others who also have bais, and a willness to listen to "one side"

urogard wrote:

lithium wrote:if they will strike iran then it ll blow all around Iran its not Iraqi remember it. just imagine another nukes explading somewhere. where are we going after

indeed, it goes without saying that a conflict in iran will spill over into other nations and could possibly result in global catastrophe, either global conflict or global financial collapse, which the neocons seem hellbent on making sure 1 or the other (quite possibly both) happens.

at the very least, it would be a bloody mess that will enrage many nations and people worldwide.

urogard wrote:

papa~smurf wrote:demoocracy.....a failed experment ? How so ? U are a first generation in your country to experence it i believe. U have along way to go. Faulted yes, no question in the minds of any American that demoracy has it draw backs, but given the choose between that any the other lteratives, i stick with it.

thanks for answering my questions, there was no wrong answer. It oly shows that as much as "brain washed" americans are, there are others who also have bais, and a willness to listen to "one side"

Since you haven't commented on my example of mexico hitting the USA which would result in an invasion of mexico i'll suspect you fully agree and therefore changed your opinion of russian military presence on georgian soil

Anyways, concerning the first generation, you're wrong but that's allright since there most foreigners who actually dig deep into this don't understand the differences in how czechoslovakia was run compared to other countries like SU, DDR or poland.

Concerning democracy being failed experiment gone horribly bad, i'm not the only one, there are countless others with the same view and the numbers of people who are beginning to realize this are growing fast.

Given the alternatives, there are countless others, but again why should the people who are in power now want to give that power away....
Although seriously i tip my hat to the people who organize the presidential elections in the US. Creating an illusion on such a huge scale that people have a real choice is damn funny. It's sad too but kinda funny.

lithium wrote:let s hope that war dogs like cheney will be kicked out in the next administration of US. we all are suffering the mess of US(israel + UK) is creating in middle est.

LegendaryApophis wrote:If Democracy is that bad as it always leads to chaos or dictatorship...could we know what's good?

Since the martial law is unacceptable either (and then means dictatorship isn't either if we follow the arguments)...
I'm curious.

LegendaryApophis wrote:If Democracy is that bad as it always leads to chaos or dictatorship...could we know what's good?

Since the martial law is unacceptable either (and then means dictatorship isn't either if we follow the arguments)...
I'm curious.

A republic is a state or country that is not led by a hereditary monarch,Niccolò Machiavelli, 1532, The Prince, Chapter 1.

# S: (n) democracy, republic, commonwealth (a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them)
# S: (n) republic (a form of government whose head of state is not a monarch) "the head of state in a republic is usually a president"