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Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:41 am
by J-ronimo
How does this get us closer to the problem at hand, if i have said the same things like before, just different words?

You think i am making everything up. What do i have from this?

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:07 am
by Zeratul
from our impression, to a certain degree both are correct here...

yes, a report does not in itself ensure warning is issued (that only depends on forum rules), but mods do take reports into account when modding...

reports do help mods, though...

remember though, not all punishments are visible...

verbal warnings are often only sent in PM, which is not visible... or added to user notes in some manner...

if you feel that something has not been dealt with properly, try PMing a mod of that section, or an GM... but please, have patience... we forum staff are not omnipresent...

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:47 am
by deni
J-ronimo wrote:How does this get us closer to the problem at hand, if i have said the same things like before, just different words?

You think i am making everything up. What do i have from this?


I know it is a lot easier to make claims instead of providing proof/details backing up that claim.

You do not achieve anything by acting this way, as your claims do seem hollow and are seen as antagonizing.

If you want to be constructive and help the forum by pointing out an issue that you think as problematic, you should be a bit more specific.

So I ask you again to please provide details so we can discuss them in a calm manner without antagonizing.

Thank you.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:58 am
by J-ronimo
I have seen how it easy is to make claims, too many times. ;)

So, what do i achieve, if i bring you screen shots?
What makes the difference to you...

Pointing out an issue at hand, it is seen on these 2 pages in your replies towards me. Interesting to see that some people know what i am talking about, except you. What are the odds.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:22 am
by Hitchkok
Tetrismonkey wrote:
~Thamuz~ wrote:
Eärendil wrote:If you want to talk about a mod being biased take it elsewhere, I won't have it here.

Where else is there to take it then if not the Forum Specific Issues/Requests/Bugs (NOT GAME ISSUES) » Forum & Mod Feedback :? ~T~



He means make a new topic...

This topic is about one issue, make another topic about the other one...


the one issue this topic is about IS biased modding.
and if someone will make a new thread, deni will just come out with her regular: "this isn't backed up, bring specifics, blah blah, blah blah..."
so J-ronimo is bringing specifics.

and the bickering about reports is just petty.
if a person reports a post that broke the rules, the offender is (rather, should be) warned. whether you call this "helping mods", "getting someone warned", or "pink polkadot skipping elephent", is i-material.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:11 am
by deni
J-ronimo wrote:I have seen how it easy is to make claims, too many times. ;)

So, what do i achieve, if i bring you screen shots?
What makes the difference to you...

Pointing out an issue at hand, it is seen on these 2 pages in your replies towards me. Interesting to see that some people know what i am talking about, except you. What are the odds.


I do not know what you will achieve if you post up details about your claims.

I do know though what you will achieve if you do not back up your claims. NOTHING.

So, I ask you again. Can you please explain what the specific issue was.

I cannot read minds yet nor do I think that speculating about what the issue might be is productive.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:15 am
by deni
Hitchkok wrote:
Tetrismonkey wrote:
~Thamuz~ wrote:
Eärendil wrote:If you want to talk about a mod being biased take it elsewhere, I won't have it here.

Where else is there to take it then if not the Forum Specific Issues/Requests/Bugs (NOT GAME ISSUES) » Forum & Mod Feedback :? ~T~



He means make a new topic...

This topic is about one issue, make another topic about the other one...


the one issue this topic is about IS biased modding.
and if someone will make a new thread, deni will just come out with her regular: "this isn't backed up, bring specifics, blah blah, blah blah..."
so J-ronimo is bringing specifics.

and the bickering about reports is just petty.
if a person reports a post that broke the rules, the offender is (rather, should be) warned. whether you call this "helping mods", "getting someone warned", or "pink polkadot skipping elephent", is i-material.



As you do see the specifics I am apparently blind to, can you please point me to the reported post that supposedly contains a RL insult.

Knowing which post it was, will help me track down
1) if a report was made
2) if the post really contained a RL insult
3) if the report was closed
4) if the user got a warning from another mod for the same post.


Thank you.

And on a side note: This topic (as started by Norbe) was about the question if verbal warnings are taken into consideration when giving out official board warnings.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:44 am
by J-ronimo
deni wrote:I cannot read minds yet nor do I think that speculating about what the issue might be is productive.


Then i suggest you to learn form posts in first place. You supposed to be GM or something.

deni wrote:And on a side note: This topic (as started by Norbe) was about the question if verbal warnings are taken into consideration when giving out official board warnings.


And you were the one who managed to derail it based on my simple post.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:22 pm
by deni
J-ronimo wrote:
deni wrote:I cannot read minds yet nor do I think that speculating about what the issue might be is productive.


Then i suggest you to learn form posts in first place. You supposed to be GM or something.

deni wrote:And on a side note: This topic (as started by Norbe) was about the question if verbal warnings are taken into consideration when giving out official board warnings.


And you were the one who managed to derail it based on my simple post.


I see that you are still refusing to back up your claim or to provide any specifics.

This leaves the impression, that you cannot back it up.

So I will ask you again to tell us which post supposedly containing a RL insult was reported.

As you claim that everyone but me can tell which post it was, I would be thankful if ANYONE could point it out to me.

Thank you.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:24 pm
by J-ronimo
Feeling the same arrogance you are giving to me?
And this is a serious question.

On this note, did you warn REK for off-topic post?

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:41 pm
by deni
J-ronimo wrote:Feeling the same arrogance you are giving to me?
And this is a serious question.

On this note, did you warn REK for off-topic post?


Whether REK was warned or not, is not your business and concerns REK only.

But I ask you again. Please provide details about the claim you made earlier.

If you do, we can discuss things.

If you refuse to, then it is getting rather obvious that you are posting here with the solely intention to flame and antagonize.

Re: Taking it to the correct section for you Deni.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:45 pm
by deni
Earendil wrote:should i just lock this?


Please leave the topic open, Earendil.

I am still waiting for J-Ronimo to back up his claim.

After all, the last thing we want as mods, is to close topics where it us accused of bias, don't we?

Re: Deni vs J-Ronimo (change the title as you see fit)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:05 pm
by Empy
Posts split... maybe took a bit too many here but... I did my best

Let the fight continue!

~Empy

Re: Deni vs J-Ronimo (change the title as you see fit)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:52 pm
by J-ronimo
Here ya go (read bottom up):
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Did you or did you not warn REK on current events, report that i have made an hour or two ago?

Re: Deni vs J-Ronimo (change the title as you see fit)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:12 pm
by J-ronimo
Sorry but i don't buy this.

I have got you what you all wanted to see. It ended in warning REK at that time.

So, if you can't answer simple question for current situation, how can i prove mod is being biased, if you give such answers?
As it was at case i have presented, as it is too obvious personal insult, and it was rejected before pm's...