WindY wrote:you have obviously put over weeks and weeks into this idea and i think its good but i barely understood any of it like alliances and stuf fthat was too confusing for my head but i like the covert def and atk thing which i sorta understood but i dont think admin has enough time to do all that unless we go back in time lol which no 1 wants
That's why I'll volunteer to help code
Obviously I don't expect upload ability, but just email me (mailto:hec25@fairhurst.com) telling about when to get online... I can use AIM or PMs... meh, it'll work!
As for the new game...
It would be totally awesome, we could even have controllability and strategy be like... crazy!
The only problem: We'd have to wait even longer for it to come out
Okay, glad I got the rewards cleared up... I'm guessing asgard would have stronger def techs to steal, tauri have stronger at techs to steal, and so on?
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Wolf359 wrote:Erm, looks very similar to the other one you posted recently, which I now can't find - was it removed?
Obviously a lot of work has gone into this - but........
rather than it being implemented into Main (which would radically change the game) would this not be better served being used in a new version of the game? 'TGW Advanced' or something?
There are some good ideas - but I think to implement them all into the game would change it too much - and make it too big of a change for a lot of people. But I would not like to see these ideas simply brushed aside so starting a new game from scratch may be the answer.
(I read through it once (quickly) as it seemed to be almost the same as your other thread (still can't find it) and it is a bit difficult to understand in places - it may be because of the length of it (frankly, I got bored less than half way through) - posts (especially suggestions) are better off in small bursts - so it may have been more beneficial if you had split this up into a number of smaller threads - as they are more easily read, and people are more willing to read shorter posts (I see a post as big as this and I instantly lose the will to live))
the alliance revramp is the part of grabbed for the alliance thing the tech thing is all 100% made up for the first time.
First the idea is like this everybody gains technology points, tech points are generated each turn and how much u generate determined on many 3 things.
Offence Defense Covert
So basically there are 3 types of tech points (Offense,Defense,Covert)
each of ur stats will generate the tech points to each catorgory, and once u have enough tech points u can spend them on a certain technology, but the technology MUST be revealed first before u can start upgrading that tech. To reveal a tech u must go and either attack,raid,recon a target in ur attack logs it will say something like this....
But revealing the technology is a chance thing, attacking ppl with no defence and ppl who are lower in rank than u yields a very small chance but attackng someone around your size will yeild a higher chance of obtaining that technology.
One of your Battle Cammanders have captured some technology from your enemy, and your Battle Cammander believes it will be beneficial to incorprate this into our realm.(Asgard Attack Technology Stolen)
Once you have that msg you can upgrade that technology if you have enough Offensive techgology Tech Points. This aplies for everything else. Defensive, Offensive technology are captured in attacks and defence.
Covert tech are only taken in sabs,recons.
Once u grab that specific races upgrade u can never get again and u will never grab the same technology twice. SEE ALL TECHOLOGY ROUTE BELOW. Once u have grabbed a certain tech u then have to follow it through and each upgrade gives u a certain percent in whatever catagory(offense,defence,covert). Once u have raeched the last LV u cant go any higher but u can still spend your resouces to enhance the upgrade even more with each enhancement to a lv4 technology it wil require huge amounts of tech points.
All non ascneded accounts can get tech but u have a choice....ascneded and these tech go bye bye for u forever once u are ascended u can never get these techs again.
Small things considered 1. Non Asenceded accounts get tech, once u ascneded you lose the techs all of it
2. Specific Techs can not be given away u can only get them.
3. Same tech will never apear twice only once. So u will never get 2 asgard offensive techs for example.
4. Revealing the technology is random and there are factors that increase the chances of you revealing. Attacking ppl with zero defence yeilds 0% chance of revealing the technology, also sabbing/recon ppl with zero covert is the same thing.
5. Tech point cost is dependent on Total Army/Stats/UP
6. Generation of tech points(Offence/Defense/Covert) is dependent on your stats for example....more Defense = More Defense tech points generated.
7. If u grab a Covert tech u need Covert Tech points to reseach it and goes for all other techs like this.
8. See Alliance Revramp there is a tech alliance this alliance it works just like a CO and Officer relationship if one person gets lots of tech points some points are donated to ther other player vise versa. this only works oif it gets implemented
9. I dont no if i should make another 3 more levels....This idea will take shell accounts technology and incorperate them into non ascended accounts...but i dont have another 3 months lol
10. levels....Lv1 is ur base thats ur regualr techs of what u have now let says u get all the Lv2 techs for covert,def,off you get a title for ur name.
but what happens if u have one Lv4 tech and 2 LV2 techs ur title name will show as a LV2 title name becuase title name will take the lowest tech u obtained since the LV2 is already obtained in LV4 ur base will be LV2.
Title Names
Lv1 is you base upgrades,(mercenary tech,defense,offense,race unique etc) techs
Lv5 is once u have all your Level 4 base there is a option to further increase that tech even higher but this reuires huge amounts of tech points for each upgrade. once u have increase each catogory(covert,def,off) u will get this tilte.
Title Names
Lv1. Technician
Lv2. Technician of Arrival
Lv3. Engineer of War
Lv4. Master of Comprehension
Lv5. GrandMaster of Philosophy
Stealing Tech Points
Stealing tech points is allowed, Stealing how much is like raid combined with raiding, so in a raid u also take some of there tech take whihc type of tech points is totaly random.
THE IDEA Each Race Specific tech In this part of the thread are each races tech routes all permatuations have been thoiught up and the names omg the names i had to come up with. If i really wanted to i could add another 3 lvs for the ascneded accounts shell but that way too long i suppose.
Right Here are the names of the technology, JUST NAMES...the percenatges of each bonus is yet to be decided. and u dont have to read this part of the idea.
Replicators 1. Offence Technology Lv:2 Replicators + Tuari = Infested Allied MotherShip Support Fleet
Replicators + Goauld= Advanced Infested Replicator Hatak Attack Force
Replicators + Asgard= Single AI Controlled The Oniell BattleCruiser
Lv:3 Replicators + Tuari + Gouald= Battle AI controlled Death Gliders + X-302
Replicators + Tuari + Asgard= AI controlled X-302 + Infested The Daniel Jackson
@ knightValor let says a asgard gets all his defensive technology for a asgard he will be unbreakabale whihc isnt kinda unfair, so whatever your races specializes in thats where the tech bonuses will not help much...it still helps but not enough.
so a tuair getting m,ore offense tech wont help much but if tauri gets all his defensive tech it would help him alot...same with replis spy tech levels wont do much becuase there alraedy master of covert
It sounds good I read bits and peaces the pictures help(I like visual things). Um wow I feel like I need to write something long to compete with it....Now dont get me wrong its great but its such a massive update I mean this would change the entire concept of the game....You go from trying to get a massive UP to trying to get the best Tech fast....Not Stabel Players(players who are willing to leave if this game does not turn around and start going up)Could leave...then again it might make more players have a shorter goal than to make a goal "get to 100k UP" instead it would make people strive for a more easier goal to reach making those people happy(Husband: YES I REACHED MY GOAL HONEY.....Wife: THATS GREAT NOW GET TO BED ITS 2:00am)So in the long term I think its for the better most people would probably resent it at first then they would just kind of go with the flow......This is as far as I can think right now my brain is moosh.....
thunder wrote:why cant the acended acounts get them?
this idea has nothing to do with ascnesion....i said it in my first or secound post...and its not limited to ppl who has GR points....everybody can get them
so everybody has a fair chance of getting them.
if u ascned u will lose the tech bonuses and while these tech bonuses will never exceed the ascnesion bonus.
EDIT
yes i no the idea is a huge update if it was ever implemented lets not talk about that lets talk about the concept
Antec wrote:... most people would probably resent it at first then they would just kind of go with the flow......This is as far as I can think right now my brain is moosh.....
WTH? (what the frizzle frazzle) Most people like this idea... Read the posts
Or at least so far.
As for it being a massive update, I think that's all for the better. Something to get people into the game again... Especially the alliance wars deal.
OK the alliances wars thingy great idea. but if the tech is going to be like that then ascended acounts have to get a 25% bonus instead of a 5% on first ascention, or else it will not make ascention worth it. and that will complicate a lot of things going in to the game at this time. over all creative idea, and good job. i like the alliances wars thingy a lot.
