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Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:46 pm
by Lore
supercow wrote: bigger players dont care as much.
you try saying that wil 100+ mill lifers.
And the point still is, limits are there for a reason. Makes you work a bit.
As others have said, 1AT probes are a viable tactic, and if you spy 100 a day, and keep a good farming list, I dont see the problem. I got 15 or 20 pages of 0 def income farms. many keep large amounts of UU out, but I havent been able to raid in almost 2 yrs now.
If your going to ask for unlimited spy attempts, then why not ask for army sizes to never be ???? as well? If your bored then have a war.
Again, just my opinion
As for your speakers, There was like 10 sets at the thrift store for 2$ a set

Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:52 pm
by supercow
well i gave my speakers away because the sound just didnt work on my computer, wasnt the speakers fault. wars are more boring that just about anything in this game, no strategy, not really. all about the army size. so no thanks. i dont get why you guys are saying "o might as well make unlimited attacks, no ???s," being able to spy more than 100 times is far different. you guys are being ridiculous when you say that, whereas my suggestion would make the game more active and really wouldnt break anything gameplaywise unlike what you guys think for some reason.
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:57 pm
by Empy
It just makes the game easier, so what would the next step be? Making it even more easier, by taking away the "???"s, giving unlimited AT's.... What else?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:10 pm
by supercow
ok then, already have unlimited ats, so why not unlimited spying. alliances, people take turns untraining tons of miners into covert and spying, so the alliance as a whole gets unlimited spying, why not make it unlimited for the loners?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:14 pm
by Sarevok
Then there's little point. Just get everyone to transfer all available UU to the one account with the highest level, spy everyone you want to, then send the UU back
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:18 pm
by supercow
as you mentioned, they lose some uu, so there is a down fall for that strategy. the way it is now, alliances working together have unlimited, why not make it unlimited for loners who dont want alliances?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:50 pm
by Sarevok
Cause their social outcasts?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:24 pm
by Brdavs
I`d support it getting removed. Or substantionally raised
Lore wrote:disagree, its to exploitable. an alliance can build 1 mans covert and do ALL the alliance spying.
And what do you think alliances do now? Since day one ppl have been sharing intel reports. Big "exploit" that lol...
Then you tell the guy to start a war if hes bored. say wut? It is in war where this 100 capacity level (together with the low number of succesfull sabs you can do) is most infuriating. You cant really sabb willy around here tbh. 5min and youre out. Then wait for a day to regenerate. How "nice".
And ya`ll are allway complaining how you cant hurt anyone. Un-nerf the sabbing and go wild on attacks, thats one aspect thats been fairly untouchable till now.
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:00 am
by Lore
Sabbing has been increased, once if not twice that I know of.
And I am not against raising it, but I am against complete removal of any limitation.
And I find it rather amusing, you think wars are all about army size LOL.
So your a guy who refuses to war, and wants it easier to sit and far,/raid all day long with no limitations of any kind?
Let me guess, when you get close to any limit you sell out and start over?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:43 am
by supercow
i havent come close to any limit yet. i use it as income because i dont like getting farmed by big guys who know i cant do anything back to them. wars ARE all about army size, and even if they weren't they are still boring. and i didnt say i would raid all day long as i have a job, right now i cant even raid longer than 45 mins max.
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:46 am
by Sarevok
Army size one helps, it's not based of what wins a war. War is won by boring the opposition to death in this game really. And they just buy out of the war
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:18 pm
by Lore
Sarevok wrote:Army size one helps, it's not based of what wins a war. War is won by boring the opposition to death in this game really. And they just buy out of the war
Thats true
point I was trying to make that no one seemed to get,,,,,, The smaller guy ALWAYS has the advantage. He can farm more from the big guy and can do more damage to the big guy, he can grow faster and more consistantly, if the big guy is over the limit then the little guy has MASSIVE advantages as he can simple rebuy any losses he incurs and will actually grow faster in a war, where someone over the limit has to accept the losses with NO way of compensating for them.
So you burn 100 covert turns, and then get bored out of your mind in 45 minutes?
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:26 pm
by shooty08
Lore wrote:disagree, its to exploitable. an alliance can build 1 mans covert and do ALL the alliance spying.
Isn't that a point of making a team/alliance? one man/group specializes in one area, others specialize in other areas.
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:30 pm
by Lore
shooty08 wrote:Lore wrote:disagree, its to exploitable. an alliance can build 1 mans covert and do ALL the alliance spying.
Isn't that a point of making a team/alliance? one man/group specializes in one area, others specialize in other areas.
Everyone realises hes asking for COMPLETE removal of any limitaion right?
As it is now, Yes alliances can build one guy to specialize, he still only has 100 covert turns before he is useless,,,, its called limitation.
Re: get rid of covert capacity
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:31 pm
by shooty08
I agree, there's no point in removing the limit.