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Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:19 am
by Mojo Rising
Jason,
With all due respect, if those of us who worked hard in ascension are not going to get compensated in anyway for the SIGNIFICANT decrease in the cost of levels and fleets, you are going to set some accounts back months if not a year or more. I personally will lose out on over 1.7 Quadrillion (yes you read that right, QUADRILLION) DMU in upgrades over and above what they currently cost. To put it into perspective for you, that is 170 billion LF (143.39 million APP at the development server rates, 5.15 billion APP at the current rates). My last ascension was just over 6 million APP so just a hair under 24x my last ascension at the development server rates, or more accurately, 850x my last ascension at the current market rates. Perhaps you see things differently, but I am seeing me and a lot of other people having their initial ascensions practically negated by this update.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:25 am
by Neimenljivi
Mojo...we have worked hard too and aren't the best...you see, everyone who even tried to play ascension will be in same position, only you (big guys) will lost more reasources, but compared to our planets and reasources avalible, we'd lose the same...The numbers might be bigger but it takes same amount of time that we generate x amount of DMU and you x amount of DMU, altho the numbers are bigger, it's the same for us too...You've lost quadtrilions of naq, we've lost bilions or trilions, but compared to our sizes we damaged for as much as you are...cause you're bigger you invested more reasources. But if I say that I've invested about 5 tril DMU in my account, you'll laugh at it...but 5 tril DMU is the same as 1,7 quadtril DMU for you due to diffrences in our two accounts...same goes for main...
~N
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:02 am
by High Empty
Neimenljivi wrote:Mojo...we have worked hard too and aren't the best...you see, everyone who even tried to play ascension will be in same position, only you (big guys) will lost more reasources, but compared to our planets and reasources avalible, we'd lose the same...The numbers might be bigger but it takes same amount of time that we generate x amount of DMU and you x amount of DMU, altho the numbers are bigger, it's the same for us too...You've lost quadtrilions of naq, we've lost bilions or trilions, but compared to our sizes we damaged for as much as you are...cause you're bigger you invested more reasources. But if I say that I've invested about 5 tril DMU in my account, you'll laugh at it...but 5 tril DMU is the same as 1,7 quadtril DMU for you due to diffrences in our two accounts...same goes for main...
~N
there this little think called rates of return.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:31 am
by PSICOLIX
Mojo Rising wrote:Jason,
With all due respect, if those of us who worked hard in ascension are not going to get compensated in anyway for the SIGNIFICANT decrease in the cost of levels and fleets, you are going to set some accounts back months if not a year or more. I personally will lose out on over 1.7 Quadrillion (yes you read that right, QUADRILLION) DMU in upgrades over and above what they currently cost. To put it into perspective for you, that is 170 billion LF (143.39 million APP at the development server rates, 5.15 billion APP at the current rates). My last ascension was just over 6 million APP so just a hair under 24x my last ascension at the development server rates, or more accurately, 850x my last ascension at the current market rates. Perhaps you see things differently, but I am seeing me and a lot of other people having their initial ascensions practically negated by this update.
and how much DMU you will save from the cheap levels you gonna buy?
i totaly get you point here, BUT worse will be to the players are BIG enouth to not worth ascend, and too small to live with it... (like myself)
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:47 pm
by Robe
Mato wrote:Forum I strongly suggest that you wait another week with this update , so there wont be too many bugs when this is implemented in live server. If we ve waited a few months, we can wait another week.
Mato
I agree with Mato.
I would prefer the known bugs ironed out and full tested before implementation.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:15 pm
by wmd9999
Mojo Rising wrote:I agree with wmd about vacation mode. I think it should result in a gradual loss of all bonuses and blessings, say 10% per week. So the first week you are on vacation, you lose 50% of your bonuses, the second week, 60%, the third week, 70%, the fourth week 80%, the fifth week, 90%, and the sixth week and beyond, 100%. Bonuses come back at the same rate. So if you stayed on vacation for eight weeks, the first two weeks you are off vacation, you are still at 0%, then you move up to 10% the third week, 20% the fourth week, all the way up to 100% bonuses after eight straight weeks of being off vacation mode.
until something like this is done ascension will never be that great and all the updates won't be worth poop. next thing you see in ascension will probably be something like PPT which will kill the server. you need to play to get bonuses! a bonuses is something extra gained not something gained by hiding in vacation
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:18 pm
by blahh
admin is bug hunting now, so ppl help him.
@Big guys ya we know you are gonna loose alot, like nemin says we are gonna loose alot compared to our sizes too, what was that about accept change and embrase it in the ascended server as an intro long long time ago...
Let me help you a bit, the less you calc how much youre gonna "loose" (the" " are because if all loose no1 has lost proportional differences as nemin pointed out are also reflected in sizes so youre still ahead the same as you were be4 update, only after that update, ppl have a chance to slowly march on a parth of maybe catching up with you guys, wich i think was sorta a point of this update... but thats just me)... where was i, ow right, the less you calc how much you loose, the less your heads will hurt, so relax put away those calcs... go for a beer or something, this update wont kill you

Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:11 pm
by Timmy
it would be good for admin to tell us how he's going and whether or not it will be ready for the market reset and if not when he estimates it will be done.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:45 pm
by PSICOLIX
forum, in the Subject multiple Buys in the power UP page, i woude like to say you can use a simple formula to get the Results with a 99% precision.
to BUY 10 levels, the cost will be: example 125 to 135
Total= [cost level 125 + cost level 134]*5/1,1
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:48 pm
by Hells__Angel
PSICOLIX wrote: [cost level 125 + cost level 134]*5/1,1
= PSICOLIX is crazy.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:54 pm
by S T I
Hells__Angel wrote:PSICOLIX wrote: [cost level 125 + cost level 134]*5/1,1
= PSICOLIX is crazy.
maybe so, but his math is good

Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:11 am
by Nostradamus
PSICOLIX wrote:forum, in the Subject multiple Buys in the power UP page, i woude like to say you can use a simple formula to get the Results with a 99% precision.
to BUY 10 levels, the cost will be: example 125 to 135
Total= [cost level 125 + cost level 134]*5/1,1
PSI we can exchange calculators ..... I've used the one you made for DD for a long time ..... because you put a bit more work into it and looked nicer then mine.
I've updated mine with all the formulas current in ascension (haven't bothered with descension ones for obvious reasons) ..... talk to me on msn.
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:14 am
by Neimenljivi
PSICOLIX wrote:forum, in the Subject multiple Buys in the power UP page, i woude like to say you can use a simple formula to get the Results with a 99% precision.
to BUY 10 levels, the cost will be: example 125 to 135
Total= [cost level 125 + cost level 134]*5/1,1
Could u write a maths test instead of me

Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:20 am
by darkness5723
also I would absolutely love to see a multiples button. very annoying to click 200+ times for each stat (made my tendonitis that much worse.. ow)
Re: NEW changes to Ascension (already in beta)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:27 am
by wmd9999
_of War wrote:also I would absolutely love to see a multiples button. very annoying to click 200+ times for each stat (made my tendonitis that much worse.. ow)
agreed